Leith Green Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Girth said: Any chance of the bods at the top leaving any time soon mate!? Sadly, no. Owner "knows it all" without having any knowledge of football. We are through the looking glass just now, spending a shit ton of money on the wrong players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, Leith Green said: We go through them quicker than Tory Prime Minister's. The issues are at a higher level than manager. Totally agree that you should be bringing in Boris Johnson, with Truss as his assistant 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Get Kerr and Rooney signed up Hibs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Get Kerr and Rooney signed up Hibs Both are good lads, sadly JK has done his ACL and also earns a packet at Wigan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Leith Green said: Both are good lads, sadly JK has done his ACL and also earns a packet at Wigan. Shame as both of them would Improvements on our back 4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 If youre getting any of our old players itll be McCart who, last time i checked, was lucky to ever get off Rotherhams bench. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: If youre getting any of our old players itll be McCart who, last time i checked, was lucky to ever get off Rotherhams bench. Yeah, but do you think he would be an improvement on Hanlon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: If youre getting any of our old players itll be McCart who, last time i checked, was lucky to ever get off Rotherhams bench. He actually started a game the other day. Dunno why, but much like the others he’ll be on a stupid wage for someone of his ability! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Stylish Kid said: I think Grant Stott said it on the BBC in the world cup break - sacking managers annually is going to put off any serious candidate. It's not even annually at least in recent seasons, if this list is correct. Managers since 1986 Alex Miller 10 yrs Jim Duffy 1 yr Alex McLeish 4 yrs FRank Sauzee 2 MTHS Bobby WIlliamson 2 yrs Tony Mowbray 2 yrs John Collins 1 yr Mixu Paatelainen 1 yr John Hughes 1 yr Colin Calderwood 1 yr Pat Fenlon 2 yrs Terry Butcher 8 MTHS Alan Stubbs 2 yrs Neil Lennon 2.5 yrs Paul Heckingbottom 8 MTHS Jack Ross 2 yrs Shaun Maloney 4 MTHS Lee Johnson 8 MTHS (so far) Edited January 2, 2023 by Crùbag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Cabbage Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Sacking Lee Johnson isny the answer, anyone that believes if we let him go it’ll change and we’ll be great is an utter simpleton. Ive been saying it for ages, I recall @Tommy Tappin claiming that I was clueless for doubting Ron Gordon, wonder how he’s feeling now. Club is rotten to the core, until we get the yanks out the club we will continue to be. Today was the first derby that I’ve been in the country for that I’ve missed by choice, I decided to put my ticket money on Hearts to win @ 6/4 so that’s been a decent investment. Prior to Ron Gordon’s arrival I was a 30-35 game a season supporter, now it’d be lucky if I go to 20 and even then the majority of them are purely as an excuse for a piss up with mates, and we are away back to the pub before within the first 60 minutes in the majority of them. That daft p***k has pretty much single handedly turned one of the favourite things in my life to something that I’m almost ambivalent about. Starting to wonder if relegation is the best thing for us because it’s the only way that we’ll be able to pull the anger and support within the fanbase to chase him and his son away from our club. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, Les Cabbage said: Sacking Lee Johnson isny the answer, anyone that believes if we let him go it’ll change and we’ll be great is an utter simpleton. Ive been saying it for ages, I recall @Tommy Tappin claiming that I was clueless for doubting Ron Gordon, wonder how he’s feeling now. Club is rotten to the core, until we get the yanks out the club we will continue to be. Today was the first derby that I’ve been in the country for that I’ve missed by choice, I decided to put my ticket money on Hearts to win @ 6/4 so that’s been a decent investment. Prior to Ron Gordon’s arrival I was a 30-35 game a season supporter, now it’d be lucky if I go to 20 and even then the majority of them are purely as an excuse for a piss up with mates, and we are away back to the pub before within the first 60 minutes in the majority of them. That daft p***k has pretty much single handedly turned one of the favourite things in my life to something that I’m almost ambivalent about. Starting to wonder if relegation is the best thing for us because it’s the only way that we’ll be able to pull the anger and support within the fanbase to chase him and his son away from our club. If by some imagination Johnson is still in charge by the cup game and we’re losing. I could see the atmosphere turning pretty nasty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Tappin Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Les Cabbage said: Sacking Lee Johnson isny the answer, anyone that believes if we let him go it’ll change and we’ll be great is an utter simpleton. Ive been saying it for ages, I recall @Tommy Tappin claiming that I was clueless for doubting Ron Gordon, wonder how he’s feeling now. Club is rotten to the core, until we get the yanks out the club we will continue to be. Today was the first derby that I’ve been in the country for that I’ve missed by choice, I decided to put my ticket money on Hearts to win @ 6/4 so that’s been a decent investment. Prior to Ron Gordon’s arrival I was a 30-35 game a season supporter, now it’d be lucky if I go to 20 and even then the majority of them are purely as an excuse for a piss up with mates, and we are away back to the pub before within the first 60 minutes in the majority of them. That daft p***k has pretty much single handedly turned one of the favourite things in my life to something that I’m almost ambivalent about. Starting to wonder if relegation is the best thing for us because it’s the only way that we’ll be able to pull the anger and support within the fanbase to chase him and his son away from our club. You're still clueless. It seems to be too much to ask a fanbase to understand that a business can flourish while the product is minging. Anecdotal 'Ah'll never be back' bollocks has ruled the club's thinking for too long. Ron Gordon has made three major errors so far, appointing Maloney, Johnson and allowing his son to be in the firing line. He's already learnt from all three. Plus he owns the place, he can do what he wants. He knows what we know, our average finish in the top flight is 6.5th - call it 7th or where we've been hovering most recently since the start of Season 20-21. So if a league position equates to a clueless owner and leadership, that's all we've ever had; including 'clueless' Dempster/Lennon/Stubbs. Back in reality land though, business owners don't like making a loss unless they are looking to save tax and don't like the lack of social standing that owning a losing venture offers. Finally, Hibs are doing a roaring trade in a poor season Why? Because Gordon knows that the biggest gap he has to close is the revenue/profit gap between us and Aberdeen/Hearts. He's closed the biggest gap first. The fans don't know/care about any of that. For fans, (some) go to the matches, get home and call upon the Hibs fan social media template. It goes like this, play along at home if you like. GTF because of recruitment GTF because of where you're from GTF because of some team you used to play for GTF because your football is boring GTF because your interviews boring GTF because you're English GTF because if you don't sack xyz 'ahhhhhhhhh'mmmmmmmmmm never going back.' etc etc etc Gordon has quickly understood the need for Hibs to be financially independent of people whose opinions swing like this. Don't forget, most of us wanted Jack Ross out and were howling at Gordon to sack him; but would consider his record a success for Lee Johnson now, just two years later. Can't build a business on that kind instability. He's thrown a ton of money in, he's spent it very badly, he's raising revenues, he's having to learn fast. Meanwhile Hibs are 8th, but we often are no matter who the owner/manager/players/fans are anyway. We had 27 years out of 29 of 'Farmer out' and a good 22 or so years of 'Petrie out'. Before that we had 'Duff out' and I'm old enough to remember both 'Waugh Out' and 'Hart Out'. It was in fanzines and pub talk back then though. So what's new pussycat? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Tommy Tappin said: You're still clueless. It seems to be too much to ask a fanbase to understand that a business can flourish while the product is minging. Anecdotal 'Ah'll never be back' bollocks has ruled the club's thinking for too long. Ron Gordon has made three major errors so far, appointing Maloney, Johnson and allowing his son to be in the firing line. He's already learnt from all three. Plus he owns the place, he can do what he wants. He knows what we know, our average finish in the top flight is 6.5th - call it 7th or where we've been hovering most recently since the start of Season 20-21. So if a league position equates to a clueless owner and leadership, that's all we've ever had; including 'clueless' Dempster/Lennon/Stubbs. Back in reality land though, business owners don't like making a loss unless they are looking to save tax and don't like the lack of social standing that owning a losing venture offers. Finally, Hibs are doing a roaring trade in a poor season Why? Because Gordon knows that the biggest gap he has to close is the revenue/profit gap between us and Aberdeen/Hearts. He's closed the biggest gap first. The fans don't know/care about any of that. For fans, (some) go to the matches, get home and call upon the Hibs fan social media template. It goes like this, play along at home if you like. GTF because of recruitment GTF because of where you're from GTF because of some team you used to play for GTF because your football is boring GTF because your interviews boring GTF because you're English GTF because if you don't sack xyz 'ahhhhhhhhh'mmmmmmmmmm never going back.' etc etc etc Gordon has quickly understood the need for Hibs to be financially independent of people whose opinions swing like this. Don't forget, most of us wanted Jack Ross out and were howling at Gordon to sack him; but would consider his record a success for Lee Johnson now, just two years later. Can't build a business on that kind instability. He's thrown a ton of money in, he's spent it very badly, he's raising revenues, he's having to learn fast. Meanwhile Hibs are 8th, but we often are no matter who the owner/manager/players/fans are anyway. We had 27 years out of 29 of 'Farmer out' and a good 22 or so years of 'Petrie out'. Before that we had 'Duff out' and I'm old enough to remember both 'Waugh Out' and 'Hart Out'. It was in fanzines and pub talk back then though. So what's new pussycat? Out of interest how is this project to make Hibs financially independent of grumpy Hibs fans supposed to work and given that the last accounts are for the Covid Season how do you know whether they’re working. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel Logue Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Tommy Tappin said: ...Back in reality land though, business owners don't like making a loss unless they are looking to save tax and don't like the lack of social standing that owning a losing venture offers. Finally, Hibs are doing a roaring trade in a poor season Why? Because Gordon knows that the biggest gap he has to close is the revenue/profit gap between us and Aberdeen/Hearts. He's closed the biggest gap first. Hibs turnover 2020/2021 accounts: £8.5m Hearts turnover 2020/2021 accounts: £14.6m Aberdeen turnover 2021/2022 accounts: £13.8m (£11.07m 2020/2021) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Aye, I in no way care about football finances because it's solely the domain of dweebs and perverts, but Ron Gordon has absolutely not closed the financial gap on us. We just got 3 million or whatever it was for getting beefed by Fiorentina 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Tappin Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Out of interest how is this project to make Hibs financially independent of grumpy Hibs fans supposed to work and given that the last accounts are for the Covid Season how do you know whether they’re working. Excellent question. How would I know something like that? 19 minutes ago, Lionel Logue said: Hibs turnover 2020/2021 accounts: £8.5m Hearts turnover 2020/2021 accounts: £14.6m Aberdeen turnover 2021/2022 accounts: £13.8m (£11.07m 2020/2021) See how big the gap was. The catering deal alone has us £900k a year closer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Tappin Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, JamieThomas said: Aye, I in no way care about football finances because it's solely the domain of dweebs and perverts, but Ron Gordon has absolutely not closed the financial gap on us. We just got 3 million or whatever it was for getting beefed by Fiorentina Wrong accounting period. You're bailed out by Benny every year . Boosted by players sales and ongoing benefactors’ support, profit before tax of £1.7m was reported for the financial year, proving that is very much ‘business as usual’ at Tynecastle Park. 'Business as usual' = Needing handouts and player sales to turn a profit. Fine for now, but as Hearts have learned before, things go tits up once it's withdrawn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Cabbage Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Tommy Tappin said: You're still clueless. It seems to be too much to ask a fanbase to understand that a business can flourish while the product is minging. Anecdotal 'Ah'll never be back' bollocks has ruled the club's thinking for too long. Ron Gordon has made three major errors so far, appointing Maloney, Johnson and allowing his son to be in the firing line. He's already learnt from all three. Plus he owns the place, he can do what he wants. He knows what we know, our average finish in the top flight is 6.5th - call it 7th or where we've been hovering most recently since the start of Season 20-21. So if a league position equates to a clueless owner and leadership, that's all we've ever had; including 'clueless' Dempster/Lennon/Stubbs. Back in reality land though, business owners don't like making a loss unless they are looking to save tax and don't like the lack of social standing that owning a losing venture offers. Finally, Hibs are doing a roaring trade in a poor season Why? Because Gordon knows that the biggest gap he has to close is the revenue/profit gap between us and Aberdeen/Hearts. He's closed the biggest gap first. The fans don't know/care about any of that. For fans, (some) go to the matches, get home and call upon the Hibs fan social media template. It goes like this, play along at home if you like. GTF because of recruitment GTF because of where you're from GTF because of some team you used to play for GTF because your football is boring GTF because your interviews boring GTF because you're English GTF because if you don't sack xyz 'ahhhhhhhhh'mmmmmmmmmm never going back.' etc etc etc Gordon has quickly understood the need for Hibs to be financially independent of people whose opinions swing like this. Don't forget, most of us wanted Jack Ross out and were howling at Gordon to sack him; but would consider his record a success for Lee Johnson now, just two years later. Can't build a business on that kind instability. He's thrown a ton of money in, he's spent it very badly, he's raising revenues, he's having to learn fast. Meanwhile Hibs are 8th, but we often are no matter who the owner/manager/players/fans are anyway. We had 27 years out of 29 of 'Farmer out' and a good 22 or so years of 'Petrie out'. Before that we had 'Duff out' and I'm old enough to remember both 'Waugh Out' and 'Hart Out'. It was in fanzines and pub talk back then though. So what's new pussycat? It really sums up your level of knowledge when you suggest that I’m clueless for suggesting that we are currently “flourishing.” Hope you’re enjoyed your day today in the knowledge that the club is “flourishing” it sure seems it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Hope you're enjoying the level playing field, TT. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Is that Ron on here bleating on about his catering deal again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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