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1 minute ago, Coventry Saint said:

I wasn't calling you a muppet, nor was I disagreeing with you: I was just taking the piss out the fact you felt using a huge font would make your post more impactful.

Fair enough. Part of me hope some officials read this or BAWA. I mean, we're fan owned, so I like to think they might.

IMHO, we should get rid of him now, get a caretaker in - Langfield, Tony, whoever, someone who the players will respond to - and appoint a new manager in the summer.

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Just now, glenburn bud said:

I reckon a point at Perth would suffice, but only if we go with Greive or Brophy. Get Main so far to f**k.

We need to win to close the gap but CD will play his usual ultra defensive, looking for a 0-0, style all the way to penalties in the play off final. If you want Robinson out, we’re increasingly wanting Davidson out. Who will prevail in this battle of who hates their manager the most?

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3 minutes ago, glenburn bud said:

I reckon a point at Perth would suffice, but only if we go with Greive or Brophy. Get Main so far to f**k.

We're playing the worst five sides in the league, so rightfully we should expect something. Our last game will be at Pittodrie and, despite their poor form, I don't expect to get anything there. 

I was willing to give Robinson a chance, but the very fact he's sticking with Main makes me think he doesn't know what he's doing.

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8 minutes ago, andrewh said:

We need to win to close the gap but CD will play his usual ultra defensive, looking for a 0-0, style all the way to penalties in the play off final. If you want Robinson out, we’re increasingly wanting Davidson out. Who will prevail in this battle of who hates their manager the most?

At least yours won you two cups last season and got a draw in Istanbul against Galatasaray. If anyone's worth giving the benefit of the doubt it's Calum Davidson. Ours is a manager we 'poached' from Morecambe, who were then fourth from bottom in their division and has since overseen one win in nine. 

Anyway, most folk on here seem to want to keep Robinson. They're more enraged about the large font I used than Robinson's managerial performance... 🙄

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2 minutes ago, andrewh said:

We need to win to close the gap but CD will play his usual ultra defensive, looking for a 0-0, style all the way to penalties in the play off final. If you want Robinson out, we’re increasingly wanting Davidson out. Who will prevail in this battle of who hates their manager the most?

I don’t want Robinson to fail. I’m firmly of the opinion that he’s inherited a squad that was on a decent run of 8 games unbeaten, but they’ve just completely lost all momentum and capitulated in spectacular fashion. 

If we lose to you guys then our seriously intolerant fans will be screaming for him to be sacked. 

 

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Bad news for the Main haters but Brophy went off injured...,again.

When he has previously been injured he has missed several games. If that happens again then it leaves the club with only 2 strikers, Main and Grieve.

I assume we'll hear tomorrow about the injuries to Brophy and Tait and we have to hope they're not serious because we couldn't even fill the bench before yesterdays game (only 7 subs including 2 keepers).

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Smith said:

At least yours won you two cups last season and got a draw in Istanbul against Galatasaray. If anyone's worth giving the benefit of the doubt it's Calum Davidson. Ours is a manager we 'poached' from Morecambe, who were then fourth from bottom in their division and has since overseen one win in nine. 

Anyway, most folk on here seem to want to keep Robinson. They're more enraged about the large font I used than Robinson's managerial performance... 🙄

I feel your angst. I share it for my club. It’s infuriating.

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4 minutes ago, glenburn bud said:

I don’t want Robinson to fail. I’m firmly of the opinion that he’s inherited a squad that was on a decent run of 8 games unbeaten, but they’ve just completely lost all momentum and capitulated in spectacular fashion. 

If we lose to you guys then our seriously intolerant fans will be screaming for him to be sacked. 

 

This week will pass slowly but our respective fates will be closer in no time next Saturday. I’m not convinced we’re any better than your lot.

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A point more or less ends our involvement realistically. A 5 point swing in the last 3 matches will be too big for St. Johnstone to turn over.

That being said, our history in must win/must not lose matches and our record in Perth combines to give me the fear in this one.

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54 minutes ago, glenburn bud said:

I don’t want Robinson to fail. I’m firmly of the opinion that he’s inherited a squad that was on a decent run of 8 games unbeaten, but they’ve just completely lost all momentum and capitulated in spectacular fashion. 

Just like that, eh?!

It just happened to coincide with Robinson's appointment...but it's nothing more than bad luck

 

If we lose to you guys then our seriously intolerant fans will be screaming for him to be sacked. 

0.375 points per game. That's Robinson's record! It seems to me that you think tolerating failure is somehow noble.

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14 minutes ago, Mr. Smith said:

Just like that, eh?!

It just happened to coincide with Robinson's appointment...but it's nothing more than bad luck

 

 

 

0.375 points per game. That's Robinson's record! It seems to me that you think tolerating failure is somehow noble.

What are you suggesting? Sack the manager & assistant manager tomorrow morning? Who would you put in charge for the remaining four games? Don’t get me wrong, I think Robinson has been fcuking terrible so far on many levels - PR, engagement with the fans, post match interviews, team selection, tactics, substitutions, formations, and Curtis Main. I still don’t think we should sack him. Jim Goodwin and Jack Ross got off to dreadful starts with us. Goodwin at times actually looked drained, physically drained. Should we have sacked Goodwin and Ross after nine games? We just can’t act that way. Like it or not, we need to hope that between them, the management and players have enough about them to scrape survival. It might require blind faith, a prayer to your god of choice, or hoping a couple of other teams fcuk up their results too, but that’s where we are I’m afraid.

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7 minutes ago, pozbaird said:

What are you suggesting? Sack the manager & assistant manager tomorrow morning? Who would you put in charge for the remaining four games? Don’t get me wrong, I think Robinson has been fcuking terrible so far on many levels - PR, engagement with the fans, post match interviews, team selection, tactics, substitutions, formations, and Curtis Main. I still don’t think we should sack him. Jim Goodwin and Jack Ross got off to dreadful starts with us. Goodwin at times actually looked drained, physically drained. Should we have sacked Goodwin and Ross after nine games? We just can’t act that way. Like it or not, we need to hope that between them, the management and players have enough about them to scrape survival. It might require blind faith, a prayer to your god of choice, or hoping a couple of other teams fcuk up their results too, but that’s where we are I’m afraid.

I don't think the comparison with Goodwin or Jack Ross is a fair one. Jack had a woeful start but the team he inherited was awful, some of those lads wouldn't have got a game at the Racecourse. 

Goodwin came in and had to try and build a squad in a short space of time. 

Robinson took over a decent squad in a great run of form. We'd lost once in 11 games (at Ibrox). He's proceded to lost 8 out of 9. His tenure has been an unmitigated disaster. I've not called for him to be sacked but I think Saturday is the crunch. Lose to St Johnstone and his time is up for me. 

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2 minutes ago, pozbaird said:

What are you suggesting? Sack the manager & assistant manager tomorrow morning? Who would you put in charge for the remaining four games? Don’t get me wrong, I think Robinson has been fcuking terrible so far on many levels - PR, engagement with the fans, post match interviews, team selection, tactics, substitutions, formations, and Curtis Main. I still don’t think we should sack him. Jim Goodwin and Jack Ross got off to dreadful starts with us. Goodwin at times actually looked drained, physically drained. Should we have sacked Goodwin and Ross after nine games? We just can’t act that way. Like it or not, we need to hope that between them, the management and players have enough about them to scrape survival. It might require blind faith, a prayer to your god of choice, or hoping a couple of other teams fcuk up their results too, but that’s where we are I’m afraid.

That's exactly what I am suggesting, aye. I'd replace him with an interim management team consisting of Jamie Langfield, Tony Fitzpatrick, youth coaches, whoever is available.

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” - Einstein.

Enough's enough. If we lose on Saturday we have a demoralised team on a terrible run and with just two points separating us and St. Johnstone (who would have 3 wins from 5 games).

It's not working with Robinson. We might 'get lucky', but with an average of 0.375 points per game so far, the chances are not good. 

Here's the thing: if the players haven't responded well to Robinson and are worried about their future, getting shot of him now might give them the lift they need. Let's do it now! Give the interim management team five days to work with them. I think Fitzy would be up for it, and I think the players would respond well to them. Otherwise, get on your knees and pray "we come good" & "get some luck". With Main up front we'd need it. I'd genuinely play someone out of position (Henderson? Ronan?) or an emerging talent from the youth squad (assuming we can register them).

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11 minutes ago, Mr. Smith said:

 

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” - Einstein.

True. So why the f**k you suggesting Tony as interim manager? He was terrible twice 😂

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10 minutes ago, aldo_j said:

True. So why the f**k you suggesting Tony as interim manager? He was terrible twice 😂

As part of a team I think he could enthuse the lads and give them some confidence.

Ach, I give up. I know nothing will happen, and it seems even if we finish one point above St. Johnstone, that will be considered mission accomplished and we can give Robinson a budget to waste and get relegated next year. nine games is enough, IMHO. Any more and we're just squandering the opportunity to collect valuable points.

I'd truly love to be wrong about Robinson, btw, and I'll be there next season if we're in the Championship. But this is insane.

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There is a myth that we were a good side and Robinson has fecked it up. Look at the side before Christmas we were shocking and Goodwin was on a shaky peg. 

We got lucky with a change in tactics and some confidence.  Who is to say if Goodwin had stayed we would not have slid down the table. 

Goodwin has Aberdeen on a downer and their fans are not happy either. 

Changing a manager does not always bring instant success.  Lampard at Everton is another example. 

Robinson needs time. His own team and a pre-season. Our aim is to stick with it try get through and see where we go next season. 

I have see enough managers come and go we just need to hang in there. 

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You can moan about Robinson mentioning it as an excuse, but we've got f**k all players at the squad to give options right now, and that's on goody and the board.

Hard to be a tactical mastermind if you can only switch 2 or 3 things at most, and it's mostly like for like.

Combine our poor form with our easy to predict squad and formations, it's no wonder teams are tearing us apart at times.

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11 minutes ago, AW saint said:

There is a myth that we were a good side and Robinson has fecked it up. Look at the side before Christmas we were shocking and Goodwin was on a shaky peg. 

We got lucky with a change in tactics and some confidence.  Who is to say if Goodwin had stayed we would not have slid down the table.  

Goodwin has Aberdeen on a downer and their fans are not happy either. 

Changing a manager does not always bring instant success.  Lampard at Everton is another example. 

Robinson needs time. His own team and a pre-season. Our aim is to stick with it try get through and see where we go next season. 

I have see enough managers come and go we just need to hang in there. 

We might very well have slipped down the table but I'm certain we wouldn't have lost 8 out of 9 games with Goodwin in charge. 

I have some sympathy with Robinson, but I don't buy the 'this is on Goodwin' patter. We'd have been well clear of 11th had he stayed. 

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2 minutes ago, houston_bud said:

We might very well have slipped down the table but I'm certain we wouldn't have lost 8 out of 9 games with Goodwin in charge. 

I have some sympathy with Robinson, but I don't buy the 'this is on Goodwin' patter. We'd have been well clear of 11th had he stayed. 

You cannot say that for certain. We couldn't buy a win in the 11 games before Christmas. We work with what we have and go again. 

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