pozbaird Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, aldo_j said: Agreed, no massive surprise on this. I guess that’s part of our ‘sell’ to players like McCarthy, McGrath, Baccus and Strain - we’ll give them a platform. I just wish our platform lasted longer than Kwarteng. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttocks Brown Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 hours ago, aldo_j said: Agreed, no massive surprise on this. I guess that’s part of our ‘sell’ to players like McCarthy, McGrath, Baccus and Strain - we’ll give them a platform. Yes. Also, means that we have fine players to watch every week. A good thing that they're coveted by other clubs. Can well remember the 90s and 00s when very few of our players fitted into that category. Since McGinn and McLean in the mid 10s we've had some pretty much every season, whether academy graduates or astute signings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Glansberg Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, AW saint said: Daily record trying to destabilise our club. If i was watching us for players Strain would be near the top. Best right back we have had in years They aren't trying to 'destabilise our club', there's no conspiracy. Good players tend to get noticed. Edited October 18, 2022 by Steven Glansberg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Steven Glansberg said: They aren't trying to 'destabilise our club', there's no conspiracy. Good players tend to get noticed. While I agree with the latter, the Record are well known for printing "mistruths" in order to affect a particular team. I don't think that is what is happening here, but don't dismiss the malign nature of the Record. Edit: ...and that goes for their politics as much as it does their sports reporting. Edited October 18, 2022 by Ric 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttocks Brown Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Some great footage here of the 87 celebrations: https://discover.bbcrewind.co.uk/asset/628547f04b0a950023598d45 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Steven Glansberg said: They aren't trying to 'destabilise our club', there's no conspiracy. Good players tend to get noticed. The post was tongue in cheek ffs. Given our good start to the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 48 minutes ago, Buttocks Brown said: Some great footage here of the 87 celebrations: https://discover.bbcrewind.co.uk/asset/628547f04b0a950023598d45 It's a weird thing, I don't really remember much of the game, and what I do I think is formed from seeing replays rather than created at the time. What I do remember though, was the pride walking down the road to the local park to join in with the 30 odd other kids who all showed up in the evening for a kick-about (this was pre-Internet, mind, hence the numbers). Bouncing my ball on the pavement as I made my way to the park with a big fucking grin on my face. That's the emotion I get when thinking about 87, not the game or even the score, but the aftermath and the pride. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellthepaw Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 20 hours ago, aldo_j said: Agreed, no massive surprise on this. I guess that’s part of our ‘sell’ to players like McCarthy, McGrath, Baccus and Strain - we’ll give them a platform. What is a realistic length of time after starting a new contract, to offer a player an extension? Baccus clearly is the real deal and will go on to a bigger platform, though would 3 months into the season look too premature? You leave it to the start of/first quarter of next calendar year and he could be leading into the final year of his contract. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, smellthepaw said: What is a realistic length of time after starting a new contract, to offer a player an extension? Baccus clearly is the real deal and will go on to a bigger platform, though would 3 months into the season look too premature? You leave it to the start of/first quarter of next calendar year and he could be leading into the final year of his contract. IMO, I think after the winter window closes, and he's still with us, that's when to enquire about an extension. The feedback you get then will define how you go into the Summer window. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellthepaw Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Ric said: IMO, I think after the winter window closes, and he's still with us, that's when to enquire about an extension. The feedback you get then will define how you go into the Summer window. Both Baccus and Strains profile could be boosted if they make the World Cup Squad to be shortly announced. Going by this predicted source, they can't see a place for them - https://www.sportingnews.com/au/soccer/news/socceroos-world-cup-squad-australia-projected-team-starting-side-qatar-2022/dptwzwcvvxcjasymaeujwn0n Regardless, they have been in the mix and that also counts for something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, smellthepaw said: Both Baccus and Strains profile could be boosted if they make the World Cup Squad to be shortly announced. Going by this predicted source, they can't see a place for them - https://www.sportingnews.com/au/soccer/news/socceroos-world-cup-squad-australia-projected-team-starting-side-qatar-2022/dptwzwcvvxcjasymaeujwn0n Regardless, they have been in the mix and that also counts for something. I'm guessing you are like me, and would like to see extensions for both irrespective of their appearances (or not) at the WC. I read the article and I'm guessing whoever wrote that is an Aussie so would know more than I would about the make up of the team, but neither Strain or Baccus look like having a difficult path to the national team. Time is the problem for both of them, no idea of the actual start date of the WC (I'm avoiding that sportswashing shit show, and I'm glad Scotland never qualified) but it's not long now, presumably. Thing is both players have a very good number of games played in their homeland, both hitting the 140 games over the last 4-5 years. Their quality should be known, it shouldn't take going half way around the world and playing in Scotland to confirm it. Baccus was involved in U20/U23 games (20 odd games) but Strain, other than his recent call up hasn't. It seems like a straight choice between Atkinson and Strain for that RB position. As for Baccus, I think it's more a case of waiting for an injury or drop of form, as the Aussie midfield is already pretty packed with experienced players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 If Strain and/or Baccus even consider signing a contract extension with us at the moment they need to sack their agent. They won't. Just like McGrath, McCarthy, Alnwick and all the others in the last few seasons their agents will rightly be telling them to do nothing as better offers than anything we can give them will be coming. In the unlikely event that these better offers don't come, they can always extend with us at a later date. The above three mentioned are currently all sitting on big EFL contracts on multiples of what our best offer could have been. It's those examples that attract players to a club like ours. These guys see us as a great viewing platform to get them exposure to the big money English market. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I hear Arsenal have stolen our "Obika!" chant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: I hear Arsenal have stolen our "Obika!" chant. Heard it during the Fulham game, too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 St Mirren face Stephen Robinson fight with boss a major contender for Northern Ireland job 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 54 minutes ago, Shuggie_Murray7 said: St Mirren face Stephen Robinson fight with boss a major contender for Northern Ireland job They can feck right off. Well i may have a different view after 4.45 tomorrow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 11 hours ago, AW saint said: They can feck right off. Well i may have a different view after 4.45 tomorrow Two weeks into the season I'd have been happy enough for Robinson to move on somewhere. Now I think it'd be a disaster. It would be a great move for him and I certainly wouldn't begrudge him it, but it would be nice to have bit of stability for a few seasons at least. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Shuggie_Murray7 said: St Mirren face Stephen Robinson fight with boss a major contender for Northern Ireland job That job is going to Tommy Wright. Unemployed, experience, continually touted for the job and the man himself has said it's a position he would love to take on. Edit: Should point out that this is in the Record, who just a few months ago was claiming a "scoop" that Robinson was about to be sacked. Edited October 22, 2022 by Ric 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Seems there's certain folk who are perfect for the job and fit the narrative, Robinson is a good page filler for the papers and I hope that continues as he must be doing a job to get there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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