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Junior football, what is the future?


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41 minutes ago, ShrimpLok said:

How about the EOSFL and ERJFA jointly propose this solution for the HL/LL split:

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Clubs whose home ground is located in the local authorities of Angus and Dundee City  shall be eligible for both the Highland League and the Lowland League.


 That would allow some flexibility for those such as Montrose Roselea who see their future in the north while allowing Breadalbane and the ERJFA Tayside teams to stay in LL area if that is what they prefer. 

It leads to an uneven split of population but if it is the only way to get all clubs into a single unified structure then in my view it would be a sacrifice worth making. 

Why on earth should the current and entirely sensible dividing line agreed by every level within the Scottish club pyramid be thrown out of the window now to placate the rump of a failing Junior league? It's not the only way to get clubs in a unified structure at all: we can simply just wait for more clubs to jump ship to the EoS league and let the last holdouts realise that the game's a bogey for them. 

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Just now, Vollyman said:


At least he is being constructive by putting forward a feasible proposition.The PWG has been in operation for 18 years and has been devoid of ideas which is scandalous.

But whats being said from what I am reading is 4 teams relegated form EOS Prem for 4 ERJFA teams keeping the balance of 16, what happens to the Conference winners in Tier 7 are they to forego their right to progress and promotion?  it surely can only be 2 teams from ERJFA and 2 promotions as anything over 4 for relegation is bordering on extreme and do the clubs at the bottom of EOS prem get a say?

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1 hour ago, craigkillie said:

Lowland League clubs are guaranteed a spot in Round 1 of the Scottish Cup, which has a large benefit attached in the shape of prize money.

Yip, £4k this season. Mind you I think it was £3k for each prelim round so us being shite will still have its advantages next year :whistle

16 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

Scottish Cup entry for a start

See above

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6 minutes ago, Kemlin Dan said:

But whats being said from what I am reading is 4 teams relegated form EOS Prem for 4 ERJFA teams keeping the balance of 16, what happens to the Conference winners in Tier 7 are they to forego their right to progress and promotion?  it surely can only be 2 teams from ERJFA and 2 promotions as anything over 4 for relegation is bordering on extreme and do the clubs at the bottom of EOS prem get a say?

erm.......there hasn't even been a meeting yet, it might no even happen!  it's just people putting up suggestions, nothing more. Chill out.

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3 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

erm.......there hasn't even been a meeting yet, it might no even happen!  it's just people putting up suggestions, nothing more. Chill out.

erm there was me thinking credible ideas that can progress, but seems its got massive holes in it already.

Nice to look at but shouldn't we be keeping to sensible options instead of fantasy league.

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1 minute ago, Kemlin Dan said:

erm there was me thinking credible ideas that can progress, but seems its got massive holes in it already.

Nice to look at but shouldn't we be keeping to sensible options instead of fantasy league.

Only option for me is the 17 south of the tay clubs join the t7 conferences. Erjsfa look after the 19 Tay clubs for whatever they are going to do

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1 hour ago, AlanCamelonfan said:

We know where it is. Start sending the fuckers to coldstream on a Tuesday night and they will soon f**k off

if you cant take it mate don't give IT. there are no Tayside teams going north. end of.

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5 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said:

Only option for me is the 17 south of the tay clubs join the t7 conferences. Erjsfa look after the 19 Tay clubs for whatever they are going to do

I suppose one path they could go down *if* the boundary can be changes is that they run Tayside and feed into... LL? Surely not? EoSL Premier would be a more realistic to place the bulk of the level of club we're talking about?

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A big if, but IF there was a meeting and the EOS said they'd accept Tayside clubs and run their leagues in a mutually agreeable format similar to the one proposed (with at least one Superleague team in tier 6) - couldn't all 36 ERSJFA clubs make the move over so that it was in place for next season? Or would that take too much time to sort and require EGMs.

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3 minutes ago, Kemlin Dan said:

erm there was me thinking credible ideas that can progress, but seems its got massive holes in it already.

Nice to look at but shouldn't we be keeping to sensible options instead of fantasy league.

What's fantasy about it and where are the massive holes?  it's only an illustration of what the leagues could look like. They could be completely different, we don't know.

Tayside clubs may or may not be able to be involved in this, we don't know, but this set-up is on the basis of they can.  If they can't then the likelihood is the ERJFA wont play ball and it's all immaterial anyway.

If it's a goer there's 101 different ways they could integrate the leagues.

Jeezo :rolleyes:

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4 minutes ago, humphrey said:

if you cant take it mate don't give IT. there are no Tayside teams going north. end of.

Given you're supposed to be involved with an Amateur club from Perthshire, how would you know? are you joining the ERJFA next season?

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But whats being said from what I am reading is 4 teams relegated form EOS Prem for 4 ERJFA teams keeping the balance of 16, what happens to the Conference winners in Tier 7 are they to forego their right to progress and promotion?  it surely can only be 2 teams from ERJFA and 2 promotions as anything over 4 for relegation is bordering on extreme and do the clubs at the bottom of EOS prem get a say?

It is only a proposal and is a start to meaningful discussion to resolve the situation.
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7 minutes ago, Burnie_man said:

Given you're supposed to be involved with an Amateur club from Perthshire, how would you know? are you joining the ERJFA next season?

im already in it. note in the new structure now being discussed the Tayside teams are not now going north. funny how a line can move when it suits

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1 minute ago, Burnie_man said:

What's fantasy about it and where are the massive holes?  it's only an illustration of what the leagues could look like. They could be completely different, we don't know.

Tayside clubs may or may not be able to be involved in this, we don't know, but this set-up is on the basis of they can.  If they can't then the likelihood is the ERJFA wont play ball and it's all immaterial anyway.

If it's a goer there's 101 different ways they could integrate the leagues.

Jeezo :rolleyes:

Lets make the illustration Blackburn at Tier 8 then,4 ERJFA cannot possibly come over,it all needs voted in  for that number of relegation spots and also what happens to Conference winners would take it to 6 relegation places, it also comes down to why should ERJFA get 4 teams and Tier 7 get 2 spots 1 from each Conference. If your a Tier 7 team and watch 2 or 4 ERJFA teams jump into Tier 6 there is always that side of things as well,why would any existing EOS team at Tier 7 forego their place in Tier 6.

The sooner we go back to realizing ERJFA don't sit in Tier 6 on any parallel system, the sooner all ERJFA come in at Tier 7 and work their way up.

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26 minutes ago, Kemlin Dan said:

Lets make the illustration Blackburn at Tier 8 then,4 ERJFA cannot possibly come over,it all needs voted in  for that number of relegation spots and also what happens to Conference winners would take it to 6 relegation places, it also comes down to why should ERJFA get 4 teams and Tier 7 get 2 spots 1 from each Conference. If your a Tier 7 team and watch 2 or 4 ERJFA teams jump into Tier 6 there is always that side of things as well,why would any existing EOS team at Tier 7 forego their place in Tier 6.

The sooner we go back to realizing ERJFA don't sit in Tier 6 on any parallel system, the sooner all ERJFA come in at Tier 7 and work their way up.

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