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Big game on Wednesday, win and we put a bit of distance between us and County, lose and it becomes 7 games without a win and with the run of games coming up, Jim will be scrambling. 

Tough one to predict how we’ll line up with McCarthy and Shaughnessey both out. Thinking Tait drops into the back three and Millar plays RWB. Assuming Tanser’s out, McAllister on the other side.

Need to get Erhahon back in alongside Power too. Flynn’s been alright, but would rather him or Power rather than both in the same midfield.
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2 hours ago, Torfason said:

Big game on Wednesday, win and we put a bit of distance between us and County, lose and it becomes 7 games without a win and with the run of games coming up, Jim will be scrambling. 

Must win for me.

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Must win for me.


It’s not a must win of course. We could lose against County and finish in the top six. We could win and finish 12th.
Let’s save the must win game tag to post split - when that will be based on reality.
I do accept that not winning will result in a fair degree of meltdown from sections of our fan base. Which is fine.
I’ve certainly banged this drum before, but the system we are playing works, when one of the deep midfielders has legs.
Look at the winning goal away at LivI. Ethan wins the ball at the edge of the box and gives it to Ronan. Ten second later he has made lung bursting run up the pitch and he’s sticking the ball in the net and winning the game. That goal doesn’t happen if it’s Flynn and Power. Neither of those two have the legs to make that run.
If we play those two old heads together we lose or draw. If we want to win games with this system we need a deep midfielder in his 20’s who can run.
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16 minutes ago, Lex said:

 


It’s not a must win of course. We could lose against County and finish in the top six. We could win and finish 12th.
Let’s save the must win game tag to post split - when that will be based on reality.
I do accept that not winning will result in a fair degree of meltdown from sections of our fan base. Which is fine.
I’ve certainly banged this drum before, but the system we are playing works, when one of the deep midfielders has legs.
Look at the winning goal away at LivI. Ethan wins the ball at the edge of the box and gives it to Ronan. Ten second later he has made lung bursting run up the pitch and he’s sticking the ball in the net and winning the game. That goal doesn’t happen if it’s Flynn and Power. Neither of those two have the legs to make that run.
If we play those two old heads together we lose or draw. If we want to win games with this system we need a deep midfielder in his 20’s who can run.

 

We've had many games recently that if we'd taken advantage of our play, we would have been in a very comfortable place right now. Unfortunately, last season's trait of being unable to finish teams off when we have clearly been the better team is again costing us dearly. 

Obviously in the grand scale of things , the County game isn't a must win game- but I see it as a pivotal game.  Win, and we can look upwards again- lose,  and its going to be a long winter,  especially with our run of games coming up in December. 

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10 hours ago, aldo_j said:

Must win for Goodwin, not so much the club.

TBF, there were elements of fortune about our win at Dingwall, and I said at the time County were better than their league position. Doesn't surprise me at all that they've grabbed a couple of results now. 

If Jim doesn't start to get a tune out of us in the final third - especially with the resources we've got - then he's going to be in trouble by Xmas.

 

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I don’t think Jim will be in trouble by Xmas no matter what happens and I don’t think he should be.

He could help things however by ditching the ridiculous back three system that he seems to have embraced with the zeal of a convert.

Something that seems to get overlooked is the fact that our goals against is worse this season than ever before under Jim. I think this is down to the system rather than our defensive players not being good enough.

Oddly enough the defensive record is worse away from home where although we are playing better and creating chances in most games we have also conceded 2 or more goals in 6 out of 8 games.

We defend better at home but hardly create a chance let alone score and it is turgid to watch.

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2 minutes ago, Bastian Pigclimber said:

I don’t think Jim will be in trouble by Xmas no matter what happens and I don’t think he should be.

He could help things however by ditching the ridiculous back three system that he seems to have embraced with the zeal of a convert.

Something that seems to get overlooked is the fact that our goals against is worse this season than ever before under Jim. I think this is down to the system rather than our defensive players not being good enough.

Oddly enough the defensive record is worse away from home where although we are playing better and creating chances in most games we have also conceded 2 or more goals in 6 out of 8 games.

We defend better at home but hardly create a chance let alone score and it is turgid to watch.

Agree, if, and I don’t think it will happen, we end up relegated then he’d be out but if he keeps us up again I don’t see him under any threat, and I doubt the board will jump the gun with any decision. Too early to be thinking this negatively. 

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3 hours ago, Bgsaint said:

Agree, if, and I don’t think it will happen, we end up relegated then he’d be out but if he keeps us up again I don’t see him under any threat, and I doubt the board will jump the gun with any decision. Too early to be thinking this negatively. 

One thing I would add though is the brand of football we are playing. Eye bleeding football is a lot more palatable in mid table than if we are in a relegation fight.
Jim has been well supported financially and well rewarded personally and that brings a higher level of expectation. 

I don’t think we are there yet but I don’t think he is that bulletproof either.

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2 hours ago, Torfason said:

One thing I would add though is the brand of football we are playing. Eye bleeding football is a lot more palatable in mid table than if we are in a relegation fight.
Jim has been well supported financially and well rewarded personally and that brings a higher level of expectation. 

I don’t think we are there yet but I don’t think he is that bulletproof either.

We certainly weren't anywhere near "eye bleeding" yesterday.

At times we played some decent football.

 

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On 28/11/2021 at 09:49, Coventry Saint said:

TBF, there were elements of fortune about our win at Dingwall, and I said at the time County were better than their league position. Doesn't surprise me at all that they've grabbed a couple of results now. 

If Jim doesn't start to get a tune out of us in the final third - especially with the resources we've got - then he's going to be in trouble by Xmas.

 

Far too many games we’ve had to settle for a point, we don’t have a proper number 9 and don’t score goals. If something doesn’t change by Jan, then there’s no doubting we will be in another relegation scrap and Goodwin’s jacket will definitely be on a shoogly peg.

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1 hour ago, glenburn bud said:

Far too many games we’ve had to settle for a point, we don’t have a proper number 9 and don’t score goals. If something doesn’t change by Jan, then there’s no doubting we will be in another relegation scrap and Goodwin’s jacket will definitely be on a shoogly peg.

I think Brophy would work wide in front three - he works the channels well, and he likes to cut in and shoot, but he's not a pure number 9. To be fair, I remember folk saying much the same about Danny Mullen. Brophy definitely an upgrade on him, but suffers the same sort of problem.

I think we could get away with a 3-4-3, which is the way England play - the 4 being wing backs and a solid platform of two, and when McGrath goes I'd like to see us try it.

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