FuzzyBear Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Procedures obviously not robust. Transferring £980k into 26 accounts is incredible - how could anyone think that was the right thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 This is the equivalent of me handing some random person on the street my car keys, letting them drive it away, and then suing Toyota for not having better anti-theft protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 You shouldn't laugh but, I am. Rather a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 "The bank is confident that there has been no breakdown in our security procedures in regards to this scam and that no unauthorised persons were able to gain access to any of the club's banking facilities."All payments were keyed and approved by the authorised user of the club's account."The bank contacted HAFC to question the transactions on two separate occasions and the customer instructed the bank to continue with the payments.In what way, shape or form are RBS liable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpma Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, C4mmy31 said: "The bank is confident that there has been no breakdown in our security procedures in regards to this scam and that no unauthorised persons were able to gain access to any of the club's banking facilities. "All payments were keyed and approved by the authorised user of the club's account. "The bank contacted HAFC to question the transactions on two separate occasions and the customer instructed the bank to continue with the payments. In what way, shape or form are RBS liable? I'm no legal expert, but I did watch That's Life religiously back in the day. Based on that and an extensive study of the rulings of Judge Judy, I'd say we're utterly fucked here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Litt Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Hardly RBS's fault that they've hired a fucking moron. Astonishing reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Louis Litt said: Hardly RBS's fault that they've hired a fucking moron. Astonishing reading. Moron is solely for the use of people of Dundee heritage, we have lost some money which was ours, your club went into administration for replicating the club that died in 2012 by spending money you didn't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said: Brutal reading. Worrying to hear Ronnie discussing Administration. If we enter administration we are finished, I'm not too Itk about the grounds for entering administration, but I think you need to owe money for this to be the case, according to the statements I have read the club has no debt, so that kind of contradicts Ronnie mentioning administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyBear Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 We will be in debt to Les and Ronnie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owsley Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Scotty Tunbridge said: I'm not, they were probably involved in it. If the club didn't employ crooks and wanna be gangsters like Colin McGowan this probably wouldn't have happened. They've fell for a vishing scam to do that in this day and age you deserve everything you get. If I could have given you ten likes I would have. Shady people who see nothing amiss in having a convicted fraudster and former gangster look after the interests of most of their young players. And he often sits in the directors box. I wouldn't give Accies, under these folk, the steam off my piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, FuzzyBear said: We will be in debt to Les and Ronnie. Ok so by entering administration, whichever company delivers that services priority is to accrue the best settlement with the debtors, if we have no money what is going to be offered 0 pence in the pound ? I have very limited knowledge of solvency matters but I don't think Ronnie would take us into administration to recoup little of his money, in the knowledge that if we do enter administration with no fluid cash the club will be liquidated. Our club has overcome many periods of financial uncertainty previously if Ronnie decides he can't sustain the personal loss he has underwent since the fraud then we as a club will experience the same fate as Clydebank & Gretna to name a few and disappear from the Scottish senior game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 hours ago, cilitbang said: I actually feel sorry for the employee responsible for falling for this, they have single handedly fucked Accies long dick style I have no sympathy at all, they're clearly a fucking idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyBear Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Clearly an idiot or now have a %age of £989k under their mattress. Stv's breakdown of what happened is barely believable. One member of staff has sole responsibility for all banking yet cheques over £1500 need 2 directors signatures. The whole thing stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Can’t believe a Clyde fan is in charge of authorising Hamilton’s bank account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, FuzzyBear said: Clearly an idiot or now have a %age of £989k under their mattress. Stv's breakdown of what happened is barely believable. One member of staff has sole responsibility for all banking yet cheques over £1500 need 2 directors sugnatures. The whole think stinks. This actually brings RBS's security into question, how can a cheque for over £1,500 require two signatures but the transfer of almost £1 million be achievable with 2 phone calls to 1 individual, this will undoubtedly be the club's line of thought for pressing ahead with the court case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Pundit Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 This actually brings RBS's security into question, how can a cheque for over £1,500 require two signatures but the transfer of almost £1 million be achievable with 2 phone calls to 1 individual, this will undoubtedly be the club's line of thought for pressing ahead with the court case. Err...because those will be the conditions of the bank mandate that Accies requested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyaccie Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, Mediocre Pundit said: Err...because those will be the conditions of the bank mandate that Accies requested? Not according to the statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Pundit Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I know who I’m more likely to believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 54 minutes ago, happyaccie said: I have very limited knowledge Should have stopped there tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebonce Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mediocre Pundit said: Err...because those will be the conditions of the bank mandate that Accies requested? The two-signature mandate for cheques probably preceded Hamilton going on to RBS's Bankline system. My firm uses Bankline. I've said it before on here but RBS offer plenty training on dealing with scams like vishing. It's astonishing that this has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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