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I was looking at it today, and it looks like we can possibly both finish top six.
Aye I did see that was possible but it's probably the most unlikely permutation.

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I assume you guys have all seen what Cammy Smith was up to yesterday?!
Yep. Cammy hates the ton

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We also need Dundee United to lose tomorrow.


United haven’t lost but they’re now out of it, realistically. The only way they finish top six is if St Johnstone don’t win, we lose, they beat Aberdeen and there’s a seven goal swing between them and us.
As in us losing 3-0 to Accies and them beating Aberdeen 4-0 or similar.
Livi could only get dragged into the race it they have a couple of heavy losses at home to Accies and Hibs, which also isn’t realistic.
It’s between us and St Johnstone. Simply put if they don’t beat County we’ve done it regardless of our result. If they beat County we need to beat Accies.

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1 hour ago, Lex said:

 


United haven’t lost but they’re now out of it, realistically. The only way they finish top six is if St Johnstone don’t win, we lose, they beat Aberdeen and there’s a seven goal swing between them and us.
As in us losing 3-0 to Accies and them beating Aberdeen 4-0 or similar.
Livi could only get dragged into the race it they have a couple of heavy losses at home to Accies and Hibs, which also isn’t realistic.
It’s between us and St Johnstone. Simply put if they don’t beat County we’ve done it regardless of our result. If they beat County we need to beat Accies.

 

Think I'll be going for a spot of insurance gambling when the time comes. Double chance Accies draw/win and St Johnstone win.

 

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On 03/03/2021 at 20:23, btb said:

My nightmare scenario is the Fakes winning their two games leaving us with the formality/banana skin of needing to beat Accies in game 33!

Always felt we'd end up in this scenario, still at least it's in our own hands...

Obika Day Minus 4our...

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I'm a lot happier that the farmers are playing County, who I'd wager are (at present) a harder opponent than Hamilton. Granted we are playing away from home, which I'm not sure is a benefit or not. After all we have a better away record this season (H: P17/W4 - A: P15/W6) but then it's also on that rotten pitch at NDP. We are definitely a better side than Hamilton, who've failed to beat us this season (1W/1D), and both teams have something to play for albeit ours is a bit more immediate.

Ideally Hamilton go and win at Livi come this Saturday, and County lose to Hibs. That'll give Hamilton some breathing room to Killie and leapfrog County, it'll also make County all the more determined to take points from the farmers.

Ultimately, though, it's in our own hands which is the pleasing thing. A win seals it no matter the results elsewhere and even if we don't, if we can match the result from Perth then "that'll do pig".

Like Goodwin himself, I think most Saints fan would have taken a one off game against Hamilton in order to secure a top 6 position, especially so considering how far away we are from the relegation battle.

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On 06/03/2021 at 18:39, GAD said:

We also need Dundee United to lose tomorrow.

My mistake. 

We basically need to beat Hamilton, or else we will be very lucky. We're capable, but Hamilton have now gone into that mode where they're very tough to beat. 

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It wouldn't surprise me if St Johnstone get top 6 and our season just fizzles out.

However given what's at stake for County and Hamilton, wouldn't be a surprise if all of the sides in the battle to be top 6 failed to win! 

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I'm not nervous of the Hamilton game you can tell how much the players want this. We will be in buoyant mood against a stuffy Hamilton.  

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Aye County are desperate for points for as well and arguably in better form than Accies. I think we just presume StJohnstone win though given their recent results.

In our own hands against Hamilton on the last game before the split, we'd all have been delighted if offered that a few months ago. Hopefully McGrath and JDH are fully match fit now.

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It wouldn't surprise me if St Johnstone get top 6 and our season just fizzles out.
However given what's at stake for County and Hamilton, wouldn't be a surprise if all of the sides in the battle to be top 6 failed to win! 


This is my worry also, I could see teams like Motherwell finishing above us if we didn’t get top 6. The financial rewards should be enough of an incentive, I’ve read on here you are c125k per placing, that’s an extra space or 2 on the wage bill per placing - not to be sniffed at!

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1 hour ago, flyingscot said:

It wouldn't surprise me if St Johnstone get top 6 and our season just fizzles out.

It would be hilarious to me if you lot finished 9th or something after all Goodwins bluster a month or so ago about striving to be the best you can be and how top 6 is the aim as "just surviving isn't enough for this club anymore".

You'll finish at least 6th though. Break until the next game will let you sort out injury issues etc.,  and you'll come out flying. County have been our bogey side over the last few seasons and we can't score at home, so we'll likely draw at best.

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Marcus Fraser and Jamie McGrath have been offered new cobtracts.
Jamie McGrath and Marcus Fraser St Mirren contract latest as club step up talks - Daily Record
I thought Tait was going to stroll the POTY awards at the start of the season, but gradually Marcus Fraser has improved week by week and now he is a standout, he's my player of the year at the moment.

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2 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said:
5 minutes ago, FTOF said:
Marcus Fraser and Jamie McGrath have been offered new cobtracts.
Jamie McGrath and Marcus Fraser St Mirren contract latest as club step up talks - Daily Record

I thought Tait was going to stroll the POTY awards at the start of the season, but gradually Marcus Fraser has improved week by week and now he is a standout, he's my player of the year at the moment.

Jak Alnwick for me, closely followed by Fraser. McCarthy has been great too.

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13 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

It would be hilarious to me if you lot finished 9th or something after all Goodwins bluster a month or so ago about striving to be the best you can be and how top 6 is the aim as "just surviving isn't enough for this club anymore".

You'll finish at least 6th though. Break until the next game will let you sort out injury issues etc.,  and you'll come out flying. County have been our bogey side over the last few seasons and we can't score at home, so we'll likely draw at best.

As much as it would be disappointing, given the shitshow we've been through this season, it's remarkable that we're anywhere near sixth place.

IMO without it, we'd have had the pipe and slippers out by now and be uncatchable in sixth place, at least. However, we aren't and the aforementioned shitshow isn't the only reason why we're requiring three points next week. even with our run of games in February and the injuries, we should have performed better.

What is making me the happiest is our situation off field. I was dubious regarding the Kibble's involvement. However, they seem to have added a layer of expertise and forward thinking, with regards to running a successful business, that we didn't have before.

We seem to be on a firm financial footing and have a management and coaching team who are firmly invested in the club. We've also started re-signing and signing players for next season, which normally we are scrabbling around doing at the end of the season at the earliest. We have a significant number of our better players signed up for next year already, although Erwin's 2 year contract might not have been the best move!:rolleyes:

That all adds up to bad news for our immediate competition for next season, but is great news for us.:)

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1 hour ago, sergie's no1 fan said:
1 hour ago, FTOF said:
Marcus Fraser and Jamie McGrath have been offered new cobtracts.
Jamie McGrath and Marcus Fraser St Mirren contract latest as club step up talks - Daily Record

I thought Tait was going to stroll the POTY awards at the start of the season, but gradually Marcus Fraser has improved week by week and now he is a standout, he's my player of the year at the moment.

Completely agree. He's really grown in confidence too, I'd say, and moves forward far better than I was expecting. I think he does pretty well on the right of a three.

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Fraser is too small, too slow and was continually putting in bad performances were the combined comments from County fans. The latter can be rectified and I'd wager it has - he's been a consistent performer, often excellent, rarely poor - but either Goodwin has mitigated the first two claims or they just weren't valid.

As for McGrath, he's been far better than most would have hoped, in what has been his first full season - and fair enough the Scottish league is a step up from LoI but it's not that much of a step up - he has looked a very shrewd acquisition by Goodwin.

I'm sure there is a willingness for them to sign extensions otherwise they wouldn't be offered them, and I really hope they do so quickly. If anything it gives us a little insurance when bigger clubs come sniffing around McGrath as I am absolutely sure they will.

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