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Junior football, what is the future?


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On 18/03/2018 at 20:53, .Stuart. said:

Taken from the Kilwinning Rangers FB page.

From Kelty
What does the East of Scotland Football League have to offer?

• Membership of EOSFL which confirms acceptance of and commitment to the pyramid system thereby satisfying a mandatory requirement of being granted a Club Licence. SJFA - No
• Automatic entry to the Scottish Cup for Champion Club irrespective of licencing status which will generate a minimum income in excess of £3,000 SJFA - YES
• 3 ways of Scottish Cup Entry, EOS & SOS League Champions, Alex Jack Cup Winner, Any Licenced Club SJFA - No
• £3,000 Funding towards ground improvements available to all un-licenced clubs looking to gain their SFA Licence. SJFA - No
• Up to £10,000 funding as an EOS club available from Scottish Football Partnership towards ground improvements. SJFA - No
• Our ambition is to have all Members licenced as soon as possible and thereby automatically in the Scottish Cup every year. SJFA - No
• Very likely more promotion places will be available to enter the Lowland League from Tier 6. SJFA - No
• Depending on interest from that area a possible West Of Scotland division would be looked at for tier 6. SJFA - Yes
• SFA Sports First Aid courses at heavily discounted rates (or free of charge). SFA Licence compliant. SJFA - No
• All clubs supplied with a defibrillator and associated training. SFA Licence compliant. SJFA - No
• Bespoke personalised first aid bag. SJFA - No
• Personal Accident and Liability insurance incl. player to player liability paid for by the League. SFA Licence compliant. SJFA - No (EOS supply all 3 insurances that pass Licence criteria)
• Match balls and training balls supplied each season. SJFA - Yes (Matchballs only)
• Coaching courses at heavily discounted rates (or free of charge) up to C Licence level. SJFA - Unsure
• Prize money for those Clubs finishing in the top four in the league. SJFA - Yes
• A sound organisational structure with fixtures issued on a seasonal basis. SJFA - No
• In combination with the Scottish Lowland League and the South of Scotland League an U20 development league for the development of a player pathway. SJFA - No
• Automatic entry for the U20 team into the Scottish Youth Cup. SJFA - No

LOWLAND LEAGUE (added to above)
• As it stands winner goes into a play off for promotion to SPFL. SJFA - No
• Winner gets automatic entry into the Betfred Cup Group Stage, £17,000 minimum prize money, guaranteed 2 home matches in group also. SJFA - No
• Top 4 qualify for Irn Bru Cup, minimum £3,000 Prize money. SJFA - No
• Up to £20,000 funding as a LL club available from Scottish Football Partnership towards ground improvements. SJFA - No

SJFA
• Scottish Junior Cup, £8,000 Prize money for winner . Tier 5/6 No
• West region setup although It’s not part of the pyramid. Tier 5/6 No
• Local and regional rivalries built over decades. Tier 5/6 In some cases No but will have as it evolves

Happy to be corrected on anything here but when you see it written like this it’s shocking the way the SJFA have mismanaged the grade for their member clubs. These innovative and progressional rewards and solid structure of being part of the pyramid and the advantages that went with it was available to all Junior clubs, pity the SJFA chose not to engage.
If the SJFA had canvassed their member clubs with all this information on what being part of the pyramid could offer a lot more would I’m sure have wanted to look at integrating as 1 through the SJFA, none of this research was shared with a pros and cons approach out of what now seems like snobbery, scandalous really.

It’s at the stage now where it’s either over to the SJFA clubs to take matters into their own hands or put your clubs future and trust in the guys running the SJFA.

*this information might not be accurate and has been copied from another source

POTENTIAL BENEFITS :

As the SJFA's meeting with East Junior clubs is imminent, the above post is a very helpful COMPARISON of BENEFITS  of the EoS and of the SJFA...........................

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21 minutes ago, Robert James said:

POTENTIAL BENEFITS :

As the SJFA's meeting with East Junior clubs is imminent, the above post is a very helpful COMPARISON of BENEFITS  of the EoS and of the SJFA...........................

There needs to be an addition in the Lowland League part to that list was missed out

As far as im aware  - 

- £10k is split 3 ways to the best 3 clubs in the Lowland League disciplinary table at the end of each season.

-£10k is split between the top 3 clubs in the Lowland League voted for the best community enagagemnet that season.

Both rewards are obviously to promote better discipline and community engagement from competing clubs which is a good concept.

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18 hours ago, Burnie_man said:

We played them when they were Wilsons XI three or four name changes ago.  They never had any support then either. Basically an amateur team playing Junior.

I was up there earlier in the season, and wondered how they'd ended up out there - Newburgh itself is a well-heeled and expanding commuter village for Aberdeen, and certainly not what immediately strikes you as a hotbed of nonleague football. There were maybe 30-35 there on a scorching day in early September, a good proportion of those up from their opponents Stonehaven.

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5 hours ago, kefc said:

There needs to be an addition in the Lowland League part to that list was missed out

As far as im aware  - 

- £10k is split 3 ways to the best 3 clubs in the Lowland League disciplinary table at the end of each season.

-£10k is split between the top 3 clubs in the Lowland League voted for the best community enagagemnet that season.

Both rewards are obviously to promote better discipline and community engagement from competing clubs which is a good concept.

Huge pot of gold ...where does it come from ? 

Why did craigroyston and easthouse LILY leave this cash feast..

 

ALL sounds too good yo be true .

Also clubs in junior football blaming the beaks should remember the clubs make the rules , management committees merely ensure clubs abide by said rules .any clubs looking for change simply had to put forward proposal for consideration at agm. I have heard of no great ideas to revolutionise junior football in years ( by official means)

ALL the best to the ex junior clubs .hopefully my club remain in the biggest and best NON LEAGUE association in Scotland and strive to make improvements from within .

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24 minutes ago, gogsy said:

How did the BIG south league derby go yesterday :)

Does the fact that your clubs twitter account has only tweeted nine times since the start of 2018 mean that you havent got a clue how to market your club?

No answer to any questions again ....

 

I think you don't know the answers just abuse clubs that disagree.came along way in 5 years . Social media obviously high in kelty agenda .not sure if people want to know about darts team .dominoes league and cribbage clubs tho .ANSWERS PLEASE .

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32 minutes ago, gogsy said:

How did the BIG south league derby go yesterday :)

Does the fact that your clubs twitter account has only tweeted nine times since the start of 2018 mean that you havent got a clue how to market your club?

Armadale sells itself!

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Huge pot of gold ...where does it come from?

Maybe do some research yourself. However the money comes from SFA and it's sponsors.

Why did craigroyston and easthouse LILY leave this cash feast..

They were never licenced clubs, and one is moving back by the looks of it.
 
ALL sounds too good yo be true .

It's not.

Also clubs in junior football blaming the beaks should remember the clubs make the rules , management committees merely ensure clubs abide by said rules .any clubs looking for change simply had to put forward proposal for consideration at agm. I have heard of no great ideas to revolutionise junior football in years ( by official means)

So don't blame the beaks but the beaks haven't come up with any ideas for years?

ALL the best to the ex junior clubs .hopefully my club remain in the biggest and best NON LEAGUE association in Scotland and strive to make improvements from within .

It's on its last legs, the club's have spoken. If you want to stick with the leftovers your club will sink even further into insignificance than they already have.
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