The St. Mirren FC 2023/24 thread

[AW saint]

44 minutes ago, Buttocks Brown said:

If it happened you wonder what we would actually do with £4,000,000....

Obviously the manager's budget would increase a bit but might we see a big, structural project around the stadium or training ground e.g. safe standing?

The board must have had the "what if..." discussion you would think.

Spend it on bringing back Lee Irwin

[jm1]

1 hour ago, Buttocks Brown said:

If it happened you wonder what we would actually do with £4,000,000....

Obviously the manager's budget would increase a bit but might we see a big, structural project around the stadium or training ground e.g. safe standing?

The board must have had the "what if..." discussion you would think.

Bring back Josh Heaton. He must be worth a few million by now. 

[Coventry Saint]

I think McGinn would be an excellent fit at Newcastle. I could well imagine them showing interest. They'll need some steel and Premier League experience to provide balance to whoever else they're bringing in this summer.

[Arch Stanton]

1 hour ago, Buttocks Brown said:

If it happened you wonder what we would actually do with £4,000,000....

Obviously the manager's budget would increase a bit but might we see a big, structural project around the stadium or training ground e.g. safe standing?

The board must have had the "what if..." discussion you would think.

IIRC the club own the land across the road from the North Stand. Perfect place to build an indoor full size pitch. There would be grants available and whatever money Saints put in would be recovered within a few years from renting it out.

[Doctor Sanchez]

2 hours ago, Buttocks Brown said:

If it happened you wonder what we would actually do with £4,000,000....

Free beans forever with every pie bought...  

[djchapsticks]

2 hours ago, Buttocks Brown said:

If it happened you wonder what we would actually do with £4,000,000....

Obviously the manager's budget would increase a bit but might we see a big, structural project around the stadium or training ground e.g. safe standing?

The board must have had the "what if..." discussion you would think.

My thoughts would be to perhaps install a safe standing area in W7, and as AS said, probably an indoor all weather pitch. The dome is surely approaching the end of it's life cycle - I'd love to know what sort of monetary return it has provided in the time it's been up and whether it would be worth the while replacing that too.

[Lex]

I'd honestly avoid all players with a past history of missing significant numbers of games.  It's like paying a player double salary.  Charles Dunne as an example. 

Yeah no interest in perma diddies like Allen and McGeouch.
Let’s sign hungry unproven youngsters instead. Might work, might not.
Better to buy a ticket than settle.

[Lex]

Think that’s the third summer in a row (might be the fourth) that we’ve maybe had a mega windfall from McGinn incoming.
Will believe it when I see it. He’s not had a great season by any measure, Villa looks about his level.

[djchapsticks]

Aside from the infrastructure side of investment, we should definitely be putting more money into youth development and initiatives similar to the street stuff classes. 

The next several generations of youngsters in Scotland are going to be from a very broad scope of ethnicities and backgrounds and many young kids right now are the first generation whose parents have come here and perhaps aren't aware of opportunities and community initiatives available or perhaps feel that it's simply outwith the financial reach. We should definitely be casting the net far and wide across the area to give as many kids from struggling backgrounds that opportunity to feel part of a team, part of what might be a new community to them as we possibly can.

Of course, some money should be invested in the playing squad but I'd say that would be a better legacy to have as a community club than just increasing the budget and buying 6 extra players on pumped up wages.

[Archie McSquackle]

Mutterings of Villa wanting £50m for him. 15% of profit to Hibs, who give us a third.
We'd then get another 3.5% of the total transfer as development fee, Hibs get an additional 1.5% as they had him between 21-22.
Means on a £50m transfer, Hibs would be getting 15% of £47m (minus the three Villa paid for him) = £7m and passing us around £2.32m of that
In addition, they'd get another £750k development fee and we'd bag £1.75m
So nearly £5.5m for Hibs and a touch over £4m for us in total.

Fair play to you if you get a decent chunk from a sell-on but do development fees really still apply to 27 year olds?

[capt_oats]

4 minutes ago, Archie McSquackle said:

Fair play to you if you get a decent chunk from a sell-on but do development fees really still apply to 27 year olds?

It's a "solidarity fee" rather than development compensation.

Basically, as @djchapsticks says, 5% of any fee between clubs for a player is witheld and distributed pro-rata between the training clubs.

[djchapsticks]

6 hours ago, Archie McSquackle said:

11 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

Mutterings of Villa wanting £50m for him. 15% of profit to Hibs, who give us a third.
We'd then get another 3.5% of the total transfer as development fee, Hibs get an additional 1.5% as they had him between 21-22.
Means on a £50m transfer, Hibs would be getting 15% of £47m (minus the three Villa paid for him) = £7m and passing us around £2.32m of that
In addition, they'd get another £750k development fee and we'd bag £1.75m
So nearly £5.5m for Hibs and a touch over £4m for us in total.

Fair play to you if you get a decent chunk from a sell-on but do development fees really still apply to 27 year olds?

 

6 hours ago, capt_oats said:

It's a "solidarity fee" rather than development compensation.

Basically, as @djchapsticks says, 5% of any fee between clubs for a player is witheld and distributed pro-rata between the training clubs.

Exactly this. I've just probably mislabelled it.

It carries throughout a players career though. I suppose not much of it is made up here as the players developed in Scotland have historically not generated large enough transfer fees for that 5% to represent a significant amount. 

[kilMARKnock]

So gents, how poor or brilliant was Power last season?

[craigkillie]

On 12/02/2022 at 20:32, Lex said:

Hi Killie fans,
Hope you’re well? How’s life in the Championship?
As St Mirren fans we’ve been really enjoying the performances of Kiltie, Brophy (when fit), Power and Jones at the SMISA stadium in Paisley recently.
Not sure if you’ve been following us, but to summarise, we are one of the form teams in the country. Currently sitting top six and in the quarters of the cup. In no small thanks to the performances of the aforementioned players
Anyway, back to the point of the note.
Just wondering if there were any other Killie players we as St Mirren fans should be keeping an eye on?
We know Rugby Park is a great finishing school for future talent headed to the SMISA stadium, so any heads up in the meantime would be appreciated.
You can post your tips in here or the St Mirren thread (that’s in the Premiership forum).
Thanks again.

And we'll take them back whenever we want.

How did the cup run and top six push go?

[jm1]

We're interested in defensive midfielder Matt Butcher apparently. Don't remember him from his loan spell at St Johnstone a couple of years ago.

[RandomGuy.]

2 minutes ago, jm1 said:

We're interested in defensive midfielder Matt Butcher apparently. Don't remember him from his loan spell at St Johnstone a couple of years ago.

He's class, and massive, and I'll be fucking seething if you lot have enjoyed Doyle-Hayes and him while we deal with fucking shit like Butterfield and MacPherson.

[Mainstand Sweary Mob]

We're interested in defensive midfielder Matt Butcher apparently. Don't remember him from his loan spell at St Johnstone a couple of years ago. [emoji2369]

This Robo looking to get stuff early in case Gogic doesn't sign or looking to potentially having both?

[flyingscot]

1 hour ago, kilMARKnock said:

So gents, how poor or brilliant was Power last season?

He wasn't bad, but kinda felt he was past his best at Premiership level. Certainly nowhere near as good as Gogic. 

[djchapsticks]

1 hour ago, Mainstand Sweary Mob said:

1 hour ago, jm1 said:

We're interested in defensive midfielder Matt Butcher apparently. Don't remember him from his loan spell at St Johnstone a couple of years ago.

This Robo looking to get stuff early in case Gogic doesn't sign or looking to potentially having both?

We're clearly looking at Gogic and another given that this is the 3rd defensive mid we've been linked with and have signed O'Hara and Baccus already.

Might suggest there's more than just paper talk on the Erhahon and Reid rumours.

[djchapsticks]

1 hour ago, kilMARKnock said:

So gents, how poor or brilliant was Power last season?

Was liked by majority of fans online which I didn't get. I just never ever took to him. He ran about like a madman, threw himself into wild tackles and then invariably tripped himself up, passed it poorly or played himself into trouble when he did have possession.

No qualms about him leaving whatsoever.

Edited May 19, 2022 by djchapsticks