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5 minutes ago, Lex said:

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McGrath injury not as bad as feared it seemed, should be back after international break. Same post confirms Ethan is out for tomorrow and Tanser faces a late fitness test. Both have hamstring issues.

Doesn't sound as bad as it could have been. Blow to lose potentially 3 of our best players for tomorrow night, but it's a long season.

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16 minutes ago, Lex said:

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McGrath injury not as bad as feared it seemed, should be back after international break. Same post confirms Ethan is out for tomorrow and Tanser faces a late fitness test. Both have hamstring issues.

Did Ethan not go off with a hamstring issue in a game a couple weeks ago? Must be slightly more persistent than they thought.

Great news (relatively speaking) about McGrath, though. 

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Overall I'd say we have every reason to be quite happy with our first round of fixtures. We were robbed of a couple of perfectly fine goals in successive games earlier on, so when Jim talks about us being four points shy of where we deserve to be, that's probably what he's getting at. In all honesty, if we'd won those two games and were sitting on 18 points I'd be saying we're basically safe now; as it is, based on performances, personnel and levels of organisation, I'd say we're firmly on for mid table.

The obvious issues with our personnel and system in the opening few games have been resolved, partly with the arrival of Ronan and Millar, and partly with the slight tactical switch. It feels rough on the likes of Main, and perhaps even Dennis who now looks a million miles away from getting a game, but perhaps that's justice for his utter fuckwittery against Hearts.

Only Celtic have turned us over and actually looked streets ahead of us, and I'd argue that they were going to ruin us that day regardless of Power's red card. The only other defeats were to undefeated Hearts and the champions.

I'd give us a solid 6/10 after 11 games. If we emerge from the next 11 having only lost a further three games I'll be delighted, but we'll have Dundee, County, Motherwell and Livi at home, as well as an unconvincing Hibs side, so should be targeting at least four, possibly five, wins from the next round. We desperately need to get this 'Can't Beat a Jack Ross Team' monkey off our backs, so a home win vs Hibs would be wonderful, thanks.

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6 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said:

Overall I'd say we have every reason to be quite happy with our first round of fixtures. We were robbed of a couple of perfectly fine goals in successive games earlier on, so when Jim talks about us being four points shy of where we deserve to be, that's probably what he's getting at. In all honesty, if we'd won those two games and were sitting on 18 points I'd be saying we're basically safe now; as it is, based on performances, personnel and levels of organisation, I'd say we're firmly on for mid table.

The obvious issues with our personnel and system in the opening few games have been resolved, partly with the arrival of Ronan and Millar, and partly with the slight tactical switch. It feels rough on the likes of Main, and perhaps even Dennis who now looks a million miles away from getting a game, but perhaps that's justice for his utter fuckwittery against Hearts.

Only Celtic have turned us over and actually looked streets ahead of us, and I'd argue that they were going to ruin us that day regardless of Power's red card. The only other defeats were to undefeated Hearts and the champions.

I'd give us a solid 6/10 after 11 games. If we emerge from the next 11 having only lost a further three games I'll be delighted, but we'll have Dundee, County, Motherwell and Livi at home, as well as an unconvincing Hibs side, so should be targeting at least four, possibly five, wins from the next round. We desperately need to get this 'Can't Beat a Jack Ross Team' monkey off our backs, so a home win vs Hibs would be wonderful, thanks.

Agreed, although I'd say that warrants more than a 6/10.

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Agreed, although I'd say that warrants more than a 6/10.


Yep it’s our best start to a top flight season since the 80’s. We are in seventh and on 14 points.
For comparison after 11 games last year we had eight points and were in 11th - although we did have the COVID games in hand.
2011 was our second best start when we had 13 points after 11 games.
We certainly aren’t safe yet. Like all the mid table teams, we are a bad run away from being dragged into the dog fight. But Jim has turned us into a solid unit who don’t lose many games - just three defeats from 16 competitive matches - and all against bigger clubs with much bigger budgets.
For all the talk earlier this season about ‘not seeing where the goals will come from’ we have scored 12 goals in the last six games.
There’s cause to be cautiously optimistic.
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27 minutes ago, houston_bud said:

Agreed, although I'd say that warrants more than a 6/10.

Yeah, fair. Maybe a 6.5... ;) 

Brophy is starting to look like a bit of a revelation and easily our best striker since Thommo. Totally different type of player, of course. All the chat about him being a bit hit-and-hope totally did a mis-service to his all round game. What the Killie fans did say was that he needed the right people in and around him to get the best out of him. If Main isn't quite that guy*, Ronan and/or McGrath clearly are.

* Main has a big role to play this season, I'm convinced of it. I like the big guy.

7 minutes ago, Lex said:


We certainly aren’t safe yet. Like all the mid table teams, we are a bad run away from being dragged into the dog fight. 

 

Yep. I believe (but haven't checked) that we're on precisely the same points that Killie were after the first round last season. But we're decent; they were shite, so it'll be fine. County's result last night suggests it could be as cutthroat as ever down there. I expect Dundee to act on McPake sooner rather than later, but they've got a potentially good squad that the right manager could do decent work with. We're definitely better off out of the stramash. 

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I have to disagree about the Dundee squad. Its utter dug shit. No pace, past it superstars and possibly the worst set of defenders ever to grace the top flight. They should comfortably finish in a severely detached last place unless they get a new manager and 7 or 8 decent players in the transfer window, which is highly unlikely as I can't see Nelms firing the hapless James any time soon.

We really ought to smash them on Saturday

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I just love the spirit of the teams that Goodwin puts out. I saw we'd gone 2 down but I still thought we could well get something out of the game. That was despite the fact that we were away from home against a decent side with, arguably,  our best player missing. And so it came to pass. Can't think of many times over the years when I've had so much faith in a St Mirren side! 

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10 hours ago, Lex said:

 


Yep it’s our best start to a top flight season since the 80’s. We are in seventh and on 14 points.
For comparison after 11 games last year we had eight points and were in 11th - although we did have the COVID games in hand.
2011 was our second best start when we had 13 points after 11 games.
We certainly aren’t safe yet. Like all the mid table teams, we are a bad run away from being dragged into the dog fight. But Jim has turned us into a solid unit who don’t lose many games - just three defeats from 16 competitive matches - and all against bigger clubs with much bigger budgets.
For all the talk earlier this season about ‘not seeing where the goals will come from’ we have scored 12 goals in the last six games.
There’s cause to be cautiously optimistic.

 

Would need to check but fairly sure we had 14 points after the first round of games in 2006/07. Definitely had four wins as we won our opening two matches and beat the Edinburgh clubs. Would imagine there were a few draws too given Gus was in charge.

Cray it's taken us this long to match how we did in our first season up!

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16 minutes ago, Stu said:

Would need to check but fairly sure we had 14 points after the first round of games in 2006/07. Definitely had four wins as we won our opening two matches and beat the Edinburgh clubs. Would imagine there were a few draws too given Gus was in charge.

Cray it's taken us this long to match how we did in our first season up!

You are right, 4 wins, 2 draws and 5 defeats after 11 games that season. We then had a mid season slump that pulled us into the relegation battle, I think at one point we only won once in about 12 or 13 games, but did draw a few.

This team is much better than that one though, I think our current 14 points is less than we should have based on performances, only really let ourself down at Parkhead.

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8 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

Some laugh the amount of folk actually falling for that Joe Boden photo.

No excuses, fucking embarrassed with myself.

I'm just surprised ZingaliMan hasn’t posted it on here given the amount of shite he falls for.

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