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On 02/09/2020 at 15:01, Jacksgranda said:

And more, not too far away from the last one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-54223557

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2 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

We will see how LOYAL the DUP are now that Boris has been outed as a secret Cafflik

 

As long as he's not a member of the IRA Army "Council", they'll probably be able to live with it...

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Definite signs that the UK establishment is now gently ushering NI towards the exit after the DUPes campaigned for something that was very much not in Ulster Unionism's long term interest:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-55783805

Would a BBC Scotland website story highlight a pro-Referendum angle if the poll numbers were breaking 47:42 in the No side's favour, given the BBC's state broadcaster role? Enda has been placed there for a reason.

 

 

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On 24/01/2021 at 13:31, LongTimeLurker said:

Definite signs that the UK establishment is now gently ushering NI towards the exit after the DUPes campaigned for something that was very much not in Ulster Unionism's long term interest:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-55783805

Would a BBC Scotland website story highlight a pro-Referendum angle if the poll numbers were breaking 47:42 in the No side's favour, given the BBC's state broadcaster role? Enda has been placed there for a reason.

 

 

Might be better having a poll sooner than later?

"So according to these figures there may be an appetite for a border poll - but if that question was posed the majority are saying they would stay in the UK."

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18 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

Might be better having a poll sooner than later?

"So according to these figures there may be an appetite for a border poll - but if that question was posed the majority are saying they would stay in the UK."

No it should be postponed u til there is a majority in favour.

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5 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

Might be better having a poll sooner than later?

"So according to these figures there may be an appetite for a border poll - but if that question was posed the majority are saying they would stay in the UK."

Unionism winning a border poll (still a lot more likely than not for tribal headcount reasons) means that there can't be another one for another 7 years (an analogy that the Conservatives strangely never seem to want to use in the context of the timing of a second Scottish independence referendum). Not sure that's a long enough gap to make it worth the risk from a Unionist standpoint. Think it's better to wait and hope Brexit related trade issues get fixed over time.

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24 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Unionism winning a border poll (still a lot more likely than not for tribal headcount reasons) means that there can't be another one for another 7 years (an analogy that the Conservatives strangely never seem to want to use in the context of the timing of a second Scottish independence referendum). Not sure that's a long enough gap to make it worth the risk from a Unionist standpoint. Think it's better to wait and hope Brexit related trade issues get fixed over time.

When I said sooner rather than later I was thinking of the next 2 years, rather than next month, although that's highly unlikely as it would take at least that long to draw up the benefits of a UI to put to the people.

In fact it might take 7 years to do that.

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15 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

When I said sooner rather than later I was thinking of the next 2 years, rather than next month, although that's highly unlikely as it would take at least that long to draw up the benefits of a UI to put to the people.

In fact it might take 7 years to do that.

The best case for the reunification of Ireland would be for them to reunite with there long last pal and rejoin Britain where they can get all the vaccines they want. 

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The best case for the reunification of Ireland would be for them to reunite with there long last pal and rejoin Britain where they can get all the vaccines they want. 

Other than the Unionist Parties in Ulster. Has there ever been a party in Eire advocating reunification with the U.K.?
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10 hours ago, Dunfermline Don said:


Other than the Unionist Parties in Ulster. Has there ever been a party in Eire advocating reunification with the U.K.?

Oddly enough Sir Edward Carson, who had been Irish Unionist Alliance MP for the University of Dublin, received an invitation (as did all Irish MPs at the time) to take his seat in the First Dail 

He declined but his name was still read out at the first roll call followed by laughter from the Sinn Fein MPs 

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