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8 minutes ago, Stu said:

I'm not the one you need to convince about sports science, which is a vital part of the modern game. It's the guy who thinks they earn £60k a year you need to talk to.

ffs doh ! Ok let's call it £30,000. Could you get a player for that ? Not that we need any with us flying in the League :huh: Edit - Our new sports science man did such a wonderful job saving Patrick Thistle from the drop. 

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45 minutes ago, Demented Zebra said:

 Our new sports science man did such a wonderful job saving Patrick Thistle from the drop. 

Thats a bit harsh.. The groundsman did a crap job of keeping them up as well and the guy on the turnstiles was hopeless.

Paul McGinn and Ryan Edwards however were blameless.

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3 minutes ago, dylan_leggatt said:

Thats a bit harsh.. The groundsman did a crap job of keeping them up as well and the guy on the turnstiles was hopeless.

Paul McGinn and Ryan Edwards however were blameless.

The bottom line is ( players ) are what is going to save our season not the whistles. A clear out in January has been confirmed.  A good budget is needed for replacements. If we survive then get the extras in the manager wants. Survival should be above all else. That's my opinion right or wrong.  

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37 minutes ago, Demented Zebra said:

The bottom line is ( players ) are what is going to save our season not the whistles. A clear out in January has been confirmed.  A good budget is needed for replacements. If we survive then get the extras in the manager wants. Survival should be above all else. That's my opinion right or wrong.  

Correct answer.

 

As for Samson I would bet he ends up playing a game for Sunderland this season.

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On ‎14‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 10:39, GAD said:

Don't think Craig Samson would have had the highly successful and decorated career he had if he hadn't been able to catch mate.

Highly successful? That why clubs like Killie & Motherwell signed keepers to replace him?

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57 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said:

Highly successful? That why clubs like Killie & Motherwell signed keepers to replace him?

Yes, he's had a highly successful career in Scottish football by any definition. 

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8 hours ago, Demented Zebra said:

Oh aye Stu he is on zero hours contract with a minimum hourly rate. It will easily cover a players wage. What about Jimmy Nichol wage when he comes in ? What about Gus McPherson wage. Too many back room staff on wages for a club our size especially for one heading to the championship.  So I agree with you it's hilarious.  NOT. 

FFS! It’s not a new wage though! We had a sports scientist, it was in the budget...it’s going to have little impact on the budget! 

The only additional wage on that side has been Gus and, by the sounds of it, that was in the plan.

You really need to worry less about things like this.

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18 hours ago, Dindeleux said:

Correct answer.

 

As for Samson I would bet he ends up playing a game for Sunderland this season.

According to one of Samson's family..... Sunderland currently have 3 keepers, Jon McLaughlin who is 1st choice,  Dutchman Robbin Ruiter as 2nd choice and top prospect, young Polish keeper Max Strycek, currently out on loan to Eastleigh but he will be recalled at Christmas, Ruiter will be allowed to leave and Samson will be 3rd choice back up as well as their GK coach.

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21 hours ago, Dindeleux said:

As for Samson I would bet he ends up playing a game for Sunderland this season.

I'd like to think we'd be smart enough to keep hold of his player registration in the event of such a thing occurring.

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On 11/15/2018 at 09:38, Demented Zebra said:

Oh aye Stu he is on zero hours contract with a minimum hourly rate. It will easily cover a players wage. What about Jimmy Nichol wage when he comes in ? What about Gus McPherson wage. Too many back room staff on wages for a club our size especially for one heading to the championship.  So I agree with you it's hilarious.  NOT. 

How do you know what is too many backroom staff? At the moment we have the same amount as we did under Stubbs. Nicholl will be an extra, but again, how does anyone know what we're budgeting for? Or how long a contract we've given the backroom staff, or what getout clauses at have in the event of relegation. 

Seems everyone just likes moaning based on their imagined idea of our budget. I understand people whining about our results, performances etc, but not about finances of which we have little to no knowledge. 

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57 minutes ago, Soctty said:

How do you know what is too many backroom staff? At the moment we have the same amount as we did under Stubbs. Nicholl will be an extra, but again, how does anyone know what we're budgeting for? Or how long a contract we've given the backroom staff, or what getout clauses at have in the event of relegation. 

Seems everyone just likes moaning based on their imagined idea of our budget. I understand people whining about our results, performances etc, but not about finances of which we have little to no knowledge. 

As I have written Scotty it's players that will keep us in this league. A club our size can't have enough money for a player budget given where we are going into January. You know as well as I do if we go down back room staff will shrink. To stay in this league you need to get the basics right first on the park. Anyway let's see if all these back room staff is money well spent at the end of the season I have my doubts. 

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16 hours ago, Torfason said:

If Junior can get Kpekawa fit he will be worth Mark Yardleys weight in gold emoji14.png
 

Good grief I forgot about him 

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On 17/11/2018 at 15:02, djchapsticks said:

I've learned to stop arguing with DZ. You can't outwit total ignorance.

Or accounts. Edit - What's to argue ? I would rather the sports scientist salary went on another player. It's a difference of opinion not an argument.  

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On 11/16/2018 at 11:13, Demented Zebra said:

As I have written Scotty it's players that will keep us in this league. A club our size can't have enough money for a player budget given where we are going into January. You know as well as I do if we go down back room staff will shrink. To stay in this league you need to get the basics right first on the park. Anyway let's see if all these back room staff is money well spent at the end of the season I have my doubts. 

So we should get rid of as many of the coaching and backroom staff as possible and just bring in more players? Someone better inform the rest of world football - they're under the impression that more coaching makes for better players and better teams, and better preparation, nutrition and diet makes for a more efficient playing staff.

Turns out all the players need to play better, be more tactically aware and be fitter is to be paid more money...

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From my time on P & B I realise this is the umpteenth request for something like this but any help would be much appreciated. I'm in my 4th year at the University of Aberdeen doing a Politics and Sociology degree and for my honours dissertation I'm writing about Scottish football fandom. The title is "What a shitey home support! A study of Scottish football rivalry as tool for capital accumulation".  The plan is to talk about why Scottish football teams hold rivalries and what they provide/ mean to the fans.  I'm choosing St Mirren and Morton as the two teams to study and the plan is to conduct some interviews with dedicated fans about their relationship with  their respective club, town and rivals.I'm a Paisley lad and a St Mirren season ticket holder so I can conduct interviews at a time and place of your choosing. The plan is to come to  match day to experience both sets of fans myself so I can easily meet before or after a game.

I know these requests pop up a fair bit but any insight would be very helpful, would be interesting to hear what people make of the rivalry. 

If anyone would be interested, please reply and I can send an e-mail.

Cheers, Fraser.

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2 hours ago, Fraser Smith said:

From my time on P & B I realise this is the umpteenth request for something like this but any help would be much appreciated. I'm in my 4th year at the University of Aberdeen doing a Politics and Sociology degree and for my honours dissertation I'm writing about Scottish football fandom. The title is "What a shitey home support! A study of Scottish football rivalry as tool for capital accumulation".  The plan is to talk about why Scottish football teams hold rivalries and what they provide/ mean to the fans.  I'm choosing St Mirren and Morton as the two teams to study and the plan is to conduct some interviews with dedicated fans about their relationship with  their respective club, town and rivals.I'm a Paisley lad and a St Mirren season ticket holder so I can conduct interviews at a time and place of your choosing. The plan is to come to  match day to experience both sets of fans myself so I can easily meet before or after a game.

I know these requests pop up a fair bit but any insight would be very helpful, would be interesting to hear what people make of the rivalry. 

If anyone would be interested, please reply and I can send an e-mail.

Cheers, Fraser.

Better going to blackandwhitearmy.com with this question.  Personally I don't see it as a rivalry given the history of both clubs. It's always nice to beat your neighbours for bragging rights. Growing up it was always Kilmarnock as our rivals but that has changed . 

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Hearing Adam Hamill wants to stay so should be easy enough to deal with.

Expect Cody Cooke to be on the bench today, he has been impressing seemingly.

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