FairWeatherFan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, parsforlife said: I wonder what position the HL is in to refuse applications if the applicant is licensed. If Banks o' dee applied do they have to be accepted? What if a tayside club got licensed? Nobody knows at this point. If they reject a club that's licensed and meet the HFL membership criteria it could risk the SFA stepping in. You've also got something similar in the SoS. Open to membership applications but currently at 16 teams with the possibility that Dalbeattie could be relegated to it. Would any club risk applying to an amateur league in all but standing with a 32/34 game league season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, parsforlife said: I wonder what position the HL is in to refuse applications if the applicant is licensed. If Banks o' dee applied do they have to be accepted? What if a tayside club got licensed? Should they do that they'd be on shaky ground, I'd imagine - if they refused an application from an-already licensed cub "just because" the question of how much longer what would essentially be a closed shop of 18 clubs could justify getting 50% of the chances to get into the SPFL, when the other 50% of chances could be contested by anything up to 133 clubs as of next year. It's already inequitable - south of the Tay holds 85% of the population of the country after all - but I imagine an overt refusal to engage in that fashion would soon make it untenable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Nobody knows at this point. If they reject a club that's licensed and meet the HFL membership criteria it could risk the SFA stepping in. You've also got something similar in the SoS. Open to membership applications but currently at 16 teams with the possibility that Dalbeattie could be relegated to it. Would any club risk applying to an amateur league in all but standing with a 32/34 game league season.SOS applications are unlikely anytime soon sans the Doonhamers adding their reserves. Every other club in D&G outside senior clubs (not counting Kello Rovers) are Sunday amateur. I had a look out of curiosity over the border and I cant find any clubs north of Carlisle so border hoppers are out of the question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, GNU_Linux said: SOS applications are unlikely anytime soon sans the Doonhamers adding their reserves. Every other club in D&G outside senior clubs (not counting Kello Rovers) are Sunday amateur. I had a look out of curiosity over the border and I cant find any clubs north of Carlisle so border hoppers are out of the question. They don't have to be from D&G. Bonnyton Thistle, Edusport Academy (playing out of Hamilton originally) and East Kilbride FC were all accepted in the last 6 years. There might be another Bonnyton Thistle out there looking to start up a senior side and feel that the SoS is a better starting spot instead of West Region League Two. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 They don't have to be from D&G. Bonnyton Thistle, Edusport Academy (playing out of Hamilton originally) and East Kilbride FC were all accepted in the last 6 years. There might be another Bonnyton Thistle out there looking to start up a senior side and feel that the SoS is a better starting spot instead of West Region League Two.in the case the west comes into the pyramid it all depends whether geographical limits are set in place by the sfa or not for feeder leagues 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 minute ago, FairWeatherFan said: They don't have to be from D&G. Bonnyton Thistle, Edusport Academy (playing out of Hamilton originally) and East Kilbride FC were all accepted in the last 6 years. There might be another Bonnyton Thistle out there looking to start up a senior side and feel that the SoS is a better starting spot instead of West Region League Two. Start-up sides would seem the likeliest to apply - no established club out of the SoS core area would be at all likely to. There doesn't appear to be any Saturday amateur football in the area these days...the local ammy league was down in numbers and eventually folded, with the remaining sides either chucking it altogether, going Sunday amateur or joining the SoS...Uppers, YM and Lochar being in the last category IIRC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, GNU_Linux said: 6 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: They don't have to be from D&G. Bonnyton Thistle, Edusport Academy (playing out of Hamilton originally) and East Kilbride FC were all accepted in the last 6 years. There might be another Bonnyton Thistle out there looking to start up a senior side and feel that the SoS is a better starting spot instead of West Region League Two. in the case the west comes into the pyramid it all depends whether geographical limits are set in place by the sfa or not for feeder leagues Don't see how you can set geographic boundaries between different league associations. Not only do you have the overlap in the East, but you've got plenty of Junior clubs South of Bonnyton Thistle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, parsforlife said: I wonder what position the HL is in to refuse applications if the applicant is licensed. If Banks o' dee applied do they have to be accepted? What if a tayside club got licensed? I remain surprised that Banks O'Dee haven't already (re)applied, thereby 'testing the water' that the HFL is not a closed shop, as some posts claim on this forum. If they do so now, and are successful, they would enter the pyramid (as HFL club 19) at tier 5. If they wait for the creation of an integrated pyramid in the north involving North Region juniors (in say, a few years time ?), they would be admitted at tier 6 instead. Where is the sense in that ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Robert James said: I remain surprised that Banks O'Dee haven't already (re)applied, thereby 'testing the water' that the HFL is not a closed shop, as some posts claim on this forum. If they do so now, and are successful, they would enter the pyramid (as HFL club 19) at tier 5. If they wait for the creation of an integrated pyramid in the north involving North Region juniors (in say, a few years time ?), they would be admitted at tier 6 instead. Where is the sense in that ? The chairman spat his dummy out after they failed in their bid to be elected to the HFL and now says they never wanted to be admitted anyway. Some might say it's better being a big fish in a small pond. Pig and Jam article here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Robert James said: I remain surprised that Banks O'Dee haven't already (re)applied, thereby 'testing the water' that the HFL is not a closed shop, as some posts claim on this forum. If they do so now, and are successful, they would enter the pyramid (as HFL club 19) at tier 5. If they wait for the creation of an integrated pyramid in the north involving North Region juniors (in say, a few years time ?), they would be admitted at tier 6 instead. Where is the sense in that ? Seems quite a bit of sense for them. Already licenced so they have the benefit of SFA membership 26 game league season in a largely Aberdeenshire division Big fish in a little pond so favourites to win the league and challenge in the cups They'd be favourites if ever a proper structure is put in place, so it's not like they'd have to fear being a tier below for long. And this way they avoid a 38 game league season across the Grampian & Highland areas which must be a pure cost for them even if there's some bump in attendances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Journeyman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 To solve the LL issue would it be possible to have 3 feeders into LL. East region as it is with the ERJFA clubs South of tay added.West League which comprises of Strathclyde and South which would be current South league teams and all Ayrshire teams.Or is this a no go as the bigger Ayrshire and Strathclyde teams want in the same division.Within 10 years you would have a healthy LL and the top league in each region strong2 promotion spots to LL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Fife Journeyman said: To solve the LL issue would it be possible to have 3 feeders into LL. East region as it is with the ERJFA clubs South of tay added. West League which comprises of Strathclyde and South which would be current South league teams and all Ayrshire teams. Or is this a no go as the bigger Ayrshire and Strathclyde teams want in the same division. Within 10 years you would have a healthy LL and the top league in each region strong 2 promotion spots to LL Ayrshire going south logistoically probably isn't good bonnyton must do a lot of travel as for the East south shield final at lockerbie was 90 mins treck for both of us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) From somewhere like Hurlford, which is roughly in the middle of Ayrshire, you can get to Edinburgh in roughly the same amount of time it takes to get down to Dumfries. And places like Kirkcudbright and Wigtown are even further away. That's not to say that Ayrshire couldn't eventually end up together with Dumfires & Galloway in some regional leagues at some point, but it's not the natural option that people outside of the area often think it must be. Edited January 9, 2019 by craigkillie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramidic Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) The EOSL are going to have a very successful Groundhop Weekend at the end of March: Friday 29th March Dunipace v Bonnyrigg (8pm) Saturday 30th March Camelon v Edinburgh Utd (11am) Inverkeithing v Heriot-Watt Uni (2:15pm) Blackburn v Preston (5:15pm) Linlithgow v Jeanfield (8pm) Sunday 31st March Peebles v Newtongrange (12:30pm) There could be up to a thousand spectators for the Linlithgow v Jeanfield game if both teams have a chance of winning the Conference C final Why on earth are the Juniors not supporting the Groundhoppers? For clubs it is not only a money making exercise but a great way to put our clubs on the football map. The Hoppers may be bringing up to three coaches from England for the six game weekend and then there those coming up by car. There will even be groundhoppers coming over from Germany I had a chat with a fellow groundhopper about this a while ago. Apparently the meeting with West Region JFA reps was going quite well but then this old guy put a stop to things. It does not take much to fathom out who the old guy must have been but why on earth would he put a stop to such an innovative change that involved permutation of fixtures over three days many months hence? The Groundhopper Rep could not understand what the problem was. However, if he had known who he was dealing with and the stubborn resistance to any change and the problems the WRJFA have had making advanced fixture permutations, the Rep would have known he was facing a battle that had no likelihood of a successful outcome. Kennie has certainly improved the fixture making this season. But I still feel that there is a firm resistance to any innovations of this nature in the West Region. Am I wrong? Does the West Region want their own Groundhop? Or are we still sticking our head in the sand. Edited January 12, 2019 by Pyramidic 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Larry just can't help making an arse of himself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubrey Maturin Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Larry just can't help making an arse of himself Yeh that's a minter of a post. Talbot, what a great achievement but for an official junior club account to reply like that is embarrassing. Well done Auchinleck, a great day for a proud, superbly run club. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforgoals Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Think the result for Talbot today should put this thread to bed. Junior football,especially in the west is thriving. We can all hope to get near the talbots status within our game,which makes for a healthy and competitive group of teams with hungry committee and supporters desperate to take part in what we witnessed today. #naejuniorsnaepoint 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grinderbrokeyourhearts Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Fair point but it's taken embracing senior football to get these occasions. Cove ans Ayr being the biggest games in your history now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Think the result for Talbot today should put this thread to bed. Junior football,especially in the west is thriving. We can all hope to get near the talbots status within our game,which makes for a healthy and competitive group of teams with hungry committee and supporters desperate to take part in what we witnessed today. #naejuniorsnaepointExcept in joining the pyramid more clubs would have the oppertunity to replicate Talbot via licensing. Licensing would also raise standards at clubs which can only be a good thing for a league (both facilities wise & off the pitch). 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted January 20, 2019 Author Share Posted January 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Ginaro said: Larry just can't help making an arse of himself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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