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2 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said:

Not sure I follow. You obviously know that Jack Ross is employing the tried and tested PR job with Porteous? Same PR job that Martin O’Neil did with Lennon, was used to protect Ricksen when he was getting a reputation for fouling, and more recently Brendan Rogers with “Brownie” and Gerrard with Morelos.

A player starts to get noticed for reckless and dangerous play, and a manager needs to react quickly, to try and divert opinion, so as to avoid that reputation hurting his team’s chances. That is what Ross is doing here. Seems fairly obvious to me.

Everyone loves a tough tackling  centre back or player until he plays against their team. Older Hearts fans still reminisce about Neil Berry breaking Paul Wright's leg almost 30 years ago. Gerrard was still trying to stamp on opponents in his mid thirties.

He was booked 5 times in 38 matches last season as part of the 3rd best defence in the league. Your mewlings about him have all the energy of a middle class mum complaining that her precious son might get hurt as there's a boy being too rough at the soft play.

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18 minutes ago, Namond Brice said:

Everyone loves a tough tackling  centre back or player until he plays against their team. Older Hearts fans still reminisce about Neil Berry breaking Paul Wright's leg almost 30 years ago. Gerrard was still trying to stamp on opponents in his mid thirties.

He was booked 5 times in 38 matches last season as part of the 3rd best defence in the league. Your mewlings about him have all the energy of a middle class mum complaining that her precious son might get hurt as there's a boy being too rough at the soft play.

I remember the Berry tackle you mention.

The point is, whether you or I agree with his style being acceptable or not, it has started to attract the attention of officials and the press. Ross is attempting to counter that, by backing his player, and trying to divert attention away from his on-field actions. You can surely see that? 

I’m not sure how I feel about the gentrification of the game in this regard to be honest. I get frustrated when officials ruin good games, especially derbies, with over officious performances. I actually agree with most Hibs supporters on their point about Rangers players getting away with similar challenges and not being punished. That’s where I am on the matter. Either gentrify the game, or allow a more robust style. Don’t make it one rule for one team, and another for the next.

For example, the OF commit 15 fouls on average before getting a card, for the rest it’s around six or seven. There needs to be blanket application of the rules.

For me, Porteous’ style goes beyond robust and edges in to dangerous. He needs to rein it in a bit. Some of his challenges are definitely dangerous to other players.

 

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6 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said:

 

For example, the OF commit 15 fouls on average before getting a card, for the rest it’s around six or seven. There needs to be blanket application of the rules.

 

Just in the context of this point made, I came across an interesting graphic. Granted it’s a smaller sample size than a full season, but some interesting results nonetheless.

 

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Enough of this pseudo analysis shite from the Orange Order brotherhood. 

Just so we can agree the subtext of JR article - 

Porto - good guy

Gerrard - w**k

Levein - w**k

Everyone happy?

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38 minutes ago, AJF said:

Just in the context of this point made, I came across an interesting graphic. Granted it’s a smaller sample size than a full season, but some interesting results nonetheless.

 

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“But Celtic!” 

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36 minutes ago, Leith Green said:

Enough of this pseudo analysis shite from the Orange Order brotherhood. 

Just so we can agree the subtext of JR article - 

Porto - good guy

Gerrard - w**k

Levein - w**k

Everyone happy?

Although I've only been here a short time. I can't help noticing that you are all over the board most days, and you don't really contribute an awful lot. Pretty much just snide digs at other posters and wee rants. Quite odd behaviour.

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22 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said:

Although I've only been here a short time. I can't help noticing that you are all over the board most days, and you don't really contribute an awful lot. Pretty much just snide digs at other posters and wee rants. Quite odd behaviour.

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1 hour ago, AJF said:

Just in the context of this point made, I came across an interesting graphic. Granted it’s a smaller sample size than a full season, but some interesting results nonetheless.

 

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Where's this data taken from?

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2 hours ago, Kyle Reese said:

The McPake comparison is 100% his habit of having to make last ditch lunges. Often a danger to the opponent on the receiving end.

 

 

Find me a last ditch lunge Ryan Porteous has made this season then

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14 minutes ago, Les Cabbage said:

Find me a last ditch lunge Ryan Porteous has made this season then

I wasn’t basing my opinion on the last <10 matches. 
 

Even the red at Ibrox is typical of his style of play. He didn’t need to go in the way he did. He could have stayed on his feed and made the tackle. He was obviously quite enjoying the reputation of being (in his mind) a bit of a hard man and a wind up merchant. Now that he’s getting pulled up by the officials, he doesn’t like it, and his gaffer is trying to take the spotlight off him. Don’t blame Ross for doing this, he needs to protect his players whenever possible. Porteous should help him out a bit, by reining it in. 

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16 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said:

He was obviously quite enjoying the reputation of being (in his mind) a bit of a hard man and a wind up merchant. 

 

I mean. I wouldn't fancy my own chances against him in a fistfight. Would you? 

 

He's a hard man AND a scholar. Your team have had plenty of the former, but I can't recall any of the latter. And a combination of the two? 

 

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28 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said:

I wasn’t basing my opinion on the last <10 matches. 
 

Even the red at Ibrox is typical of his style of play. He didn’t need to go in the way he did. He could have stayed on his feed and made the tackle. He was obviously quite enjoying the reputation of being (in his mind) a bit of a hard man and a wind up merchant. Now that he’s getting pulled up by the officials, he doesn’t like it, and his gaffer is trying to take the spotlight off him. Don’t blame Ross for doing this, he needs to protect his players whenever possible. Porteous should help him out a bit, by reining it in. 

It wasn’t a last ditch tackle though 😂, nor can I recall him making one for probably about 18 months or so.

You clearly don’t watch him and just enjoy articles written by the likes of The Fourth Official.

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1 minute ago, Les Cabbage said:

It wasn’t a last ditch tackle though 😂, nor can I recall him making one for probably about 18 months or so.

You clearly don’t watch him and just enjoy articles written by the likes of The Fourth Official.

I watch him in games against Hearts, and games that impact directly on Hearts. I usually catch the highlights of the other games too.

Again, you seem to keep chucking these time limits about. He is a niggly player who likes to act the hard man. There are a lot of elements to being that sort of a player. Last ditch lunges are one, but there’s plenty more besides. The point is though, as soon as it starts to get noticed, he’s away crying to Ross, to try and get the spotlight off him. 

If he was a real hard man, he’d just own it and put his hands up. He’s more in the Scott Brown mould however. 

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1 minute ago, Leith Green said:

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Chaps, you are being reeled in by this walloper

p.s. not the first time he has been on P&B I think?

His unique "style" reminds me of another one.

 

Is it the one who pretended to be a rocket scientist?

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