Norrie82 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Div said: Brophy is on a good bit more than £2.5K a week I believe. Not a clue how much Watt is on at Utd but I can't imagine it's a wage we could compete with on a longer term deal. No idea what the arrangement has been over the duration of the loan. I'm not totally convinced he's burned his bridges with Utd, there could be a route back into favour if Goodwin gets the gig there permanently. Either way we are set for a Summer of change again and that's just the way it is these days. I'd imagine we will see most if not all of the following moving on; Tait Shags Chilli D Tanser Flynn Henderson Jamieson Brophy Main Small and Watt will also return to their parent clubs at least initially. Richard Taylor and Caolan Boyd-Munce are also out of contract. Can't imagine we will be hard to deal with if anyone wants Olusanya either. So we could feasibly be looking at anything up to 13 departures! I think Tanser had another year 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Norrie82 said: I think Tanser had another year He does. I forgot all about the extension. I'd certainly not be too fussed to see him move on, he'll be a high earner and doesn't nearly contribute enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, houston_bud said: If Livingston get 7 figures for Nouble I will be astonished. He's a decent player and does offer something different but his goalscoring record must be worse than Main's and certainly worse than Ayunga's on minutes played. He would be a reasonable addition to the squad but absolutely not someone I would break the bank for. A fit (and I realise that's the problem) Eamon Brophy will score more goals than Joel Nouble. It'll be because he's not a striker to be fair, he plays at LW. His game is more about his hold up play, dragging the team up the park and taking guys on. I wouldn't be too surprised at 1m+, but apparently we're looking at 500k + adds ons + sell on %. Although I'd imagine that's based on us selling to an English Championship side. If it was someone up here we'd easily be asking for 1m+ as we'd be less likely to get a decent chunk on a sell on % in a few years. He's 100% gone in the summer though, there's already a management agency hawking him about on twitter talking about assisting him in getting his move. Hearts got laughed out of the place in January, as well as Michael Stewart for suggesting 150-200k was a 'big sum' to be paying for him. Edited April 27, 2023 by ATLIS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Munoz said: But still a million less than the Fermers took. Ours was spent plugging the massive hole not being able to host functions creates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Div Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 52 minutes ago, Norrie82 said: I think Tanser had another year Yeah sorry you are spot on with that. We definitely need another left wing back anyway. I wouldn't be averse to getting Small back for another season if we could, as I think there is potential there despite his brain fart at the weekend. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Div said: Yeah sorry you are spot on with that. We definitely need another left wing back anyway. I wouldn't be averse to getting Small back for another season if we could, as I think there is potential there despite his brain fart at the weekend. Got to disagree on that one. All I see is a big athlete. Don’t see a fitba player at all. His touch is phenomenally bad and his positional sense isn’t much better. Also, on your list of leavers, don’t you think we’re likely to lose Strain? I know he’s not out of contract but I still think he’ll be away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Got to disagree on that one. All I see is a big athlete. Don’t see a fitba player at all. His touch is phenomenally bad and his positional sense isn’t much better. Also, on your list of leavers, don’t you think we’re likely to lose Strain? I know he’s not out of contract but I still think he’ll be away. We need to tread the fine line though between selling on assets and absolutely decimating the squad. Baccus will still have his admirers even if his form has significantly dropped post world cup, as will Strain but we can't honestly just empty out what is a good thing. We need to retain the core of a strong squad and both Aussie guys are key to that. We should only sell if its genuine can't knock back money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) Our entire squad is made up of players we’ve signed from other clubs. Main and Dunne were signed from other clubs after being released. We lost Alnwick at end of last season and Erhahon during the season. Huge players for us. But we replaced them and moved on. Look at Livingston. They lose top players every season yet they keep outperforming bigger and richer clubs. Indeed, they’ve managed this success despite going through a wad of ‘managers’ as well. What really matters is the set up and style of play rather than individual players. I trust in Robinson’s style of play and he’ll find guys who will fit into that. Edited April 27, 2023 by Captain_Sensible 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share Posted April 27, 2023 Richard Taylor will be signing a new deal in the near future which I'm surprised about. He's been all sugar or all shite for us so I'm assuming that it will be as our backup left sided centre-half. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Div Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 9 hours ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Got to disagree on that one. All I see is a big athlete. Don’t see a fitba player at all. His touch is phenomenally bad and his positional sense isn’t much better. Also, on your list of leavers, don’t you think we’re likely to lose Strain? I know he’s not out of contract but I still think he’ll be away. I think he has potential, thought he showed up really well at times but he is very much still learning the game as we saw in plain sight on Saturday! Likes of Strain, Baccus and O'Hara will have their admirers but these are our prize assets and all under contract so if they are to move on it will be on our terms which is a different scenario than the others on the list. Every player has their price of course, and we'd be a bit naive to think there won't be a few nibbles at those three. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 10 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Ours was spent plugging the massive hole not being able to host functions creates. Is that your post-crematorium side line? Please look away if you don’t like dark humour. Spoiler That must have been a killer when Covid was at its peak and you couldn’t host any events. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 The danger with Baccus and Strain is that it's difficult to stand in a player's way. Say someone comes in and offers £500k - £750k for Baccus, I think most of us would be hoping for a fair bit higher. But if it's a decent club in the English Championship and they're offering to treble his wages then it is a slightly different story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 10 hours ago, djchapsticks said: We need to tread the fine line though between selling on assets and absolutely decimating the squad. Baccus will still have his admirers even if his form has significantly dropped post world cup, as will Strain but we can't honestly just empty out what is a good thing. We need to retain the core of a strong squad and both Aussie guys are key to that. We should only sell if its genuine can't knock back money. Baccus frankly hasn’t kicked a ball since the World Cup. Strain’s form seems to me to have been pretty consistent all season - barring time affected by injury. Baccus is a weird one because he certainly doesn’t look like he’s ‘downed tools’, or is unsettled, wanting away, or is displaying signs of Billy Big Baws syndrome… he’s just been very quiet to the point of almost being invisible. Prior to the World Cup however… I’m going to go out on a limb here and say if St Mirren said every one of the current first team squad are staying, I would be well pleased with that. As a group, over an entire season, there simply have been no wasters, no wastes of a wage, no failures. Would love to see us go again with this group and a couple of additions. It won’t happen, that’s fitba’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Baccus was dropped for the Buns game due to a persistent injury he picked up at the World Cup. Maybe a close season rest/treatment/operation will see him in fine fettle for next season. Am hoping Dundee Utd go down and we could sign Behich although that is unlikely on both counts. He would be a great asset as LWB. But we really need someone decent there. Don't think we have a hope in hell in keeping Small. Watt has been a disappointment for me - Brophy's only appearance for half a game at Livi was better than anything Watt has produced for us. Not fussed about Dunne and I reckon Ayunga can be a replacement for Main - big, physical, can hold the ball up and doesn't score many. Really hope Joe gets a new deal - he hasn't let us down in the limited game time he has been given. We will have the bulk of the current squad for next seasons and hopefully new additions will be a step up from those that leave. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishBhoy Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Being reported both Henderson and Jamieson have rejected contract offers? This might be an unpopular opinion but if we want to be a top 6 team again next season then I think we need to have a higher standard of player than those two. I know they came through the academy and it’s good to see them progress in to the first team, but if Henderson was an Inverness player would anyone be saying we should go out and sign him? He doesn’t really fit in to the tactics Robinson prefers either, and unless we turn him in to a wing back he won’t be starting many games. I believe now that we have offered them a contract we are entitled to a development fee so it’s possible that St Mirren have low-balled them for that reason. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Almost all the initial 1,000 tickets sold for Easter Road, asking for more tickets. Let’s hope we get them Hibs have only more or less sold out for the recent Hearts game and, oddly, a St Johnstone game back in Oct. They don’t sell out for OF games and have been under 17k for recent games not involving Hearts / OF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Pussy Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Captain_Sensible said: Almost all the initial 1,000 tickets sold for Easter Road, asking for more tickets. Let’s hope we get them Hibs have only more or less sold out for the recent Hearts game and, oddly, a St Johnstone game back in Oct. They don’t sell out for OF games and have been under 17k for recent games not involving Hearts / OF IIRC tickets for that game were heavily discounted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, Big Pussy said: IIRC tickets for that game were heavily discounted. £5 a ticket. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, IrishBhoy said: Being reported both Henderson and Jamieson have rejected contract offers? This might be an unpopular opinion but if we want to be a top 6 team again next season then I think we need to have a higher standard of player than those two. I know they came through the academy and it’s good to see them progress in to the first team, but if Henderson was an Inverness player would anyone be saying we should go out and sign him? He doesn’t really fit in to the tactics Robinson prefers either, and unless we turn him in to a wing back he won’t be starting many games. I believe now that we have offered them a contract we are entitled to a development fee so it’s possible that St Mirren have low-balled them for that reason. I think you're right about Jamieson sadly. If he was going to break into the team he'd have featured a lot more than he has since returning from going on loan. Robinson clearly prefers Offord and, whilst Jamieson did well in League 1 at Airdrie and Clyde, he didn't make much of an impact in the Championship at Inverness. Hopefully he can find a good club and get playing every week. Agreed that Henderson doesn't quite fit the current system but I still think he's showed enough (both playing for us and Inverness) that he's capable of making an impact. Maybe he'll churn out a MOTM performance at Hampden tomorrow and someone in the English League 1 will offer us a few quid. Edited April 28, 2023 by houston_bud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, IrishBhoy said: Being reported both Henderson and Jamieson have rejected contract offers? This might be an unpopular opinion but if we want to be a top 6 team again next season then I think we need to have a higher standard of player than those two. I know they came through the academy and it’s good to see them progress in to the first team, but if Henderson was an Inverness player would anyone be saying we should go out and sign him? He doesn’t really fit in to the tactics Robinson prefers either, and unless we turn him in to a wing back he won’t be starting many games. I believe now that we have offered them a contract we are entitled to a development fee so it’s possible that St Mirren have low-balled them for that reason. Wasn't that "offer" and subsequent rejection merely to do with any future development fee as opposed to us actually wanting to help them ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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