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4 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Don't need to convince myself of anything. Had Aberdeen wanted to make Brophy their first choice striker, they'd have offered him a wage to befit that and we wouldn't have been in the same ballpark.

I don't think it should come as a shock to realise that we're willing to spend more on a first choice centre forward than Aberdeen will be on the same person but with the role of a squad player or backup to their main guy. 

Willingness to spend and ability to spend are different things. 

McInnes says he "didn't have the money to make people think differently" when losing out on players. Also referencing a club willing to "take a big risk" with handing someone a large contract, same as Davidson referenced.

It's quite clear you've spent large of Brophy, and that's fine. Quite how you've decided he wouldn't be first choice for McInnes (fucking Curtis Main is currently first choice) is baffling though, but presumably the only way you can convince yourself you've not overspent.

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3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

McInnes says he "didn't have the money to make people think differently" when losing out on players. Also referencing a club willing to "take a big risk" with handing someone a large contract, same as Davidson referenced.

It's quite clear you've spent large of Brophy, and that's fine. Quite how you've decided he wouldn't be first choice for McInnes (fucking Curtis Main is currently first choice) is baffling though, but presumably the only way you can convince yourself you've not overspent.

I've just offered up reasonings why we are seemingly outgunning historically bigger spending clubs. Now personally, if we are, then that's fine. The fact that we've turned consistent profit in the last 5 years and continue to be well run whilst clubs like Aberdeen are haemorrhaging money will have something to do with it.

No one is denying that we've spent large on Brophy. The narrative coming from some corners though is that we're spending more on him than Aberdeen and Hibs ever possibly could and that's something that is clearly bollocks.

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2 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

That's something that is clearly bollocks.

Based on your assumption he wouldn't be a regular starter for an Aberdeen side who regularly play two up front, and have Curtis Main as first choice this season.

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8 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Based on your assumption he wouldn't be a regular starter for an Aberdeen side who regularly play two up front, and have Curtis Main as first choice this season.

So we ARE spending more on him than Aberdeen and Hibs ever possibly could?

Thanks for clearing that up. :lol: 

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Just now, djchapsticks said:

So we ARE spending more on him than Aberdeen and Hibs ever possibly could?

Thanks for clearing that up. :lol: 

I believe you're paying as large a wage for him as anyone will be spending in the window, in Scotland.

Almost no club is increasing their wage spend for next season due to Covid, apart from St Mirren.

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3 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

I believe you're paying as large a wage for him as anyone will be spending in the window, in Scotland.

Almost no club is increasing their wage spend for next season due to Covid, apart from St Mirren.

Christ - and this is only the one striker.

The next one coming in is going to break you completely. 

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It's just part of the games managers play when they miss out on a player. Say they offered a good package but someone offered more, regardless of whether or not that's true. We've seen it countless times before and we'll seen it countless times again. Fairly sure we saw it from Goodwin with Jakubiak in the summer.

It's pretty obvious we were prepared to offer Brophy more than Aberdeen and Hibs were. Doesn't mean they couldn't offer more, just means they weren't willing to. If the two of them genuinely did make an offer, I'm quite surprised he chose us over them (regardless of the finances) as going from Killie to us, or vice-versa, is pretty much a sideways step in terms of his career.

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Just now, ulysses said:

I’d be telling Yogi to do one unless we are sending Sherron back to Fleetwood, we still need Sam Foley as cover for the centre back positions. 

We also need to hang around to see if Jake Doyle-Hayes extends his contract beyond the end of the season.

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7 hours ago, craigkillie said:

I'm sure it'll be in our accounts somewhere, but I have no idea. I'm not sure I'd agree about it deteriorating though - I think the stadium is still in pretty good shape. We did some renovations last summer with the new hospitality suite, the two standing sections and various murals.

Will away fans be able to stand?

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4 hours ago, Stu said:

Is JDH not under contract for the rest of the season? Can’t see us letting him go this month even if he agrees a move elsewhere.

Just like Brophy is under contract with Killie? If JDH insists he wants away, just like KIllie and most other Clubs, we'll let him go - like Broadfoot and Paul McGinn this time last year. Hopefully JDH will want to stay but I doubt we'll force him if he wants away.

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7 minutes ago, NorthBank said:

Just like Brophy is under contract with Killie? If JDH insists he wants away, just like KIllie and most other Clubs, we'll let him go - like Broadfoot and Paul McGinn this time last year. Hopefully JDH will want to stay but I doubt we'll force him if he wants away.

It's a slightly different situation imo. JDH has been happy here in his short spell and has been first name on the teamsheet. I don't think he'll down tools , even if he doesn't sign an extension , and I don't think we'll let him go before the summer !

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33 minutes ago, billyg said:

It's a slightly different situation imo. JDH has been happy here in his short spell and has been first name on the teamsheet. I don't think he'll down tools , even if he doesn't sign an extension , and I don't think we'll let him go before the summer !

Maybe. But if a Club he fancies offers us £50k and its a move he wants then I can see him going. Don't want him to of course - prefer he signs a 5 year deal - but I would not be too confident that if he signs a deal elsewhere that we can keep him.

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Hope JDH will sign the extension but imagine there will be teams looking to take him this month. Have we ever lost a player that quickly (without us punting them due to being shite?). We only managed to hold onto Adam Hammill for a month or two but think he only signed a very short term contract. 

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