NorthBank Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Extremely disappointing however the new signings so far look better than what we had. They need a few games to gel although time is limited. Keep in the pack until this hard run is over then watch us climb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I'm always surprised that there seems to be very little criticism aimed at the St Mirren board(s) for the absolute shambles that has been their recruitment strategy for both players and managers over the last five years or so, starting with Tommy Craig. They've basically got it wrong over and over again with their managerial appointments, apart from once with Ross, and have consistently overseen a massive turnover of players, seemingly without any quality control. 37 players used already this season, and that's before the several others that seem to be coming in over the next few days (or already have in the case of the Croatian left-back). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Just now, craigkillie said: I'm always surprised that there seems to be very little criticism aimed at the St Mirren board(s) for the absolute shambles that has been their recruitment strategy for both players and managers over the last five years or so, starting with Tommy Craig. They've basically got it wrong over and over again with their managerial appointments, apart from once with Ross, and have consistently overseen a massive turnover of players, seemingly without any quality control. 37 players used already this season, and that's before the several others that seem to be coming in over the next few days (or already have in the case of the Croatian left-back). There was criticism of the old Board who appointed Tommy Craig et al however they were bought out 3 years ago. The new board got rid of Alex Rae immediately and brought in Jack Ross - great decision. They made a monumental mistake in Stubbs and his mental recruitment which Kearney now has to deal with. The new board have already stated that they will keep Kearney if we go down as we need stability and a proper signing policy (hence Gus MacPherson as Director of Football overseeing signings) so that folk like Stubbs don't get away with signing shite again. I cannot speak for all supporters but the 20 or so that I regularly hang out with all support the new Board and will give Kearney time. The current turnover is a necessity. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I'm always surprised that there seems to be very little criticism aimed at the St Mirren board(s) for the absolute shambles that has been their recruitment strategy for both players and managers over the last five years or so, starting with Tommy Craig. The issue is it is over 2 boards. The previous board took a lot of critiscm over Craig. Murray was ok on paper but don't work and Rae steadied things but built a terrible side. The current board replaced Rae with Ross, took us up. They then made a terrible mistake with Stubbs that we are paying for. Since then they have put in a new structure to prevent that. Not sure how much criticism we can put onto them- the signs are that things are improving but we are coming from a terrible base. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobby_F said: I think Popescu, Lyons and McAllister are very good additions. Keeper too - despite having lost 9 goals in his three games! Surely the Danish boy, if he was sold for £2m 6 months ago will have suffered today for just having met his teammates and will surely come on to a game. Need at least one of the new signings to be a decent striker as I think we suffered today from having very limited options to change things in that area. The Danish boy might have got on a bit better today had we occasionally given him the ball! We seemed reluctant to do it and there was at least one time when it was crying out for a through pass to be played for him to run onto and we didn't. Kearney on the radio afterwards saying he is aiming for one or two more (as opposed to two or three before the game). When pushed he said a striker and, weirdly, another wide player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Stu said: The Danish boy might have got on a bit better today had we occasionally given him the ball! We seemed reluctant to do it and there was at least one time when it was crying out for a through pass to be played for him to run onto and we didn't. Kearney on the radio afterwards saying he is aiming for one or two more (as opposed to two or three before the game). When pushed he said a striker and, weirdly, another wide player. There was one point in the first half when Jackson had the ball 40 yards out and we were 3 on 3. Andreas was making a great run down the right and would have been in on goal; instead Jackson turns the other way and the chance is lost. They didn't show it in the Sportscene highlights, but before the great chance McAlister had, so still at 1-0 Saints, Jackson also passed in the wrong direction instead of playing Lyons (I think) for an easy finish. All of this will hopefully get better when the new guys have played more with each other. There's reason for hope - especially if one of those two is a good striker. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Bobby_F said: There was one point in the first half when Jackson had the ball 40 yards out and we were 3 on 3. Andreas was making a great run down the right and would have been in on goal; instead Jackson turns the other way and the chance is lost. They didn't show it in the Sportscene highlights, but before the great chance McAlister had, so still at 1-0 Saints, Jackson also passed in the wrong direction instead of playing Lyons (I think) for an easy finish. All of this will hopefully get better when the new guys have played more with each other. There's reason for hope - especially if one of those two is a good striker. Agreed, i think it will get better when they have played a few games together. First opportunity I'd invest in some team bonding initiatives, important given the number of new faces. Today was sore, but hopefully they'll all learn from it, including OK who should have got one of the midfield to sit in front of the defence when the game became stretched, and possibly brought off one of the wingers for Ferdinand to make us more difficult to break down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 Some of the social media meltdowns have been a bit over the top. Yes, we threw that away today but folk screeching about OK now having his own players and not turning it around yet are being a bit too judgemental. We don't actually expect guys to be gelling straight away and despite the misgivings today, we were the better side for an hour of the match, having looked a lot more likely of carving out decent opposites than we have been doing. Had we been steamrollered from minute one today, I'd have been genuinely worried but there's enough there to suggest the all is not lost, even if we are still favourites to finish bottom at present. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy boo Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Some of the social media meltdowns have been a bit over the top. Yes, we threw that away today but folk screeching about OK now having his own players and not turning it around yet are being a bit too judgemental. We don't actually expect guys to be gelling straight away and despite the misgivings today, we were the better side for an hour of the match, having looked a lot more likely of carving out decent opposites than we have been doing. Had we been steamrollered from minute one today, I'd have been genuinely worried but there's enough there to suggest the all is not lost, even if we are still favourites to finish bottom at present.And the lesson is... keep off 'social media' pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torfason Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 There was one point in the first half when Jackson had the ball 40 yards out and we were 3 on 3. Andreas was making a great run down the right and would have been in on goal; instead Jackson turns the other way and the chance is lost. They didn't show it in the Sportscene highlights, but before the great chance McAlister had, so still at 1-0 Saints, Jackson also passed in the wrong direction instead of playing Lyons (I think) for an easy finish. All of this will hopefully get better when the new guys have played more with each other. There's reason for hope - especially if one of those two is a good striker.Paul McGinn was the same, he played the ball inside when Anders was wide open on the wing on a few occasions. Hopefully something we can fix in training. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 6 hours ago, jimmy boo said: 7 hours ago, djchapsticks said: Some of the social media meltdowns have been a bit over the top. Yes, we threw that away today but folk screeching about OK now having his own players and not turning it around yet are being a bit too judgemental. We don't actually expect guys to be gelling straight away and despite the misgivings today, we were the better side for an hour of the match, having looked a lot more likely of carving out decent opposites than we have been doing. Had we been steamrollered from minute one today, I'd have been genuinely worried but there's enough there to suggest the all is not lost, even if we are still favourites to finish bottom at present. And the lesson is... keep off 'social media' pish. Bit hard Jimmy, I'm running BAWA twitter feed for Div while he in Vegas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Quite a few positives to take out of the match. Obviously disappointed we lost but Hibs showed up in the 2nd half and they ultimately have better players than us.Even at 1-1 their keeper made 2 brilliant saves. Worryingly we got tired but a lot of these guys haven't been playing regular football and Stephen McGinn looks like he is being held together with sticky tape. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Paul McGinn really is rather poor isn't he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Silvio said: Paul McGinn really is rather poor isn't he? No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spam_Valley Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Silvio said: Paul McGinn really is rather poor isn't he? Yes. Very much so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Bobby_F said: No. 13 minutes ago, Spam_Valley said: Yes. Very much so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadroj Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Kearney is getting far too easy a ride IMO. He has literally done nothing so far that suggests he is going to turn it around. He is an absolute slaver at times as well, I still can't get my head around his comments about his players after the game against us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Nadroj said: Kearney is getting far too easy a ride IMO. He has literally done nothing so far that suggests he is going to turn it around. He is an absolute slaver at times as well, I still can't get my head around his comments about his players after the game against us. I don't think anyone apart from the lunatic fringe want him sacked at the moment. What is happening now is people are starting to question some of his tactics and changes within the game, which personally I think is fair enough. The last thing we need is another managerial change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Striker and a centre half In next I’m told. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ah-dee Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Kearney is getting far too easy a ride IMO. He has literally done nothing so far that suggests he is going to turn it around. He is an absolute slaver at times as well, I still can't get my head around his comments about his players after the game against us.did the board not say he would be in charge next season even if they went down? bold statement. they could potentially lose every game between now and the end of the season.i think he will be judged on performances from yesterday until the end of the season now hes made his signings. hopefully its a disaster but not as big a disaster as hamilton! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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