ulysses Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Marcus Fraser can play right side of a back three. County seem to have pace in abundance, so our defence will need to at their best. The thought of Tait up against a speed merchant gives me the fear.I completely forgot about Fraser. Silly me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie06smfc Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 56 minutes ago, FTOF said: Unfortunately we absolutely need a creative midfielder and a midfield enforcer. We also need cover for CH as Dunne is pish and will be injured soon. Whoever, negotiated an extra year's option for Tait into his contract needs their balls toed. Giving Flynn another year falls into the aforementioned category too. Two positions that could have been filled with new, younger signings. Both Tait and Flynn new deals were crazy. Tait was done last season, Flynn barely played last season. If Tait had the option to extend the year then I can’t see why we couldn’t have done what Hibs did with McGinn. Robinson didn’t think he was worth the risk of an extra year when he was Motherwell yet someone at Saints has him down as worthy of up to 3 years. Flynn’s deal mixed in with coaching is nonsense - we haven’t the squad size to warrant ageing players a transitional year into coaching when they aren’t up to it. We’ll struggle this year, one or two injuries/suspensions severely weakens the team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, buddie06smfc said: Both Tait and Flynn new deals were crazy. Tait was done last season, Flynn barely played last season. If Tait had the option to extend the year then I can’t see why we couldn’t have done what Hibs did with McGinn. Robinson didn’t think he was worth the risk of an extra year when he was Motherwell yet someone at Saints has him down as worthy of up to 3 years. Flynn’s deal mixed in with coaching is nonsense - we haven’t the squad size to warrant ageing players a transitional year into coaching when they aren’t up to it. We’ll struggle this year, one or two injuries/suspensions severely weakens the team. That's not strictly true. We offered Tait a new deal in the January before the Covid hit. He rejected/stalled on it then once the league shut down decided he'd better take the deal but it was at a point at which we were restructuring our budgets as a result of the pandemic (understandably) and the original offer was no longer on the table. He was offered a revised deal with a coaching pathway included which again, he chose to reject. Motherwell's side of the story is here: https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2020/06/21/clarification-on-remarks-made-by-richard-tait/ Either way he was offered a new deal by Robinson. Edited August 7, 2022 by capt_oats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddie06smfc Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, capt_oats said: That's not strictly true. We offered Tait a new deal in the January before the Covid hit. He rejected/stalled on it then once the league shut down decided he'd better take the deal but it was at a point at which we were restructuring our budgets as a result of the pandemic (understandably) and the original offer was no longer on the table. He was offered a revised deal with a coaching pathway included which again, he chose to reject. Motherwell's side of the story is here: https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2020/06/21/clarification-on-remarks-made-by-richard-tait/ Either way he was offered a new deal by Robinson. I worded that poorly - I had it in my head he had a 1 year deal option at Motherwell versus 2 year at Saints. Now, this additional year on top of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I haven't seen many games this season, so yesterday may have been an exception. In the first twenty minutes, before Gallagher was sent off, I saw Erhahon fail to track back twice, give away a needless foul 20 yards out in a central position and pass the ball across the midfield directly to an Aberdeen player. That's what he did last season. I didn't see whether he improved or not, as I turned off after we went 2-0 down. We desperately need Gogic or someone like him. If I were Robinson, I'd be on my knees begging him to come back. Unfortunately, I think we've spunked the "Gogic signing fund" on signing Gallagher. Ethan has a great left foot and can pass. Defensively he is appaling. Fails to track back, doesn't close down and doesn't mark players. Looks lost when the opposition are attacking. I've seen an improvement in his work rate and attitude under Robinson but for a defensive midfielder he needs to learn how to defend (and tackle on his right side). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, buddie06smfc said: I worded that poorly - I had it in my head he had a 1 year deal option at Motherwell versus 2 year at Saints. Now, this additional year on top of it. Ah! I get you. Fair enough. What I would say is that at that point Tait had lost his place at RB to Liam Grimshaw and LB to Jake Carroll so it's a fair guess that it'd have been a reduced offer he'd have been made compared to his prior extension so your shout that we'd only have offered 1 year doesn't seem wide of the mark. Edited August 7, 2022 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, NorthBank said: 4 hours ago, FTOF said: I haven't seen many games this season, so yesterday may have been an exception. In the first twenty minutes, before Gallagher was sent off, I saw Erhahon fail to track back twice, give away a needless foul 20 yards out in a central position and pass the ball across the midfield directly to an Aberdeen player. That's what he did last season. I didn't see whether he improved or not, as I turned off after we went 2-0 down. We desperately need Gogic or someone like him. If I were Robinson, I'd be on my knees begging him to come back. Unfortunately, I think we've spunked the "Gogic signing fund" on signing Gallagher. Ethan has a great left foot and can pass. Defensively he is appaling. Fails to track back, doesn't close down and doesn't mark players. Looks lost when the opposition are attacking. I've seen an improvement in his work rate and attitude under Robinson but for a defensive midfielder he needs to learn how to defend (and tackle on his right side). That is just it I don't think he is a defensive midfielder. He looks a different player. He looks stronger and fitter. He is a natural centre mid player but not really defensive. His passing has improved and he links play well. We have too many similar players but no real dig or attacking options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, AW saint said: That is just it I don't think he is a defensive midfielder. He looks a different player. He looks stronger and fitter. He is a natural centre mid player but not really defensive. His passing has improved and he links play well. We have too many similar players but no real dig or attacking options. Baccus is a player who tackles and breaks up play, according to his stats from Australia. He also seems to be able to get forward too and put passes into the box. Although, yesterday's turn of events would have had limited that aspect of his play. I think he's a bit more subtle than a Gogic type player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born a saint Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 23 hours ago, AW saint said: That is just it I don't see anyone else being signed. Aberdeen have a massive budget compared to us. It showed today. That is why Goodwin left. We have no depth to our squad and no one capable of taking the game by the scruff of the neck. Our goalie looks a downgrade on Jak and Gogic leaves a massive whole in the middle of the park. If we stick with this squad and dont address the obvious we are in serious trouble. The old firm do behave like arseholes but our chairman has put our neutrality at stake with his irresponsible comments his position is untenable -7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Born a saint said: The old firm do behave like arseholes but our chairman has put our neutrality at stake with his irresponsible comments his position is untenable Why do you feel the need to bring up an issue that’s long done and dusted? He made a very public and unreserved apology. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddiesaint Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Signed up 3h ago to make that 1 specific post. Either he's super passionate about the long dead non-issue, or its a troll account. Either way, probably not worth your time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, Buddiesaint said: Signed up 3h ago to make that 1 specific post. Either he's super passionate about the long dead non-issue, or its a troll account. Either way, probably not worth your time. Definitely a troll account. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Sad times. A good write up with him being quite the Buddie. https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/pat-liney-1936-2022/ 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSaints1877 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Sad times. A good write up with him being quite the Buddie. https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/pat-liney-1936-2022/ Thanks for this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lola montez Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Sad times. A good write up with him being quite the Buddie. https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/pat-liney-1936-2022/ Played for his heroes 74 times and had 17 shut outs between 64 - 66 according to the former saints twitter page. RIP Pat, one of us and interesting story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 40 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Sad times. A good write up with him being quite the Buddie. https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/pat-liney-1936-2022/ That’s such a great story, guys like Pat were such great characters in the game. RIP buddie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Sad times. A good write up with him being quite the Buddie. https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/pat-liney-1936-2022/ Sounds like quite a character... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Liney was a proper lucky charm for St Mirren, asked for the day off from Dundee to watch the 1959 Cup triumph, and was in attendance for the 1987 and 2013 cup wins. Also described his debut for the club being the "best feeling in the world". Obviously a strong connection with us, but he truly was a Buddie for life. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/pat-been-st-mirrens-lucky-2538982 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Won’t be surprised to see at least 2 more incoming players possible loan deals 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 29/06/2022 at 13:49, Coventry Saint said: A new girl in my team at work is married to Conor Newton's best mate (I know, right?). Once I found this out I insisted on making her watch the Final goal. She couldn't have given less of a shit. However, it did emerge that her husband was also at the final in 2013 to support Conor so he's good people, in my book. Good story, Steve. Newton has just signed for South Shields, my local side. Think I'll need to head to a game with my glorious new away shirt on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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