The DUP

[LongTimeLurker]

He was never going to show up for an NI centenary celebration in a CoI cathedral regardless of what was on the invitation. The only way it would happen would be if that angle wasn't explicitly stated. Somebody senior would have needed to be spectacularly thick not to realise that they don't like being referred to as the RoI rather than Ireland in official contexts. The usual work around pre-GFA was to refer to them as Eire in Gaelic instead but they eventually took umbrage to that as well.

[Antlion]

2 hours ago, Clown Job said:

They can’t even get his title right

On a side note, look at how a mature democracy’s head of state responds to criticism and addresses issues. Now compare that to the veil of secrecy and pathetic, wannabe wizardry that surrounds the zombified old fossil in Buckingham Palace (“the palace has been approached for comment”, “palace sources deny…”).

Edited September 17, 2021 by Antlion

[G51]

1 hour ago, Clown Job said:

They can’t even get his title right

Plot twist:

 

Maybe Mickey D’s eggs are finally scrambled. The guy is about a hundred years old to be fair to him.

[Clown Job]

10 minutes ago, G51 said:

Plot twist:

 

Maybe Mickey D’s eggs are finally scrambled. The guy is about a hundred years old to be fair to him.

Is this meant to be some sorta gotcha?

I don’t see why they would celebrate the partition of the island to begin with. 

Its not as if the DUP would be attending any commemoration of 1916 mind you. 
 

Edit: Quick google search shows they considered it an act of insurrection by terrorists

Edited September 17, 2021 by Clown Job

[G51]

2 minutes ago, Dolf said:

No,still sharp as a tack and very well spoken

His erudition may be challenged though if he ever has to stand in front of the press and explain why he is protecting a family member that is not only on the public payroll for life but also a nonce

I think you have me confused with someone that has any time at all for the royal family lol

[G51]

Just now, Clown Job said:

Is this meant to be some sorta gotcha?

I don’t see why they would celebrate the partition of the island to begin with. 

Its not as if the DUP would be attending any commemoration of 1916 mind you. 

I mean, it’s very clearly a gotcha.

The ceremony isn’t a celebration of partition. It’s a multi-faith service organised by the Catholic Church, the CofI and the Presbyterian Church. It’s expressly apolitical and is supposed to be about bringing the communities together to remember the past and hope for the future. For one side not to participate in that looks really bad. Even Alliance are calling on him to reconsider.

PS: the DUP did attend events related to the 1916 rising lol - https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dup-leader-to-attend-event-in-dublin-marking-1916-rising-1.2536725%3fmode=amp

[Clown Job]

6 minutes ago, G51 said:

I mean, it’s very clearly a gotcha.

The ceremony isn’t a celebration of partition. It’s a multi-faith service organised by the Catholic Church, the CofI and the Presbyterian Church. It’s expressly apolitical and is supposed to be about bringing the communities together to remember the past and hope for the future. For one side not to participate in that looks really bad. Even Alliance are calling on him to reconsider.

PS: the DUP did attend events related to the 1916 rising lol - https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/dup-leader-to-attend-event-in-dublin-marking-1916-rising-1.2536725%3fmode=amp

It’s really not though, is it?

It’s pretty wild you’d suggest any even regarding the creation of NI would be apolitical 

From your link 

“Last month, the DUP leader said she would not attend events commemorating the Easter Rising as she believed the rebellion gave “succour” to violent republicanism. She subsequently softened her stance to say she would be happy to attend a conference or symposium discussing Easter 1916”

What a hero that bigot is. 

[G51]

3 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

It’s really not though, is it?

It’s pretty wild you’d suggest any even regarding the creation of NI would be apolitical 

From your link 

“Last month, the DUP leader said she would not attend events commemorating the Easter Rising as she believed the rebellion gave “succour” to violent republicanism. She subsequently softened her stance to say she would be happy to attend a conference or symposium discussing Easter 1916”

What a hero that bigot is. 

From RTE’s story, see the quotes from the Catholic Archbishop where he expressly states that the event is apolitical and is about all sides reflecting on the past and hoping for the future:

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0917/1247297-michael-d-higgins/

Acknowledging that something happened is not being political lol, what a stupid assertion that is. 

Whether Foster is a bigot or not isn’t relevant, the DUP attended 1916 rising events and you said they didn’t. GOTCHA!

[Clown Job]

3 minutes ago, G51 said:

From RTE’s story, see the quotes from the Catholic Archbishop where he expressly states that the event is apolitical and is about all sides reflecting on the past and hoping for the future:

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0917/1247297-michael-d-higgins/

Acknowledging that something happened is not being political lol, what a stupid assertion that is. 

Whether Foster is a bigot or not isn’t relevant, the DUP attended 1916 rising events and you said they didn’t. GOTCHA!

You’re still acting like this is a gotcha 

The partition of Ireland and the creating of NI is very political.

You’d need to be arguing in bad faith to suggest otherwise 

Again, I say why he wouldn’t attend is pretty obvious, so I don’t understand the fake outrage over it 

No not about it, Arlene is a bigot. She’s a member of an anti catholic organisation

You can’t argue against that…. Well not in good faith 

 

Edited September 17, 2021 by Clown Job

[Clown Job]

 

[Meldrew]

27 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

 

there is a ton of stuff like this in murica, from right wing talk radio gammons.

[Jacksgranda]

58 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

 

Compare and contrast with Michelle O'Neill's experience - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-58622555

[LongTimeLurker]

A 0.0036% possibility still happens to someone, so Suzanne doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the box either.

[Fullerene]

46 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

A 0.0036% possibility still happens to someone, so Suzanne doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the box either.

She must be dumbfounded by the national lottery every week.

"Would you believe it.  Somebody won."

[Jacksgranda]

Ex NI Secretary James Brokenshire's died.

I knew he'd stepped down due to ill health, hadn't realised he was that ill. Only 53.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58844606

[welshbairn]

4 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

Ex NI Secretary James Brokenshire's died.

I knew he'd stepped down due to ill health, hadn't realised he was that ill. Only 53.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58844606

I remember him being replaced as NI Secretary by someone who confessed she didn't realise that people there often vote along sectarian lines.

[Clockwork]

I remember him being replaced as NI Secretary by someone who confessed she didn't realise that people there often vote along sectarian lines.

He was replaced by Karen Bradley, who was equally as useless and as ineffective as his replacement at Stormont.
53’s no age though, sad news!

[LongTimeLurker]

On 02/10/2021 at 15:34, Dolf said:

Sums up Unionism at the moment and moving forward

 

He needed to get different actors with the right sorts of accent to make something like that actually work. The combination of an RoI accent and a Rangers jersey just comes across as seriously bizarre. A pro-reentry Scotland still having a land border with a pro-Brexit rUK complicates moving out in a potentially actually needing a passport to cross a hard border at Carlisle sort of way and it's far from impossible that a revised NI protocol will ultimately prove to be advantageous to NI in a best of both worlds sort of way, so the future isn't as inevitable as this guy is implying. Also not true to say NI was never wanted. Even the Liberals back in 1912 never envisaged an Ireland completely outside the UK and Empire but wanted a rejigged federal or confederal arrangement with Scotland and Wales also having Home Rule.

[welshbairn]

2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

He needed to get different actors with the right sorts of accent to make something like that actually work. The combination of an RoI accent and a Rangers jersey just comes across as seriously bizarre. A pro-reentry Scotland still having a land border with a pro-Brexit rUK complicates moving out in a potentially actually needing a passport to cross a hard border at Carlisle sort of way and it's far from impossible that a revised NI protocol will ultimately prove to be advantageous to NI in a best of both worlds sort of way, so the future isn't as inevitable as this guy is implying. Also not true to say NI was never wanted. Even the Liberals back in 1912 never envisaged an Ireland completely outside the UK and Empire but wanted a rejigged federal or confederal arrangement with Scotland and Wales also having Home Rule.

If there's a rational Government in London post independence, it might be possible to work out a Liechtenstein type deal, who have single market arrangements with both Switzerland and the EU. 

[Jacksgranda]

19 minutes ago, Dolf said:

You go to parties and spend all night in the kitchen don't you

He probably does if you're at them...