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30 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said:

You just know @Clown Job came into the thread with the intention of calling out perceived anti Irish comments before he’d read a word. 

And you know people came into the thread with the intention of defending them. 

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17 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

And you know people came into the thread with the intention of defending them. 

The problem is, when you clearly enter a discussion with a pre-determined agenda and respond to anyone disputing it with ‘oh look they’re defending it too!’ Then you’re not a great individual to engage with. 

I’m sure anti Irish bigotry in Scotland  is more prevalent than my lived experience growing up in Aberdeen but I won’t be choosing you to educate me on it. 

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6 hours ago, VincentGuerin said:

I've got no real issues with McGeady's decision to play for Ireland.

The SFA's own daft rule led him into the Irish system because he didn't play for his school team, despite having already played for the Scottish Schools team. Fucking farcical. - It's worth pointing out at this point that McGeady was already well-known as an outstanding prospect in youth circles and was already known to the SFA -That's classic SFA garbage, and it ultimately cost us a good player who they already knew about and who had represented Scotland. He went on to go to two Euros in a period where we went precisely nowhere. If you're angry at anyone, look at the SFA.

Once he was in the Irish system from a young age, it's perfectly understandable that he felt comfortable there and a sense of loyalty towards them. Not to mention his family links.

Add in that this was around the time that Ireland were a penalty shoot-out away from their second World Cup quarter-final in just over a decade and Scotland were drawing 2-2 with the Faroes and in a state of general shambles, I think it's perfectly understandable that Ireland looked the better career bet. Add in his roots in their system by that point and it would have been surprising had he chosen Scotland.

I do take issue with the nonsense interview he gave claiming that he took abuse from 'real Scotland supporters' as opposed to those in Glasgow who, according to him, tend to support Ireland or England. This is complete fucking nonsense. As is his daft comparison with the likes of Arfield and MacLean.

I can understand him having a bit of bitterness having taken loads of flack, but shite like that is just stupid.

Don't really have a problem with him playing for Ireland though. In context, it was fair enough.

That's far too reasonable a post for this discussion...

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Don't know why more people aren't pretending to be Irish, to be honest. I've lived over here for 6 years now and the quality of life is better than Scotland's by a factor of a gajillion. **** Scotland and all the fatty pie-munchers who sail in her.

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18 minutes ago, The Other Foot said:

Don't know why more people aren't pretending to be Irish, to be honest. I've lived over here for 6 years now and the quality of life is better than Scotland's by a factor of a gajillion. **** Scotland and all the fatty pie-munchers who sail in her.

Ireland has over twice the rate of adult obesity that Scotland does.

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19 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said:

Ireland has over twice the rate of adult obesity that Scotland does.

Oh well would you look at this, lads? Old John Bull thinks he can come over here from his Breetish city and give us all his big shiny facts. 

 

*spits on the floor* 

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10 hours ago, Clown Job said:

I have 

It’s horrible for both and neither should be accepted

Why do you keep bringing Asians in your pathetic attempts at claiming a right to be offended? My wife is Scottish Asian and both my kids are mixed race. I have not felt the need to mention that on here until you started trying to correlate the very real abuse that they have suffered in the past, with your determination to make out McGeady was racially abused, rather than just being a wee dick who chose Ireland over Scotland, because he’s a Celtic minded weirdo.

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said:

Why do you keep bringing Asians in your pathetic attempts at claiming a right to be offended? My wife is Scottish Asian and both my kids are mixed race. I have not felt the need to mention that on here until you started trying to correlate the very real abuse that they have suffered in the past, with your determination to make out McGeady was racially abused rather than just being a wee dick who chose Ireland over Scotland because he’s a Celtic minded weirdo.

Best post on the matter. 

Sorry about the abuse your kids have taken mate.  There's some narrow minded throbbers in this country.  I bet they feel as Scottish as anyone else and won't at first understand why people choose to give abuse. 

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38 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said:

Why do you keep bringing Asians in your pathetic attempts at claiming a right to be offended? My wife is Scottish Asian and both my kids are mixed race. I have not felt the need to mention that on here until you started trying to correlate the very real abuse that they have suffered in the past, with your determination to make out McGeady was racially abused rather than just being a wee dick who chose Ireland over Scotland because he’s a Celtic minded weirdo.

Using Asian Scots as an example of the hypocrisy of some

Never claimed to be offended either as I’m not, I’m more embarrassed about the attitudes from fellow Scots.

People with an Irish background have suffered some very real abuse, and continue to do so

McGeady has barely been back in Scotland for 5 minutes and you’re already seeing it starting up again 

The fact you seem to genuinely believe his choice to represent Ireland has anything to do with him being a Celtic fan is ridiculous 

Hes not wrong when he calls them small minded idiots who abuse him for it.

The chances are if he had any other background people would be quick to rightly call it out. 

Seems to be an issue in Scotland for some that you can’t be an Irish Scot, it really engages people. 

See this thread as a prime example 

Is it such a bad thing having a different cultural background?

Of course not

Its pathetic how riled some people get over it, although he probably made the right choice in hindsight 

The guy shouldn’t be getting abused because of his background, nobody should be.

It’s shite being abused for the way you look or because of your cultural background, I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone 

Edit: Anyways I think I’ve said everything I can on this subject over the last few pages 

Hopefully nobody will be telling the “plastic paddy to go home” while back in Scotland 

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5 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

Using Asian Scots as an example of the hypocrisy of some

Never claimed to be offended either as I’m not, I’m more embarrassed about the attitudes from fellow Scots.

People with an Irish background have suffered some very real abuse, and continue to do so

McGeady has barely been back in Scotland for 5 minutes and you’re already seeing it starting up again 

The fact you seem to genuinely believe his choice to represent Ireland has anything to do with him being a Celtic fan is ridiculous 

Hes not wrong when he calls them small minded idiots who abuse him for it.

The chances are if he had any other background people would be quick to rightly call it out. 

Seems to be an issue in Scotland for some that you can’t be an Irish Scot, it really engages people. 

See this thread as a prime example 

Is it such a bad thing having a different cultural background?

Of course not

Its pathetic how riled some people get over it, although he probably made the right choice in hindsight 

The guy shouldn’t be getting abused because of his background, nobody should be.

It’s shite being abused for the way you look or because of your cultural background, I wouldn’t wish it upon anyone 

Edit: Anyways I think I’ve said everything I can on this subject over the last few pages 

Hopefully nobody will be telling the “plastic paddy to go home” while back in Scotland 

Can you tell me about all the abuse James McCarthy has experienced since moving to Celtic? His circumstances similar to McGeady so assume he would have been getting it tight for the last 12 months?

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Its pathetic how riled some people get over it


The irony in this is unreal considering you've been the one who's been seething on this thread all day and yesterday.
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2 minutes ago, Sortmeout said:

Can you tell me about all the abuse James McCarthy has experienced since moving to Celtic? His circumstances similar to McGeady so assume he would have been getting it tight for the last 12 months?

McCarthy was abused when he was at Hamilton for it 

Hes barely been on the pitch for Celtic

I don’t see the relevance of what team they play for either

It shouldn’t be happening 

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7 minutes ago, Empty It said:


The irony in this is unreal considering you've been the one who's been seething on this thread all day and yesterday.

 

I’m not the one on here defending abusing a player for being a “plastic paddy” 

Its not worth the energy to get seething over small minded people 

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1 minute ago, Clown Job said:

McCarthy was abused when he was at Hamilton for it 

Hes barely been on the pitch for Celtic

I don’t see the relevance of what team they play for either

It shouldn’t be happening 

The team they play for doesn’t matter.

You’ve said it’s started with McGeady and he hasn’t played yet either. So please let me know the examples of it happening with McCarthy since he signed.

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9 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

Using Asian Scots as an example of the hypocrisy of some

Never claimed to be offended either as I’m not, I’m more embarrassed about the attitudes from fellow Scots.

People with an Irish background have suffered some very real abuse, and continue to do so

McGeady has barely been back in Scotland for 5 minutes and you’re already seeing it starting up again 

The fact you seem to genuinely believe his choice to represent Ireland has anything to do with him being a Celtic fan is ridiculous 

Hes not wrong when he calls them small minded idiots who abuse him for it.

The chances are if he had any other background people would be quick to rightly call it out. 

Seems to be an issue in Scotland for some that you can’t be an Irish Scot, it really engages people. 

See this thread as a prime example 

Is it such a bad thing having a different cultural background?

Of course not

Its pathetic how riled some people get over it, although he probably made the right choice in hindsight 

The guy shouldn’t be getting abused because of his background, nobody should be.

The only reason Aiden McGeady is getting any kind of negative comments from anyone right now, is because of his interview where he started trying to bum up the mini-Celtic stuff upon signing for Hibs.

The reason he got abuse from the stands the last time he was here, was because he chose to play for another country over that of his birth. Some dicks will have taken that on to the anti-Irish stuff, absolutely. That is uncalled for. That is not the reason most people think he is a dickhead though. 

The abuse he received from the stands is not comparable to the abuse people of South Asian appearance and nationality/ethnicity receive. Irish people have historically been treated abominably in the UK, and an element of that has been kept alive by the pathetic old firm bigotry bullshit that the vast majority of the rest of Scotland would like to see launches straight in to the sun.

He’s been back here five minutes and he’s trying to stoke the shite at Hibs, when from what I can gather most Hibs fans want nothing to do with that pish. Sadly we have an element of those bigots in our support. Hibs have a few resurfacing in recent seasons too, but the vast majority want nothing to do with been associated with either side of the old firm, I reckon.

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Just now, Sortmeout said:

The team they play for doesn’t matter.

You’ve said it’s started with McGeady and he hasn’t played yet either. So please let me know the examples of it happening with McCarthy since he signed.

The mental gymnastics from some to justify abusing players really is impressive 

If you feel the treatment is McGeady and others with his cultural background is acceptable and fair, not much I say here that’s going to change your mind now

 

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Just now, Clown Job said:

The mental gymnastics from some to justify abusing players really is impressive 

If you feel the treatment is McGeady and others with his cultural background is acceptable and fair, not much I say here that’s going to change your mind now

 

I haven’t said that anything like that is fair, all I’ve done is ask for, if it is the norm for players to be abused for their cultural background, examples of this happening to McCarthy in the last year as I would said it’s a really fair comparison with McGeady and I would say that it would then be fair for you to predict it will happen to him as it has McCarthy.

 

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