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I take no pleasure in the prospect of our neighbours going into administration.   We are all the Highlands and need as many clubs as possible to represent us.  Looking forward to the day we have Clach and Brora in the league along with Forres and Nairn, although suspect hell may be well and truly frozen by then!

Of course, if there is a fire sale, we will happily rehouse some of the better players....

 

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From the Mailonline article.

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'We have done all we can to steady the ship. We have no debt now, no soft loans any more, no bank debt and we own the stadium.

If that's true just set a sustainable budget and then there's only the money you lose this season to worry about - or am I missing something?

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I’ve heard (from someone who knows a lot more than me, and knows a little bit about the situation) that we’re not facing administration at the moment and that’s a fair bit away yet. Apparently they are genuinely just begging for money though, no guarantees of anything or proof of a sustainable setup, no structure and no real forward planning. Given our last few ‘boards’ I wouldn’t be surprised if we piss any money away again given out apparent lack of financial nous.

 

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6 minutes ago, btb said:

From the Mailonline article.

If that's true just set a sustainable budget and then there's only the money you lose this season to worry about - or am I missing something?

Thats what I would've thought would have been the correct thing to do.  We've only just hit October  and Robertson has already been given and spent the budget so seems strange to suddenly come out cap in hand now. Would've been better to have simply cut the budget to what they can afford at the start of the season.  They seem to have been helped a hell of a lot by the likes of Tulloch in the past and yet still seem to have problems financially.

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Thats what I would've thought would have been the correct thing to do.  We've only just hit October  and Robertson has already been given and spent the budget so seems strange to suddenly come out cap in hand now. Would've been better to have simply cut the budget to what they can afford at the start of the season. 


Does seem a bit strange tbh. We’ve not exactly spent big by any means but we’ve signed a few experienced players (Vincent, Keatings, Storey) and a few that we could probably get by without (Todorov, Curry, Carson) and we have a few youth players knocking on the door. So I reckon we could have maybe signed less and promoted the youth rather than end up in this situation.

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On 27/09/2019 at 12:41, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

By the way Savage has always been there, lurking in the shadows of Sutherland. Have there been signs of a Tulloch withdrawal ? I am far from keen on an Orion/McGregor family takeover but that may be an offer that we cant refuse. Could you imagine the financial return from two teams consolidated at the highest level ?

I heard that Savage has already ploughed a fortune into that house he's building just along from Nairn Golf Club and right on the bottom corner of Seabank Road.

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Hi guys,

Just to inform your supporters bus,  Hawkhill bowling club  Back hawkhill Avenue next to ground  two minute walk, is open from 12 for refreshments before the game also handy if you need to get your ticket before the game.

hot pies and bowling club prices.

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Am I missing something here or is this just the Caley board crying because they can't set a sustainable budget? How can you need cash so desperately if you have no debts?

Sounds exactly like the same shite the old Pars board tried to trot out on a regular basis; "We're no in the top flight and it's pure no fair!"

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Am I missing something here or is this just the Caley board crying because they can't set a sustainable budget? How can you need cash so desperately if you have no debts?
Sounds exactly like the same shite the old Pars board tried to trot out on a regular basis; "We're no in the top flight and it's pure no fair!"


To be honest I don’t think we can set out a sustainable budget as a full time club in this division, given the financial situation we were left in by our previous chairman. It’s always going to come with bad losses which is a shame because we were a very well run club up until the Kenny Cameron era.

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1 minute ago, Tarmo Kink said:

To be honest I don’t think we can set out a sustainable budget as a full time club in this division, given the financial situation we were left in by our previous chairman. It’s always going to come with bad losses which is a shame because we were a very well run club up until the Kenny Cameron era.

To set a sustainable budget would be a challenge, but to set a sustainable budget to recoup funds to cover any historical losses etc would be impractical or impossible as you rightly say maintaining full time football. It seems we suffered from speculating somewhat to gain or maintain success (and possibly more footfall), funding the 2014/15 cup run teams and thinking we should maintain that level, while the regime resulted in this backfiring as it managed to distance and fracture itself in terms of fan relationships, culminating in further drops in footfall.

But as said before if we need to cut costs and balance books then why sign the number of experienced players we did this summer then loan youths to FW. Is this a gamble to get the winfall of Premiership cash (which would never be guaranteed) or has there been a sudden change in finances/backing resulting in the shortfall and EGM being called?

For all the faults of previous boards, this one is not exempt from criticism either - remember the catering contracts and alleged nepotism? Who knows whether that was even awarded the best deal for the club. This is just what is in the public domain - who knows (yet) what other financial mismanagement there may have been going on (not stating there is or isn't).

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To set a sustainable budget would be a challenge, but to set a sustainable budget to recoup funds to cover any historical losses etc would be impractical or impossible as you rightly say maintaining full time football. It seems we suffered from speculating somewhat to gain or maintain success (and possibly more footfall), funding the 2014/15 cup run teams and thinking we should maintain that level, while the regime resulted in this backfiring as it managed to distance and fracture itself in terms of fan relationships, culminating in further drops in footfall.
But as said before if we need to cut costs and balance books then why sign the number of experienced players we did this summer then loan youths to FW. Is this a gamble to get the winfall of Premiership cash (which would never be guaranteed) or has there been a sudden change in finances/backing resulting in the shortfall and EGM being called?
For all the faults of previous boards, this one is not exempt from criticism either - remember the catering contracts and alleged nepotism? Who knows whether that was even awarded the best deal for the club. This is just what is in the public domain - who knows (yet) what other financial mismanagement there may have been going on (not stating there is or isn't).


The board and the club have been a shambles since the cup win. As far as I’m aware we didn’t have an abnormally large budget in the 2014/15 season which we won the cup, we were just lucky to have so many good players on low money at one time (Watkins, Christie, Tremarco etc) along with an established core that we’d managed to mostly retain. After the cup win everything went to shit with massive amounts of money being spunked between 2015 and 2017 on absolutely shite players like Lopez, Hughes, Fon Williams (who was only signed for money from the Euros), Mulraney (on a contract where his wages doubled after 2 years, gladly we got rid), Doumbouya and much more. 2 years after winning the cup, finishing 3rd and getting into Europe we were relegated with no money. Robbo had to sign every shite reject free agent out there in 2017 to even put a team out on the pitch. We have built a solid core of Championship level players now but we need to make a return on one of our players (probably Donaldson, McCart, MacGregor or someone like that). Those losses have set us back so much that we barely have the crowds, backing or funds to sustain an average Championship club.

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On 25/09/2019 at 15:56, PB1994 said:

We do need investment to maintain our current level but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a certain Orion Group owner becoming chairman in the next few weeks. This isn’t some ITK stuff just a pure guess.

Erm ,naw...you could try living within your means instead of running up annual losses of £800k.

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Scot Gardiner being involved in a football club that's being  financially mismanaged is absolute no surprise.

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Erm ,naw...you could try living within your means instead of running up annual losses of £800k.


We lived within our means for over 20 years until some stupid egomaniac chairman came in. That’s not the fault of any of our fans. We are currently living within our means also, but are suffering from the decisions of that chairman still.

Gardiner is also nothing to do with this. Nothing has changed since he came.

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How can you still have annual losses of £800k if that chairman isn't there? 

Where is that money going? 

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