AlanCamelonfan Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Any signs of any of the junior clubs moving to EOSFL. Even if they did hypothetically get in at tier 6 is it worth it for Pumpherston Bathgate, whitburn etc. I think if we 3 or 4 decide to go the others might 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tell_me_more Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) Didn't take long for the barriers to go up to stop Junior Clubs entering the Scottish Cup especially with the major exodus planned for next season. Last season on here entry to the Scottish was being touted as a major attraction now its an "only". Plastic pitch teams welcome, the rest of you find 40k and hope you get a grant for 20k. What are the rest of the benefits can someone remind me again. Edited December 12, 2018 by tell_me_more 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 Didn't take long for the barriers to go up to stop Junior Clubs entering the Scottish Cup especially with the major exodus planned for next season. Last season on here entry to the Scottish was being touted as a major attraction now its an "only". Plastic pitch teams welcome, the rest of you find 40k and hope you get a grant for 20k. What are the rest of the benefits can someone remind me again.There's no barrier. Install floodlights, something which should have happened decades ago, but of course Junior fitba doesn't need them. Now it's someone elses fault. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, tell_me_more said: Didn't take long for the barriers to go up to stop Junior Clubs entering the Scottish Cup especially with the major exodus planned for next season. Last season on here entry to the Scottish was being touted as a major attraction now its an "only". Plastic pitch teams welcome, the rest of you find 40k and hope you get a grant for 20k. What are the rest of the benefits can someone remind me again. Stay out the pyramid then. The rest of us quite happy to go on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason King Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 43 minutes ago, tell_me_more said: What are the rest of the benefits can someone remind me again. Still at least you arent letting being left behind bother you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreamer Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 hours ago, tell_me_more said: Didn't take long for the barriers to go up to stop Junior Clubs entering the Scottish Cup especially with the major exodus planned for next season. Last season on here entry to the Scottish was being touted as a major attraction now its an "only". Plastic pitch teams welcome, the rest of you find 40k and hope you get a grant for 20k. What are the rest of the benefits can someone remind me again. No more barriers than previously. All that has changed is that floodlights are now going to be a requirement in Future. Most junior grounds wouldn’t be up to spec anyway. Licensing is required to progress upwards. 100+ juniors weren’t going to be licensed in the next few years regardless of floodlights becoming mandatory or not. Its been posted on here previously that Talbot haven’t installed floodlights as they didn’t need them for junior football but also it wasn’t a requirement of the club license they were pursuing at the time. Now it is a requirement, they will have no problems installing them with the 50k + in prize money from this seasons Scottish cup run... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tell_me_more Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 No more barriers than prieviously so just ignore the floodlights requirements yes or no? You lot are in denial if you say 40 - 60 k floodlights are not a barrier to entry. Loads of junior clubs in the top west league and below would have been applying for licensing within a very short period before this change, that will all be on hold now. One of the biggest benefits has been kicked into turf for a lot of teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drs Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Maybe, just maybe those clubs should have been forward planning around their facilities over the last few decades instead of spending all their money on players. This isn't a barrier, this is the 21st century catching up with clubs who still think its the 1950s. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Not a problem for us. [emoji846] 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, tell_me_more said: No more barriers than prieviously so just ignore the floodlights requirements yes or no? You lot are in denial if you say 40 - 60 k floodlights are not a barrier to entry. Loads of junior clubs in the top west league and below would have been applying for licensing within a very short period before this change, that will all be on hold now. One of the biggest benefits has been kicked into turf for a lot of teams. I tend to agree. It's better if you have them, but Junior clubs could be understood if they pointed out the changes that have been proposed and made make progress more challenging than it was presented. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 56 minutes ago, pipedreamer said: No more barriers than previously. All that has changed is that floodlights are now going to be a requirement in Future. Most junior grounds wouldn’t be up to spec anyway. Licensing is required to progress upwards. 100+ juniors weren’t going to be licensed in the next few years regardless of floodlights becoming mandatory or not. Blackburn, Dalkeith, Jeanfield, Haddington and Tranent will all have had the licensing officer round before the year is out. Easthouses, Bonnyrigg, Camelon and Newtongrange have all shown work or intentions to be licenced having moved over to the EoS. Look at that spread of clubs and look for equivalents that remain in the SJFA. It's not going to be the full the 131 playing this year, but it would be a far higher number than some people seem to think. People still dismiss Maryhill as beeing capable of getting a licence even though groundwise BSC Glasgow got licenced playing out of Lochburn Park. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Gold Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Seems to be a lot of people wanting to spend Talbot's money. Of course while the club were battling to reach the 4th round, the players didn't need paid or a win bonus, the bus to Wick, Cove and Fraserburgh didn't need petrol. Travelodge gave the Talbot squad three free nights before these games. Get real or better still try and emulate what Talbot have done. It looks like if we want to play in the big Scottish again we might have to invest in a wee plazzy pitch and a wee cage ground with no terrace and of course a bus shelter to battle the elements. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Blackie Gold said: Seems to be a lot of people wanting to spend Talbot's money. Of course while the club were battling to reach the 4th round, the players didn't need paid or a win bonus, the bus to Wick, Cove and Fraserburgh didn't need petrol. Travelodge gave the Talbot squad three free nights before these games. Get real or better still try and emulate what Talbot have done. It looks like if we want to play in the big Scottish again we might have to invest in a wee plazzy pitch and a wee cage ground with no terrace and of course a bus shelter to battle the elements. You will still have made a significant profit compared to the rest of your West Region peers. You don't currently have an SFA licence anyway: you've qualified for the Scottish Cup via the Junior league and Junior Cup champions routes - this isn't going to change. Floodlights in the tier below the national league is not an unreasonable requirement. You'll notice all of the Highland League clubs have floodlights and they seem to be managing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Blackie Gold said: Seems to be a lot of people wanting to spend Talbot's money. Of course while the club were battling to reach the 4th round, the players didn't need paid or a win bonus, the bus to Wick, Cove and Fraserburgh didn't need petrol. Travelodge gave the Talbot squad three free nights before these games. Get real or better still try and emulate what Talbot have done. It looks like if we want to play in the big Scottish again we might have to invest in a wee plazzy pitch and a wee cage ground with no terrace and of course a bus shelter to battle the elements. Why are you so bitter. Your getting in the scottish and i cant wait for my team to be in it next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Gold Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, AlanCamelonfan said: Why are you so bitter. Your getting in the scottish and i cant wait for my team to be in it next season. Who's bitter I'm just stating a fact. I can't wait to see you in it also, you look like a team that could reach round four. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Gold Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, Cyclizine said: You will still have made a significant profit compared to the rest of your West Region peers. You don't currently have an SFA licence anyway: you've qualified for the Scottish Cup via the Junior league and Junior Cup champions routes - this isn't going to change. Floodlights in the tier below the national league is not an unreasonable requirement. You'll notice all of the Highland League clubs have floodlights and they seem to be managing. We could have had a licence but we were asked to join the SOSL to get it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Blackie Gold said: We could have had a licence but we were asked to join the SOSL to get it. Well, that was your call, probably not unreasonable at the time. Although I wonder what would've happened if a load of West Region clubs applied en masse like in the East with the EoSFL. Given that it sounds that the West Region (at least) will be coming into the much vaunted pyramid next year, you'll still be able to get licenced and qualify automatically. You'll just have to install floodlights, which isn't a deal-breaker, in my opinion, since much 'smaller' clubs than Talbot have managed to install lights. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanCamelonfan Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Blackie Gold said: We could have had a licence but we were asked to join the SOSL to get it. Hopefully next yr it will be in a west league. 11 minutes ago, Blackie Gold said: Who's bitter I'm just stating a fact. I can't wait to see you in it also, you look like a team that could reach round four. I'd love that. Be a good day for talboth this season against ayr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Gold Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 22 minutes ago, Cyclizine said: Well, that was your call, probably not unreasonable at the time. Although I wonder what would've happened if a load of West Region clubs applied en masse like in the East with the EoSFL. Given that it sounds that the West Region (at least) will be coming into the much vaunted pyramid next year, you'll still be able to get licenced and qualify automatically. You'll just have to install floodlights, which isn't a deal-breaker, in my opinion, since much 'smaller' clubs than Talbot have managed to install lights. Apart from the plazzy pitch council owned netted cage no terrace set up I can't recall any other clubs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chis Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 23 minutes ago, Cyclizine said: Well, that was your call, probably not unreasonable at the time. Although I wonder what would've happened if a load of West Region clubs applied en masse like in the East with the EoSFL. Given that it sounds that the West Region (at least) will be coming into the much vaunted pyramid next year, you'll still be able to get licenced and qualify automatically. You'll just have to install floodlights, which isn't a deal-breaker, in my opinion, since much 'smaller' clubs than Talbot have managed to install lights. Provision of floodlights is not currently a requirement under the licensing criteria. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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