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Junior football, what is the future?


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On 19/12/2019 at 13:39, FairWeatherFan said:

This has been the North Region's plan all along. Sit it out, be the only juniors left. Then pocket 4-5 grand each and join up to the pyramid anyway 😁

Bridge of Don needs some new Fox Traps, tbf.

On 19/12/2019 at 22:44, parsforlife said:

Re the misinformation campaign, does the existence of the community clubs change things here? They will presumably be in attendance at meetings, Will the try(or even have the chance) to dispel the myths?

 

Smart thing to do with these clubs is to insert a by-law into EOS constitution that suggests that these clubs cannot be promoted from the basement tier. Second Division North or what ever it will be.

3 hours ago, AlanCamelonfan said:

The problem for the west it probably wont get as big a bounce as the east have got as nothing will really change. Our crowds are up about 50%. The east clubs have had a resurgence like glenrothes might come so easily in the west as it's the same.teams still looks like will be sjfa 

This. A good example would be this Season's Scottish Cup, it's allowed Kelty, Bonnyrigg and Linlithgow all live TV matches due to their SFA Licenses and automatic cup entry.
It's also seen the EOS league almost die out with 10 clubs a few years ago to becoming a league struggling to decide whether their going to have 3 or 4 full leagues next season.

Although it will be a slow progress, things such as full fixtures cards and Auto-cup qualification will help clubs. It will also see sides like Pollok and Talbot reach their appropriate level and create new rivalries - BSC Glasgow (if they move to Lesser Hampden) against Pollok could be a LL clash in a few years time.

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The problem for the west it probably wont get as big a bounce as the east have got as nothing will really change. Our crowds are up about 50%. The east clubs have had a resurgence like glenrothes might come so easily in the west as it's the same.teams still looks like will be sjfa 
As people point out, nothing much will change short term for 95% of clubs in the west when they move into senior football.

If you suggest that you integrate the top half of Superleague into a LL West as a first step with BSC, Colts, Edusport Braves, Gretna and Dalbeattie then that is where you might meet resistance.
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23 hours ago, Exvale said:

The future is brilliant take my team Darvel Juniors crowds increasing every week. A bus to every away game and a special appearance by santa to give the kids presents "NOW THAT'S THE FUTURE" and it's growing every week

Not as bright for most of the other 62 sides though.

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8 minutes ago, nicotina said:

by the way does BSC stand  for bloody stupid c***s

 

I've criticised them enough times (*cough Maryhill*) but for the love of f**k, they're doing a heck of a lot better than most non-league clubs and have a fantastic multi-sport youth setup.

What about Pollok? A guid club definitely, but at risk of falling behind?

Oh, and Stuart Davidson is a cracking guy, BTW.

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1 minute ago, nicotina said:

it helps if u don't have to put money into a ground for upkeep etc

lok are flawed in many ways, toilet etc but at least we own our own ground and have an identity with an area

 

I must assume they'll need to rent Alloa?

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how many grounds have bsc used over their short existence.

they have no affinity with anywhere thus no fanbase

if they move again (lesser hampden ) do u honestly think any locals will watch them ?

i/m using them as an example.   its the same with other sides ie rossvale in govan

no ground should equal no entry into the so called higher echelons of scottish senior football imo

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7 minutes ago, nicotina said:

how many grounds have bsc used over their short existence.

they have no affinity with anywhere thus no fanbase

if they move again (lesser hampden ) do u honestly think any locals will watch them ?

i/m using them as an example.   its the same with other sides ie rossvale in govan

no ground should equal no entry into the so called higher echelons of scottish senior football imo

 

Two.

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how many grounds have bsc used over their short existence.
they have no affinity with anywhere thus no fanbase
if they move again (lesser hampden ) do u honestly think any locals will watch them ?

no ground should equal no entry into the so called higher echelons of scottish senior football imo

2 grounds.

Lesser would be better for them but unless they get to broomhill then they’ll find it difficult to attract significant support, they didn’t get much at Mary hill either, not that it’s harming them any, they’re doing quite well for themselves.

If we kick out everyone without a ground they own outright then there would be barly any clubs left in the spfl.
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16 minutes ago, nicotina said:

how many grounds have bsc used over their short existence.

they have no affinity with anywhere thus no fanbase

if they move again (lesser hampden ) do u honestly think any locals will watch them ?

i/m using them as an example.   its the same with other sides ie rossvale in govan

no ground should equal no entry into the so called higher echelons of scottish senior football imo

This argument is pointless. Yes, I think BSC are taking the piss by playing in Alloa. But they certainly aren't taking the piss by groundsharing.

It makes total sense for clubs to share or lease a ground. There's limited grounds and upkeep is expensive. Getting more use out of them outwith than every other Saturday makes sense.

You'll find a significant number of clubs don't own their ground, but lease them from the local council etc. There's several in the top divisions in the West.

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15 minutes ago, nicotina said:

how many grounds have bsc used over their short existence.

they have no affinity with anywhere thus no fanbase...

Much the same scenario as Rossvale then, so not something you need to be in the Lowland League to encounter. BSC must be doing something right. Knocked out East Fife from the Scottish Cup and beat East Stirling away today who are alleged to be spending over 200k on players this season. 

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This argument is pointless. Yes, I think BSC are taking the piss by playing in Alloa. But they certainly aren't taking the piss by groundsharing.
It makes total sense for clubs to share or lease a ground. There's limited grounds and upkeep is expensive. Getting more use out of them outwith than every other Saturday makes sense.
You'll find a significant number of clubs don't own their ground, but lease them from the local council etc. There's several in the top divisions in the West.
Leasing a ground still means you have to pay for it's upkeep. The owner (ie probably the Council) won't do that for you.
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