Pyramidic Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kilbowie Benches said: The disbenefits disappear when the ERJFA is in the pyramid. In fact they will have the benefit of still being in the biggest non league cup competition. Even if the ERJFA gain access to the Pyramid there remain in my view many disbenefits for West Lothian and Fife clubs, including: - unbalanced nature of the Super League - geographical spread of clubs north of the Tay - cost of travel to Tayside - poor attendances - lack of local interest - low income generation - weak sponsorship opportunities - continued migration of players to EoSL - duplication of product - feeling of being left behind Many of these points are of course interrelated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 But shouldnt be because the Highland League is given equal standing to the LL despite having an incredibly smaller proportion of the population, adding to that imbalance by allowing Tayside clubs in the LL would be madness. Why can’t you see that? Could essentially have a league representing 80% Scotlands population and 1 representing 20%?Counter argument to this is move the line to the forth or even south of Lothian. Then they all become hl feeders in a 50/50 population split. That would be unpopular. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Even if the ERJFA gain access to the Pyramid there remain in my view many disbenefits for West Lothian and Fife clubs, including: - unbalanced nature of the Super League - geographical spread of clubs north of the Tay - cost of travel to Tayside - poor attendances - lack of local interest - low income generation - weak sponsorship opportunities - continued migration of players to EoSL - duplication of product - feeling of being left behind Many of these points are of course interrelated.Id imagine getting refs etc would be a mess with two leagues in same area 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veedub Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Your absolutely green with it. Don't want to mirror my club.......fucking spanner. Billy big baws who thinks Clydebank are going to glide back into the seniors when your an average Junior side. Well said [emoji1360] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilbowie Benches Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Pyramidic said: Even if the ERJFA gain access to the Pyramid there remain in my view many disbenefits for West Lothian and Fife clubs, including: - unbalanced nature of the Super League - geographical spread of clubs north of the Tay - cost of travel to Tayside - poor attendances - lack of local interest - low income generation - weak sponsorship opportunities - continued migration of players to EoSL - duplication of product - feeling of being left behind Many of these points are of course interrelated. If clubs feel that way then they can join the EoSL simples. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 37 minutes ago, Pyramidic said: The chap from Kelty Hearts last year did a very useful appraisal of the advantages of leaving the ERJFA and joining the EoSL. Perhaps now would be a good time to outline the current benefits for West Lothian and Fife clubs (and a few from Angus maybe) leaving the ERJFA for the EoSL next season. At the same time I think it would be helpful if Kilbowie Benches outlines the disbenefits. This process might contribute in a small way to the difficult decision that some ERJFA clubs now face. Off the top of my head; Access to SFA Licencing Access to the Scottish Cup by winning Alex Jack Cup (only for non-Licenced clubs) and a play-off with the SoS winners. Camelon won it this year Access to Scottish Cup by winning EoS (no Licence required) Access to Lowland League play-offs Access to the Lowland U20 Development League (effectively a reserve side, players also considered part of senior squad) Season long fixture lists No player re-instatement rules Assistant referees for the majority of games Access to larger grants from the Scottish Football Partnership Grants from the EoS towards improvements for Licence Contributions to bus hire for Southern Counties Cup away games No cup competition disrupts the season for weeks on end Use of the devils lanterns encouraged A more engaged and enlightened Board running the league and cups. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, superbigal said: 39 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: But shouldnt be because the Highland League is given equal standing to the LL despite having an incredibly smaller proportion of the population, adding to that imbalance by allowing Tayside clubs in the LL would be madness. Why can’t you see that? Could essentially have a league representing 80% Scotlands population and 1 representing 20%? Counter argument to this is move the line to the forth or even south of Lothian. Then they all become hl feeders in a 50/50 population split. That would be unpopular. This is why I said before that the juniors north/east/west split could work. That would become roughly 20/40/40 which is acceptable imo and easier to manage with Scottish geography. Will the SPFL agree to 3 feeders to SPFL2 though? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilbowie Benches Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Burnie_man said: Off the top of my head; Access to SFA Licencing Access to the Scottish Cup by winning Alex Jack Cup (only for non-Licenced clubs) and a play-off with the SoS winners. Camelon won it this year Access to Scottish Cup by winning EoS (no Licence required) Access to Lowland League play-offs Access to the Lowland U20 Development League (effectively a reserve side, players also considered part of senior squad) Season long fixture lists No player re-instatement rules Assistant referees for the majority of games Access to larger grants from the Scottish Football Partnership Grants from the EoS towards improvements for Licence Contributions to bus hire for Southern Counties Cup away games No cup competition disrupts the season for weeks on end Use of the devils lanterns encouraged A more engaged and enlightened Board running the league and cups. Most,except diddy cups will be available to Junior clubs next season in the pyramid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che Dail Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Marten said: This is why I said before that the juniors north/east/west split could work. That would become roughly 20/40/40 which is acceptable imo and easier to manage with Scottish geography. Will the SPFL agree to 3 feeders to SPFL2 though? Another way to look at it is 3 feeders: Highland / Mid / Lowland. Fed by the 6six SFA regions: North = HL Central + East = ML West + S.West + S.East = LL Sorted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kilbowie Benches said: Most,except diddy cups will be available to Junior clubs next season in the pyramid. But your club is comitted to moving to the EoS - I hope you enjoy the journey. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, drs said: But your club is comitted to moving to the EoS - I hope you enjoy the journey. Hopefully they end up in our Conference, last time we played them we humped them at Yoker in the Scottish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilbowie Benches Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: Hopefully they end up in our Conference, last time we played them we humped them at Yoker in the Scottish We’ve committed to nothing but believe what you like,that’s what you do on here. As for Blackburn I’d wager any money you want that we’d take them apart no problem now as opposed to our 1st season back when we started with no players and not even a set of strips 15 years ago! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Just now, Kilbowie Benches said: We’ve committed to nothing but believe what you like,that’s what you do on here. As for Blackburn I’d wager any money you want that we’d take them apart no problem now as opposed to our 1st season back when we started with no players and not even a set of strips 15 years ago! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Burnie_man said: 2 hours ago, Kilbowie Benches said: There’s no point because you’re wrong! We arent wrong. Where is Lochee Larry I haven't seen him on here over the last few days of this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 Hopefully they end up in our Conference, last time we played them we humped them at Yoker in the Scottish Mate, I agree with a lot of your posts, but we’d absolutely pummel Blackburn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 Mate, I agree with a lot of your posts, but we’d absolutely pummel Blackburn. Oh don't bite, it wasn't for you [emoji23] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11TH MAY 1991 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 How many posts have the two bawbags made on this thread between them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Hamish Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Midge said: Absolutely nothing. ERSJFA will be part of pyramid at tier 6 but they don’t want that so are scaremongering the remaining clubs to move over. What part of you’re not allowed to have an opinion unless it’s of the same as Burnieman don’t you understand? F*ck sake this heid the baw isnae still around is he 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Hamish Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 hours ago, Kilbowie Benches said: The disbenefits disappear when the ERJFA is in the pyramid. In fact they will have the benefit of still being in the biggest non league cup competition. Its no happening son. West aye East naw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian44wood Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, 11TH MAY 1991 said: How many posts have the two bawbags made on this thread between them? who could this be. Larry 2 names 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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