sergie's no1 fan Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Just now, Ric said: Just heard this stat on the radio, apparently Aberdeen have won just 3 of their last 28 away fixtures. I find that hard to believe but if true that puts out problems into perspective. I think they only really won in Perth until they beat Motherwell last week. It's like chalk and cheese with us though. We have restricted most teams in Paisley to limited chances this season, away from home our defence roll over and get their tummies tickled. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhame Buddie Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Hopefully Gallagher is fit for next week, but if not Shaughnessy needs to start. Our central defence looked miles off it today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 On 29/10/2022 at 17:14, AW saint said: Our away form is shocking. Simply not good enough. If anyone was watching Baccus etc they would have left after 10 minutes. We have been poor on the road so far, Tannadice apart, however 3 of the 4 defeats were at Aberdeen, Rangers and Hibs - we hardly ever win at any of those ground. St Johnstone was the only one where we might have been slight favourites. Once we've played at some of the other places where we might be more fancied would be a better time to judge. County away next week is important- type of game we have to win to hope to get into top 6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Hendo said: We have been poor on the road so far, Tannadice apart, however 3 of the 4 defeats were at Aberdeen, Rangers and Hibs - we hardly ever win at any of those ground. St Johnstone was the only one where we might have been slight favourites. Once we've played at some of the other places where we might be more fancied would be a better time to judge. County away next week is important- type of game we have to win to hope to get into top 6. County will beat us easily 3-0 they have pace all over the park and 4 or 5 really decent players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 County will beat us easily 3-0 they have pace all over the park and 4 or 5 really decent players.Yes their league position really reflects that analysis ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Yes their league position really reflects that analysis ! Our league position makes us look not bad but take us away from home and we are garbage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 13 hours ago, elvis said: County will beat us easily 3-0 they have pace all over the park and 4 or 5 really decent players. 25 minutes ago, elvis said: Our league position makes us look not bad but take us away from home and we are garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Gogic is not a centre back. It was painfully obvious on Saturday. Big Declan Gallagher is our main man in defence, without him starting then we should be playing Shaughnessy. Midfield were hopeless on Saturday too. When Ethan has a poor game it’s like playing with ten men. He doesn’t try to play himself into the game, he just disappears. It was a very poor performance all round. It’s a wee bit concerning to see Robbo changes personnel but won’t change formations when it’s not working. Teams have sussed how to play us away from home and it’s pretty much hard to watch us soaking up sustained pressure and giving up Possession for the majority of the game. It feels like we just invite relentless pressure, hoping we get lucky with a breakaway goal. On sat it never worked and we had no plan B. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Div Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 We've given away 6 penalties this season, the highest in the division by 2. H vs Motherwell - Handball A vs Aberdeen - Handball A vs St.Johnstone - Foul H vs Livingston - Handball A vs Rangers - Foul A vs Hibernian - Handball We've not rescued a single point after losing the first goal in a game. We've not lost a single point after going ahead in a game. So, all we need to do is score first and stop giving away penalties and we'll be Europa League bound. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, Div said: We've not rescued a single point after losing the first goal in a game. We've not lost a single point after going ahead in a game. So, all we need to do is score first and stop giving away penalties and we'll be Europa League bound. I agree, it's more of a first goal issue which goes back to when Robinson took over but I think we're stronger this season, the two late winners against Utd. & Livi after we lost the lead didn't happen last season. I think we're competitive in the division and that's all we can ask for in the top flight - 3 games to the WC in Qatar and then we can get some serious navel gazing done. Oh yeah and fuck international football, I'll never be watching it again. Edited November 1, 2022 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, glenburn bud said: Gogic is not a centre back. It was painfully obvious on Saturday. Big Declan Gallagher is our main man in defence, without him starting then we should be playing Shaughnessy. Midfield were hopeless on Saturday too. When Ethan has a poor game it’s like playing with ten men. He doesn’t try to play himself into the game, he just disappears. It was a very poor performance all round. It’s a wee bit concerning to see Robbo changes personnel but won’t change formations when it’s not working. Teams have sussed how to play us away from home and it’s pretty much hard to watch us soaking up sustained pressure and giving up Possession for the majority of the game. It feels like we just invite relentless pressure, hoping we get lucky with a breakaway goal. On sat it never worked and we had no plan B. Your bottom paragraph is spot on .you would think after losing 14 goals in four games he would change the system away from home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 Elvis makes an excellent point: if you take away all the games we have won this season, then our record is actually utter shit. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said: Elvis makes an excellent point: if you take away all the games we have won this season, then our record is actually utter shit. Don't try be a smart arse .If you think it's ok to keep playing like that away from home then your mental 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 20 hours ago, Div said: We've given away 6 penalties this season, the highest in the division by 2. We invite pressure and don't want to keep the ball so no real surprise we've given away so many penalties especially with the way the handball rule is now. I'm not sure of our identity away from home and what we are trying to do... Gallacher missing is a big blow for us defensively - does anyone know how long he is out for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 15 hours ago, elvis said: Don't try be a smart arse . Don't be a stupid fucker then and no-one will be a smart arse with you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Div Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 The away form is definitely a concern but we aren't alone in struggling on the road this season. County, Livingston, Dundee Utd, Kilmarnock and ourselves have amassed a grand total of 3 away wins between us so far this season from 29 attempts. Hearts, Aberdeen and Hibs only have 2 wins each on the road from 20 fixtures between them. Home advantage is obviously always a thing, but it seems to be very pronounced this season for whatever reason. We've had a tough run of games on the road as has been said but it's the manner of the defeats that has been the most concerning thing. Once we go a goal behind we just seem to capitulate. Playing two strikers away from home is a risky approach. Perhaps we need to be a bit more pragmatic? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 My biggest concern at Away games is we stand off the opposition and don't close them down giving them all the time they want to control the ball, look up and spot a pass. And when it was obvious on Saturday we were getting roasted down the left we didn't change tactics nor personnel but stuck with something that blatently wasn't working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Tait might need surgery. Dunne and Gallagher likely to be available for Saturday. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/9690712/st-mirren-richard-tait-surgery-stephen-robinson-injury-timeline/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Div Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, NorthBank said: My biggest concern at Away games is we stand off the opposition and don't close them down giving them all the time they want to control the ball, look up and spot a pass. And when it was obvious on Saturday we were getting roasted down the left we didn't change tactics nor personnel but stuck with something that blatently wasn't working. I do agree we got slaughtered on the left on Saturday, but we were without Tanser and Tait had not trained all week so mitigating circumstances I guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 2 hours ago, djchapsticks said: Don't be a stupid fucker then and no-one will be a smart arse with you. It's funny how when I point out we are shit away from home I'm a stupid fucker but when others basicly point out the exact same thing it's fine you fucking knob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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