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29 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Add me to the give Urminsky a chance club.

What's point of us taking 2 years to train the lad up and develop him if we're bringing in a loan keeper to jump the line?

Give him at least until the end of the transfer window and if he's not up to scratch, get a loan deal sorted late on.

Could not have put it any better. Urminsky deserves a chance. We have put a lot into this lad and at 23 he now needs to show his ability. Keepers thrive on confidence and this will give us the chance to see if he has what it takes. 

To be fair Carson looks a downgrade on Alnwick and Hladky. Perhaps Urminsky can emerge from the shadows. 

Give the boy a chance. 

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1 hour ago, djchapsticks said:

What's point of us taking 2 years to train the lad up and develop him if we're bringing in a loan keeper to jump the line?

It does seem to go against the "we'll give young players a chance" line we often hear.

Maybe Robinson just feels that it's a position where mistakes lose you games. Urminsky too much of a risk having played just a dozen or so pro games 3 levels below us. Erhahon was thrown in a few years ago that was at left back.

A penny for the thoughts of Jamie Langfield anyway...

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19 hours ago, Buttocks Brown said:

The Carson situation looks ominous. Knee scan....

He injured his knee playing for Motherwell in October '20. Was operated on and returned on Boxing Day only to damage it again in his second game back (a defeat to Killie the day before Robinson resigned). Didn't play again that season nor for Motherwell. His next appearance was in August '21 for Dundee Utd and he went onto play plenty of games last season.

Presuming that same knee is causing concern again now. Hope he gets good news.

Aye, it was a meniscus tear that Carson had. The implication was that he was rushed back early by Robinson and as you say he got through the 90 mins against United but broke down again after about 65 mins against Killie.

Though it's not directly related it's probably worth considering the amount of time he was out as a result of the DVT. Gillespie took his place and he pretty much spent the 19/20 season on the bench as a result.

At his peak for us, around 17/18 he was an exceptional goalkeeper.

Fwiw, as soon as Carson was injured in 20/21 Robinson went straight out to source a replacement. We ended up with something like 4 first team goalkeepers in that period - Carson (injured), Fox (injured), Chapman and Jordan Archer.

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A goalkeeper is a very specialised position and a bad one can relegate a team so I understand the trepidation of giving a young goalie an opportunity.

If Urminsky gets the nod then I’m fine with that. We have to see what he’s made of at some point.

If we go for a loan deal to cover us then I understand that too.

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I’m pretty sure Robinson will already know if he thinks Urminsky can ever be first choice! It’s not about giving him a chance!
 
Already KNOW if he THINKS says it all, he will have no idea until he gives him a go. Pointless putting years into developing a specialist position to basically pass him over at the first opportunity. He's 23, not 18, let's have a look especially given the names being banded about as a possible replacement.
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1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said:
1 hour ago, Captain Saintsible said:
I’m pretty sure Robinson will already know if he thinks Urminsky can ever be first choice! It’s not about giving him a chance!
 

Already KNOW if he THINKS says it all, he will have no idea until he gives him a go. Pointless putting years into developing a specialist position to basically pass him over at the first opportunity. He's 23, not 18, let's have a look especially given the names being banded about as a possible replacement.

He sees him every day in training! He’ll have seen him play in loads of games!

Just because you’ve not seen much of him doesn’t mean Robinson hasn’t!

Robinson will already know! 

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17 minutes ago, glenburn bud said:

Baccus at Ralston today I’m presuming he’ll be playing catch up in terms of match fitness. Will he get mins against Airdrie and the Edinburgh team. 

He only arrived in the country so probably a bit early to pitch straight in. 

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32 minutes ago, glenburn bud said:

Baccus at Ralston today I’m presuming he’ll be playing catch up in terms of match fitness. Will he get mins against Airdrie and the Edinburgh team. 

Depends how much the travelling has affected him, jet lag can be a pain in the arse.

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50 minutes ago, glenburn bud said:

Baccus at Ralston today I’m presuming he’ll be playing catch up in terms of match fitness. Will he get mins against Airdrie and the Edinburgh team. 

I'd imagine at very the very least, he will play some part on Saturday. I think the Airdrie games came a bit too early.

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28 minutes ago, smellthepaw said:

I'd imagine at very the very least, he will play some part on Saturday. I think the Airdrie games came a bit too early.

I’d be inclined to agree, give him one or two days to get to know the players and staff and a rest from traveling. Then a run out at some stage on Saturday.

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23 hours ago, Buttocks Brown said:

It does seem to go against the "we'll give young players a chance" line we often hear.

Maybe Robinson just feels that it's a position where mistakes lose you games. Urminsky too much of a risk having played just a dozen or so pro games 3 levels below us. Erhahon was thrown in a few years ago that was at left back.

A penny for the thoughts of Jamie Langfield anyway...

Langfield by all accounts is a very good coach, so hopefully his view of whether Urminsky is ready will be listened to. 

When we signed Carson, even though it looked like a good signing, i'd a worry about his injury and illness record. It looks like Lyness is well out the picture - i guess his performance v Motherwell towards the end of last season rightly or wrongly has led Robinson to the view he cant be relied upon to deputise for a prolonged period of time.

If we are bringing in a loan keeper, what about Scott Bain from Celtic rather than McCrorie? 

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3 hours ago, Coventry Saint said:

If we find ourselves 3-0 up with 20 to play then he might get some time Vs Airdrie, but otherwise, yeah, he'll be getting rested I reckon.

If we find ourselves 3-0 up with 20 to play, I might need a lie down and a stiff drink. 😀

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The club have announced that Reid has turned down the move to Celtic.

Lovely stuff.

St Mirren Football Club can confirm that last week it allowed Dylan Reid permission to speak to a fellow cinch Premiership club regarding a possible transfer.

We can now confirm that Dylan has turned down the opportunity to leave St Mirren at this point in time.

The St Mirren Youth Academy graduate became the youngest ever player to play for St Mirren, as well as the youngest ever Scottish Premiership player, when he made his debut for Saints at just 16 years and five days old in March 2021. He has since gone on to play for the first-team on five occasions - most recently as a substitution in our 2-0 win over Cowdenbeath on Saturday.

We are pleased that Dylan will remain at St Mirren and look forward to him continuing his development at the club.

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6 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Right. Get a contract under his nose ASAP. Stick a healthy release clause on it and give him substantial first team minutes this season.

This.

Based on a first choice middle three of Ethan, Baccus and O'Hara, Reid is probably vying with Flynn to be fourth choice. He should be getting plenty minutes this season.

(I haven't forgotten Kiltie, but he's only really a 10 and we're not playing that way.)

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