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6 minutes ago, btb said:

From the Mailonline article.

If that's true just set a sustainable budget and then there's only the money you lose this season to worry about - or am I missing something?

Thats what I would've thought would have been the correct thing to do.  We've only just hit October  and Robertson has already been given and spent the budget so seems strange to suddenly come out cap in hand now. Would've been better to have simply cut the budget to what they can afford at the start of the season.  They seem to have been helped a hell of a lot by the likes of Tulloch in the past and yet still seem to have problems financially.

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Thats what I would've thought would have been the correct thing to do.  We've only just hit October  and Robertson has already been given and spent the budget so seems strange to suddenly come out cap in hand now. Would've been better to have simply cut the budget to what they can afford at the start of the season. 


Does seem a bit strange tbh. We’ve not exactly spent big by any means but we’ve signed a few experienced players (Vincent, Keatings, Storey) and a few that we could probably get by without (Todorov, Curry, Carson) and we have a few youth players knocking on the door. So I reckon we could have maybe signed less and promoted the youth rather than end up in this situation.
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On 27/09/2019 at 12:41, IMMORTAL HOWDEN ENDER said:

By the way Savage has always been there, lurking in the shadows of Sutherland. Have there been signs of a Tulloch withdrawal ? I am far from keen on an Orion/McGregor family takeover but that may be an offer that we cant refuse. Could you imagine the financial return from two teams consolidated at the highest level ?

I heard that Savage has already ploughed a fortune into that house he's building just along from Nairn Golf Club and right on the bottom corner of Seabank Road.

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Hi guys,

Just to inform your supporters bus,  Hawkhill bowling club  Back hawkhill Avenue next to ground  two minute walk, is open from 12 for refreshments before the game also handy if you need to get your ticket before the game.

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Am I missing something here or is this just the Caley board crying because they can't set a sustainable budget? How can you need cash so desperately if you have no debts?
Sounds exactly like the same shite the old Pars board tried to trot out on a regular basis; "We're no in the top flight and it's pure no fair!"


To be honest I don’t think we can set out a sustainable budget as a full time club in this division, given the financial situation we were left in by our previous chairman. It’s always going to come with bad losses which is a shame because we were a very well run club up until the Kenny Cameron era.
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1 minute ago, Tarmo Kink said:

To be honest I don’t think we can set out a sustainable budget as a full time club in this division, given the financial situation we were left in by our previous chairman. It’s always going to come with bad losses which is a shame because we were a very well run club up until the Kenny Cameron era.

To set a sustainable budget would be a challenge, but to set a sustainable budget to recoup funds to cover any historical losses etc would be impractical or impossible as you rightly say maintaining full time football. It seems we suffered from speculating somewhat to gain or maintain success (and possibly more footfall), funding the 2014/15 cup run teams and thinking we should maintain that level, while the regime resulted in this backfiring as it managed to distance and fracture itself in terms of fan relationships, culminating in further drops in footfall.

But as said before if we need to cut costs and balance books then why sign the number of experienced players we did this summer then loan youths to FW. Is this a gamble to get the winfall of Premiership cash (which would never be guaranteed) or has there been a sudden change in finances/backing resulting in the shortfall and EGM being called?

For all the faults of previous boards, this one is not exempt from criticism either - remember the catering contracts and alleged nepotism? Who knows whether that was even awarded the best deal for the club. This is just what is in the public domain - who knows (yet) what other financial mismanagement there may have been going on (not stating there is or isn't).

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To set a sustainable budget would be a challenge, but to set a sustainable budget to recoup funds to cover any historical losses etc would be impractical or impossible as you rightly say maintaining full time football. It seems we suffered from speculating somewhat to gain or maintain success (and possibly more footfall), funding the 2014/15 cup run teams and thinking we should maintain that level, while the regime resulted in this backfiring as it managed to distance and fracture itself in terms of fan relationships, culminating in further drops in footfall.
But as said before if we need to cut costs and balance books then why sign the number of experienced players we did this summer then loan youths to FW. Is this a gamble to get the winfall of Premiership cash (which would never be guaranteed) or has there been a sudden change in finances/backing resulting in the shortfall and EGM being called?
For all the faults of previous boards, this one is not exempt from criticism either - remember the catering contracts and alleged nepotism? Who knows whether that was even awarded the best deal for the club. This is just what is in the public domain - who knows (yet) what other financial mismanagement there may have been going on (not stating there is or isn't).


The board and the club have been a shambles since the cup win. As far as I’m aware we didn’t have an abnormally large budget in the 2014/15 season which we won the cup, we were just lucky to have so many good players on low money at one time (Watkins, Christie, Tremarco etc) along with an established core that we’d managed to mostly retain. After the cup win everything went to shit with massive amounts of money being spunked between 2015 and 2017 on absolutely shite players like Lopez, Hughes, Fon Williams (who was only signed for money from the Euros), Mulraney (on a contract where his wages doubled after 2 years, gladly we got rid), Doumbouya and much more. 2 years after winning the cup, finishing 3rd and getting into Europe we were relegated with no money. Robbo had to sign every shite reject free agent out there in 2017 to even put a team out on the pitch. We have built a solid core of Championship level players now but we need to make a return on one of our players (probably Donaldson, McCart, MacGregor or someone like that). Those losses have set us back so much that we barely have the crowds, backing or funds to sustain an average Championship club.
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On 25/09/2019 at 15:56, PB1994 said:

We do need investment to maintain our current level but I wouldn’t be surprised to see a certain Orion Group owner becoming chairman in the next few weeks. This isn’t some ITK stuff just a pure guess.

Erm ,naw...you could try living within your means instead of running up annual losses of £800k.

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Erm ,naw...you could try living within your means instead of running up annual losses of £800k.


We lived within our means for over 20 years until some stupid egomaniac chairman came in. That’s not the fault of any of our fans. We are currently living within our means also, but are suffering from the decisions of that chairman still.

Gardiner is also nothing to do with this. Nothing has changed since he came.
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Otherwise known as ‘cheating’ ala Dundee in the First Division under Callum ‘Clum’ Melville then.

I find it hard to believe that Inverness could somehow rack up a second consecutive £800k loss in this division as Scott Gardiner claims in his ‘won’t someone please think of the Highland children’ sob story to the BBC. If that is the case though then it would put a significant qualifier on John Robertson’s work as a manager, because if he’s been working with well over half a million pounds more than any comparable club by revenue or attendance then you’d expect nothing less than a strong playoff and promotion challenge to show for it.

Gardiner’s whining media intervention this evening is a major red flag IMO.


Typical wanky comment from this knobend. Morton of course, having been run in a completely unsustainable manner for years thanks to constant handouts from the sweetie maker, is all fine and dandy

The alarm bells started ringing in my head when Gardiner was appointed.

Good luck lads, hope it all works out.
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Scot Gardiner spoke well, if for a little too long, and it's clear that he's doing lots to connect to the community.

Not re-connect, actually connect.

The hot take from the meeting is that Project Brave is costing a fortune and on the face of it the overheads involved in running all the youth teams seems ridiculous.

Alan Savage turned up and asked how much of a bridging loan does the club need to see it through to the end of the season and the answer was £250k. Cash flow is a problem.

Ten years ago our turnover was £3.5M and last year it was £2M. Less money coming in and more needed to run the club. That about sums it up.

If you are a fan, turn up and support your team.

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How can you still have annual losses of £800k if that chairman isn't there? 
Where is that money going? 


Because that chairmans idiocy and heavy losses put us in this division, and we now have much less money coming in. We were trying to claw back the losses while running a Championship club on budget cuts year after year. The losses aren’t going to disappear unless we make big profits which just isn’t going to happen in the Championship for a club our size. We’re lucky we appointed a decent manager like Robbo who managed to put a team of rejects together into something decent. Had we ended up with a Foran/Yogi type manager we may already be in League 1 and part time/bankrupt.
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2 hours ago, Arch Stanton said:

Erm ,naw...you could try living within your means instead of running up annual losses of £800k.

Which wouldn’t be containing our current level, so yes we do need investment if we want to be going for the playoffs/promotion.

Not really seeing what your point is here?

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