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I doubt any of you will care at all.
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St Mirren fans...
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Not gonna even open that, I'm sure it's Main anyway.

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16 minutes ago, Slenderman said:

So what rejects can we look forward to?

Lee Erwin, Kyle McAllister for starters. ;) 

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1 minute ago, AberdeenBud said:

Not gonna even open that, I'm sure it's Main anyway. emoji23.pngemoji24.png

It was, but this ones not...

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2 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Sickening way to lose out but those are the breaks.

Simply put, we didn't do enough in the run of games in February where we turned so many potentially winnable fixtures into draws. We have the base of a good squad but there are fartoo many players in forward areas who are dead weight. Brophy of course is here next season and Dennis should be given his chance but it's time to say cheerio to guys like Obika, Erwin and Quaner who has been a total WTF signing. Others like McAllister and Flynn are probably done as well. Flynn through injuries and McAllister just isn't good enough. Connolly too can probably move on. He's explosive as f**k but you know within a minute of him being on whether he's going to be an asset or anonymous and it's usually the latter unfortunately.

Looking back further up the park, we have far too many central midfield options who are strong players but not attack-minded. The only definite attacking mid we have is McGrath. 

Erhahon, JDH, MacPherson, soon Dylan Reid (who by his own admission isn't that attacking and doesn't score enough, but I hope he means more in a John McGinn sense as that is what we need) will be staking his claim for a spot in that team too. Quite simply, that's too many to play the one role. So who gives in that regard?

We heard and saw a lot said about JDH but if I'm giving an honest appraisal, outwith the first 8 games where he was excellent and played as a sort of box-to-box type, he's not been very good. This doesn't mean he's not a very good player, quite the contrary but he's completely wasted sitting in front of the defence and knocking 5 or 6 yard sideways passes about. That one falls at the feet of Goodwin who has a technically very gifted player in his ranks and won't play him in a way that benefits him or the team. I can honestly say I wouldn't be bothered with JDH moving on if we insist on him sitting in from of the defence as he has much more than that to offer.

I'm satisfied that we don't need a full rebuild in the summer, nothing like it, and that's a bit of a rare position for us to be in but we're most definitely needing to say goodbye to 6 or 7 of that squad before loanees. We probably need minimum of 7 or 8 in as we ran very, very short in bodies this season and it cost us in February with that run of games we had.

Very fair assessment, JDH is particular is someone I would like to keep but he is not someone the club should push the boat out for financially. 
Watching Jim’s prematch interview you had a feeling it was going to come back and bite him, a bit of Jack Ross creeping in before he has actually achieved something. Hopefully he will learn from that and his bizarre substitutions today.

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3 minutes ago, Torfason said:

Very fair assessment, JDH is particular is someone I would like to keep but he is not someone the club should push the boat out for financially. 
Watching Jim’s prematch interview you had a feeling it was going to come back and bite him, a bit of Jack Ross creeping in before he has actually achieved something. Hopefully he will learn from that and his bizarre substitutions today.

You know for a fact that JDH is going to go somewhere and Aaron Mooy it. 

You can just see it. He's definitely good enough. But I'm not wanting us pushing the boat out to keep him if we insist ion playing him in the role we do. If we make him our highest paid player but have him playing as a sort of deep playmaker? Aye. That's his style but as a holding midfielder? Not for me - I'm astounded that Goodwin persists with him there. 

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Saw that coming a mile away, including the 2-goal swing 5 mins from the end. 

Safe for another season, and the basis of a decent squad already in place. Disappointed, but reasons to be optimistic

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Such a St Mirren way to end things. Saw it coming a mile away, as soon as the fakes scored. It’s the hope that kills you. Ho hum.
Still a successful season so onwards and upwards

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Sickening way to lose out but those are the breaks.
Simply put, we didn't do enough in the run of games in February where we turned so many potentially winnable fixtures into draws. We have the base of a good squad but there are fartoo many players in forward areas who are dead weight. Brophy of course is here next season and Dennis should be given his chance but it's time to say cheerio to guys like Obika, Erwin and Quaner who has been a total WTF signing. Others like McAllister and Flynn are probably done as well. Flynn through injuries and McAllister just isn't good enough. Connolly too can probably move on. He's explosive as f**k but you know within a minute of him being on whether he's going to be an asset or anonymous and it's usually the latter unfortunately.
Looking back further up the park, we have far too many central midfield options who are strong players but not attack-minded. The only definite attacking mid we have (who is actually good enough) is McGrath. 
Erhahon, JDH, MacPherson, soon Dylan Reid (who by his own admission isn't that attacking and doesn't score enough, but I hope he means more in a John McGinn sense as that is what we need) will be staking his claim for a spot in that team too. Quite simply, that's too many to play the one role. So who gives in that regard?
We heard and saw a lot said about JDH but if I'm giving an honest appraisal, outwith the first 8 games where he was excellent and played as a sort of box-to-box type, he's not been very good. This doesn't mean he's not a very good player, quite the contrary but he's completely wasted sitting in front of the defence and knocking 5 or 6 yard sideways passes about. That one falls at the feet of Goodwin who has a technically very gifted player in his ranks and won't play him in a way that benefits him or the team. I can honestly say I wouldn't be bothered with JDH moving on if we insist on him sitting in from of the defence as he has much more than that to offer.
I'm satisfied that we don't need a full rebuild in the summer, nothing like it, and that's a bit of a rare position for us to be in but we're most definitely needing to say goodbye to 6 or 7 of that squad before loanees. We probably need minimum of 7 or 8 in as we ran very, very short in bodies this season and it cost us in February with that run of games we had.
Aye , very fair and would agree with most of that Chappers.

For those out of contract I'd say;

Definitely Keep - Durmus , Fraser

On the Fence - JDH, Obika, Quaner. I'd maybe advocate keeping one of Obika or Quaner if we can get rid of Erwin.

Definitely Bin - Connolly, Flynn (for fitness/age reasons).


It also did take a pretty unforseeable sequence of events that lead to the squad being so being so depleted and us having such a huge number of games over a short period of time, I'd wary of spending too much of the budget on quantity not quality.

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22 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

Sickening way to lose out but those are the breaks.

Simply put, we didn't do enough in the run of games in February where we turned so many potentially winnable fixtures into draws. We have the base of a good squad but there are fartoo many players in forward areas who are dead weight. Brophy of course is here next season and Dennis should be given his chance but it's time to say cheerio to guys like Obika, Erwin and Quaner who has been a total WTF signing. Others like McAllister and Flynn are probably done as well. Flynn through injuries and McAllister just isn't good enough. Connolly too can probably move on. He's explosive as f**k but you know within a minute of him being on whether he's going to be an asset or anonymous and it's usually the latter unfortunately.

Looking back further up the park, we have far too many central midfield options who are strong players but not attack-minded. The only definite attacking mid we have (who is actually good enough) is McGrath. 

Erhahon, JDH, MacPherson, soon Dylan Reid (who by his own admission isn't that attacking and doesn't score enough, but I hope he means more in a John McGinn sense as that is what we need) will be staking his claim for a spot in that team too. Quite simply, that's too many to play the one role. So who gives in that regard?

We heard and saw a lot said about JDH but if I'm giving an honest appraisal, outwith the first 8 games where he was excellent and played as a sort of box-to-box type, he's not been very good. This doesn't mean he's not a very good player, quite the contrary but he's completely wasted sitting in front of the defence and knocking 5 or 6 yard sideways passes about. That one falls at the feet of Goodwin who has a technically very gifted player in his ranks and won't play him in a way that benefits him or the team. I can honestly say I wouldn't be bothered with JDH moving on if we insist on him sitting in from of the defence as he has much more than that to offer.

I'm satisfied that we don't need a full rebuild in the summer, nothing like it, and that's a bit of a rare position for us to be in but we're most definitely needing to say goodbye to 6 or 7 of that squad before loanees. We probably need minimum of 7 or 8 in as we ran very, very short in bodies this season and it cost us in February with that run of games we had.

I think some of this assessment is a bit harsh but most is absolutely spot on. I'd keep Flynn and maybe Obika for another year personally but we might have replacements on the radar already., Quaner, Erwin and McAllister can definitely go.

Doyle-Hayes has been awful since his injury, even taking into account that he's been played too deep. I do think Jim is better at spotting a player than actually knowing how to use them. Durmus being stuck at wing-back for weeks is another frustrating example.

Most importantly, United are hovering one point behind now so we absolutely need to refocus, screw the nut and secure 7th after the disappointment today.

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48 minutes ago, AberdeenBud said:

Aye , very fair and would agree with most of that Chappers.

For those out of contract I'd say;

Definitely Keep - Durmus , Fraser

On the Fence - JDH, Obika, Quaner. I'd maybe advocate keeping one of Obika or Quaner if we can get rid of Erwin.

Definitely Bin - Connolly, Flynn (for fitness/age reasons).


It also did take a pretty unforseeable sequence of events that lead to the squad being so being so depleted and us having such a huge number of games over a short period of time, I'd wary of spending too much of the budget on quantity not quality. We certainly fucked it up over the three 

Quaner - I'd let go as he's missed too many games - unless he get's something like a goal a game after the split.

JDH - As others have said I'm less inclined to blow the budget on him than three months ago, altho that's maybe down to being played out of position..

Flynn - Versatile and altho' we're not likely to get 30+ games from him I'd be inclined to offer him a 1 year deal.

Obika - I'd be inclined to offer him a deal on the basis "There's no guarantee we'll get better"...

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We shot ourselves in both feet over Covid, first the three keepers in September and then the postponed matches in October which came back to haunt us in February but as they say if yer aunty had balls....

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The remaining fixtures should be...

Hamilton, DU at home

Kilmarnock, Motherwell and RC away.

However, given that time we had to play Falkirk away 3 times, who knows.

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5 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said:

Stubbs is busy covering himself in glory on Twitter.

 

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Tbf if you're giving it out you have to expect some back.

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Aye. It's the equivalent of a player getting dog's abuse and then that player scoring and winding up those same supporters. You've got it coming folks.

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Yeah if you're gonna tag him in like a weirdo you can't really complain tbh.

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