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6 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

come up with proper American sounding names for these franchise teams and I might get behind it, the Lanarkshire steelers, highland warriors or fife c***s would be a few examples to start with

Celtic + Rangers = Glasgow Soapdodgers

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51 minutes ago, TartanWarrior said:

Why? If anything they will bring more fans in due to the league being more competitive.

Your 18 team franchise league with no relegation ?

You're at it.

 

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2 hours ago, TartanWarrior said:

In Scotland we have a large number of sides but with attendances spread out over these sides meaning awful performances in Europe and a loss of real competition for trophies.

Perhaps its time to consider merging sides together to create larger teams so we can actually get some competition in our league?

Hibs + Hearts + Edinburgh City merging to create Edinburgh City - playing at Murrayfield - potential for 30-40k crowds

Partick + Queens Park + Clyde + Albion Rovers merging to create Glasgow City - playing at Firhill or Hampden

Morton + Dumbarton + St Mirren merging to create The Renfrewshire Rovers - playing at Cappielow

Falkirk + Livingston + Stenhousemuir merging to create The Central Champs - playing at Almondvale

Dunfermline + Raith Rovers + East Fife + Cowdenbeath merging to create Fife United - playing at East End Park

Dundee + Dundee United + Abroath + Brechin City + Forfar Athletic + Montrose merging to create Dundee United - playing at Tannadice

ICT + Ross County + Elgin City merging to create The Highland Warriors - playing at the Caledonian Stadium

Hamilton + Motherwell + Airdrieonians merging to create Lanarkshire FC - playing at Fir Park

Kilmarnock + Ayr merging to create Ayrshire United - playing at Rugby Park

QOTS + Annan + Stranraer merging to create The Border Reivers - playing at Palmerston

With those changes you would have created a good 10 teams who could compete for trophies and many of them would become huge UK clubs. Attendances would increase in the top league and we could reduce the number of total leagues to divisions of 12. This would make Scotland more competitive in Europe and in the transfer market.

The bottom teams don;t even play in the borders hahaha

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What at terrible idea this is.

You seriously suggesting that it would see larger attendances? Maybe for individual games aye, but not when you view crowd attendances nationally. The folk who want to (and can afford to) spend each Saturday afternoon at the footie already are doing. Such a restructure would not generate tidal waves of new punters flooding to football grounds for the first time. If anything national attendances would drop as there would be less local community clubs. Cost and time travelling to the main regional grounds would turn away punters who have been used to seeing their local team playing on their doorstep week-in-week-out.  

 

 

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4 hours ago, TartanTyneArmy said:

What at terrible idea this is.

You seriously suggesting that it would see larger attendances? Maybe for individual games aye, but not when you view crowd attendances nationally. The folk who want to (and can afford to) spend each Saturday afternoon at the footie already are doing. Such a restructure would not generate tidal waves of new punters flooding to football grounds for the first time. If anything national attendances would drop as there would be less local community clubs. Cost and time travelling to the main regional grounds would turn away punters who have been used to seeing their local team playing on their doorstep week-in-week-out.  

 

 

OK lad. Dont piss on your tampon.

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As well as messaging Div asking him to make "The Border Reivers" available under "My Team" selection, I'm also working on a chant for my new superclub, but I'm not quite sure if it's pronounced "reevers", "ryvers", "rivers" or "ravers". I hope to God it's the latter. 

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15 hours ago, TartanTyneArmy said:

What at terrible idea this is.

You seriously suggesting that it would see larger attendances? Maybe for individual games aye, but not when you view crowd attendances nationally. The folk who want to (and can afford to) spend each Saturday afternoon at the footie already are doing. Such a restructure would not generate tidal waves of new punters flooding to football grounds for the first time. If anything national attendances would drop as there would be less local community clubs. Cost and time travelling to the main regional grounds would turn away punters who have been used to seeing their local team playing on their doorstep week-in-week-out.  

 

 

 

11 hours ago, TartanWarrior said:

OK lad. Dont piss on your tampon.

Now he's talking to himself. What a staggering pathetic cretin. I hope your next shite is a Lego police station and that you stand on 28 upturned plugs over the next week.

Then get the psychiatric assistance you need.

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1 hour ago, Cardinal Richelieu said:

As well as messaging Div asking him to make "The Border Reivers" available under "My Team" selection, I'm also working on a chant for my new superclub, but I'm not quite sure if it's pronounced "reevers", "ryvers", "rivers" or "ravers". I hope to God it's the latter. 

Bad news; it's 'reevers'. There was a short lived pro rugby team of the same name and that was how everyone pronounced it. That and the fact that that is how is pronounced in general has scuppered your song I'm afraid

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6 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Bad news; it's 'reevers'. There was a short lived pro rugby team of the same name and that was how everyone pronounced it. That and the fact that that is how is pronounced in general has scuppered your song I'm afraid

Cheers, thankfully this website has plenty of suggestions... not quite sure how I'm going to work "superheterodyne receiver" into a song, but there's plenty of others to work with.

We come from the Borders, we're known as the Reivers, 

We're destined to be the highest achievers, 

We're eager as all the re-introduced beavers, 

f**k Ayrshite United, I hope they all catch Yellow Fever.

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12 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Bad news; it's 'reevers'. There was a short lived pro rugby team of the same name and that was how everyone pronounced it. That and the fact that that is how is pronounced in general has scuppered your song I'm afraid

This man gets it. Well done you!

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It's obvious this is a troll/alias, however I genuinely cannot believe someone went to the effort of typing all that out in a quest to annoy people.

8 hours ago, DA Baracus said:

Bad news; it's 'reevers'. There was a short lived pro rugby team of the same name and that was how everyone pronounced it. That and the fact that that is how is pronounced in general has scuppered your song I'm afraid

Aye it's definitely 'reevers'. Border Reivers are still a racing team. Jim Clark did Le Mans for them in the 60s, and they still run a few cars in national Formula Ford these days too I think.

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In Scotland we have a large number of sides but with attendances spread out over these sides meaning awful performances in Europe and a loss of real competition for trophies.
Perhaps its time to consider merging sides together to create larger teams so we can actually get some competition in our league?
Hibs + Hearts + Edinburgh City merging to create Edinburgh City - playing at Murrayfield - potential for 30-40k crowds
Partick + Queens Park + Clyde + Albion Rovers merging to create Glasgow City - playing at Firhill or Hampden
Morton + Dumbarton + St Mirren merging to create The Renfrewshire Rovers - playing at Cappielow
Falkirk + Livingston + Stenhousemuir merging to create The Central Champs - playing at Almondvale
Dunfermline + Raith Rovers + East Fife + Cowdenbeath merging to create Fife United - playing at East End Park
Dundee + Dundee United + Abroath + Brechin City + Forfar Athletic + Montrose merging to create Dundee United - playing at Tannadice
ICT + Ross County + Elgin City merging to create The Highland Warriors - playing at the Caledonian Stadium
Hamilton + Motherwell + Airdrieonians merging to create Lanarkshire FC - playing at Fir Park
Kilmarnock + Ayr merging to create Ayrshire United - playing at Rugby Park
QOTS + Annan + Stranraer merging to create The Border Reivers - playing at Palmerston
With those changes you would have created a good 10 teams who could compete for trophies and many of them would become huge UK clubs. Attendances would increase in the top league and we could reduce the number of total leagues to divisions of 12. This would make Scotland more competitive in Europe and in the transfer market.


It's time for your arse to merge with a steel toe cap.

Nonsense idea.
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Cheers, thankfully this website has plenty of suggestions... not quite sure how I'm going to work "superheterodyne receiver" into a song, but there's plenty of others to work with.
We come from the Borders, we're known as the Reivers, 
We're destined to be the highest achievers, 
We're eager as all the re-introduced beavers, 
f**k Ayrshite United, I hope they all catch Yellow Fever.


Then I saw her face, now I'm a Border Reiver
Not a trace of doubt in my mind
I'm in love (Ooooh)
I'm a Border Reiver, I couldn't leave her if I tried

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7 hours ago, thekorean said:

Would seem far easier to tell Old Firm to f**k off.

No teams are going to do that - they're much happier to stand under them with a begging bowl hoping for scraps.

Merges would get rid of one of the main strengths of the Scottish game - the local derbies.  They are usually the best attended matches of the season so it seems silly to do away with them.

No relegation though - I can see an appeal in this.  It'd help clubs plan financially.  But if this were to happen it'd need to be like the AFL/NFL/MLB etc where each team has a chance of winning the league.  That's everyone's goal at the start of the season.  If it doesn't work, you'd be able to blood youngsters and plan for the next season (which appeals to me more than a crappy relegation battle).

Teams not being promoted isn't a big deal.  The Juniors cope fine with it.  The Highland League hasn't walked into Utopia with the opportunity.

But everything hinges on having a competitive title race.  Which we'll never have.  So we're screwed.

 

 

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If there are no promotion relegation system, there should be more teams in the league, and need to institute salary cap or wage cap as Europeans call it. Or at least implement luxury tax like baseball (teams spending above certain limit has to pay tax, which is distributed to smaller market teams).

Not really socialism, because a) in America league itself is a corporation and b) in the long run, all teams being healthy maximizes profit.

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