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On 19/09/2019 at 13:33, Dindeleux said:

Reading the digger in work today and I see that the W7 group (never heard of them) were involved in a bit of trouble up at Motherwell.

I’ve never noticed any trouble against St Mirren before nor have I heard of the W7.  It’s clear they are just young guys but I was wondering if this seemed to be a one off incident or are these guys causing trouble for the club generally?

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After the Aberdeen game everyone was hopeful this was going to be a decent season which lasted for weeks. 7 games in it's clear to see this will be a squeaky bum season. Cant believe how bad junior is he is a striker in name only. 

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Difference is this season we are going to be terribly hard to  beat. 

Last season we would have lost both those home games, this year we got 2pts out of 6.

Long hard season ahead definitely, but I dont think we're going to have one of those crazy January windows this year. 

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41 minutes ago, Demented Zebra said:

After the Aberdeen game everyone was hopeful this was going to be a decent season which lasted for weeks. 7 games in it's clear to see this will be a squeaky bum season. Cant believe how bad junior is he is a striker in name only. 

Boo boy already. The boy only has two starts to his name, and people giving him pelters.

He didn’t have the best game, but I don’t think we played to his strengths. We constantly tried to give him the ball with his back to goal and I don’t think that’s his game.

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Difference is this season we are going to be terribly hard to  beat. 
Last season we would have lost both those home games, this year we got 2pts out of 6.
Long hard season ahead definitely, but I dont think we're going to have one of those crazy January windows this year. 
Spot on. In January we might see a couple of players going out and coming in but it'll be nothing like having to move on a dozen players to make way for half a new team.

I still reckon there's a good chance we can start getting goals. There are no stand out goal scorers but Mullen is capable of bagging a few, Magennis, McAllister are bound to chip in with some. Possibly Cooke too when he's fit again. I'm still hopeful that Morais and Obika can find their shooting boots.

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13 minutes ago, aldo_j said:

Boo boy already. The boy only has two starts to his name, and people giving him pelters.

He didn’t have the best game, but I don’t think we played to his strengths. We constantly tried to give him the ball with his back to goal and I don’t think that’s his game.

Never booed the team in my entire life. We have some decent players but we also have a few not so good. The balance is not yet right. 7 games in how many goals have our strikers scored.  Defence is good. Midfielders mostly good. Strikers is a problem dont score goals your going to be in trouble.  We always have been a yoyo club that unfortunately will not change. Yet look at the success of Motherwell, St Johnstone staying in top flight football if only we could emulate them. We live and hope. 

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29 minutes ago, Silvio said:

Difference is this season we are going to be terribly hard to  beat. 

Last season we would have lost both those home games, this year we got 2pts out of 6.

Last season you beat Hearts at home and 10-man Accies. 

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15 minutes ago, houston_bud said:

Spot on. In January we might see a couple of players going out and coming in but it'll be nothing like having to move on a dozen players to make way for half a new team.

I still reckon there's a good chance we can start getting goals. There are no stand out goal scorers but Mullen is capable of bagging a few, Magennis, McAllister are bound to chip in with some. Possibly Cooke too when he's fit again. I'm still hopeful that Morais and Obika can find their shooting boots.

Mullen, Cook , Obika should be our first choice.  Morais cant play the lone striker I wish Jim would be a wee bit ambitious playing two up front. 

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I’ll judge the strikers when they get some service. High balls to Junior, poor crosses into the box that any decent central defender loves etc.

The team are not giving the strikers anything to work with, we are hard to beat and hold really good shape but until we start creating chances for the strikers we will remain St Mirren nil.............that is not something we can blame the strikers for.

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13 hours ago, Torfason said:

I’ll judge the strikers when they get some service. High balls to Junior, poor crosses into the box that any decent central defender loves etc.

The team are not giving the strikers anything to work with, we are hard to beat and hold really good shape but until we start creating chances for the strikers we will remain St Mirren nil.............that is not something we can blame the strikers for.

Junior was one on one heading for goal all he did was run into the Hearts defender though he recovered to get the ball to the winger. Noticed today's paper gave our forwards a score of 5 Flynn also got a 5 the lowest of our team. So a neutral agrees Flynn was poor on Saturday. There has to be coaching this week on attacking.  Stats no shoots on target against Hearts. 

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Seems odd to me that McGinn isn't featuring for the reserves today. Surely he needs to get some match fitness after going so long without games. Not an attempt to suggest there's some sort of rift BTW - I don't understand why guys like Mullen who do get on the pitch aren't given a shot in the reserves in a bid to show what they can do.

And my final reserve related point - is Cammy MacPherson injured? Not on the bench on Saturday and not in the reserve team today.

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15 minutes ago, Stu said:

Seems odd to me that McGinn isn't featuring for the reserves today. Surely he needs to get some match fitness after going so long without games. Not an attempt to suggest there's some sort of rift BTW - I don't understand why guys like Mullen who do get on the pitch aren't given a shot in the reserves in a bid to show what they can do.

And my final reserve related point - is Cammy MacPherson injured? Not on the bench on Saturday and not in the reserve team today.

Think there have been a few bounce games of late.

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On 29/09/2019 at 06:07, Demented Zebra said:

Never booed the team in my entire life. 

You don't have to physically sit at a match and boo the team to be a boo boy. 

Just like you don't have to sit and applaud to be a happy clapper. 

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3 hours ago, Demented Zebra said:

Junior was one on one heading for goal all he did was run into the Hearts defender though he recovered to get the ball to the winger. Noticed today's paper gave our forwards a score of 5 Flynn also got a 5 the lowest of our team. So a neutral agrees Flynn was poor on Saturday. There has to be coaching this week on attacking.  Stats no shoots on target against Hearts. 

Paisley Daily Express awarded him man of the match.

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2 hours ago, djchapsticks said:

You don't have to physically sit at a match and boo the team to be a boo boy. 

Just like you don't have to sit and applaud to be a happy clapper. 

Imagine a St Mirren supporter being critical of his team. Whatever next. 

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43 minutes ago, Demented Zebra said:

Imagine a St Mirren supporter being critical of his team. Whatever next. 

The point I was making is that it’s still very early in his career with us to making judgements. We didn’t play to his strengths and we don’t create enough, not all down to him.

Plenty of people jumping on his back at the game too. Be critical of the team, just avoid being critical of individuals who’ve only made two starts. Look how big Cody progressed last season, for example.

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32 minutes ago, aldo_j said:

The point I was making is that it’s still very early in his career with us to making judgements. We didn’t play to his strengths and we don’t create enough, not all down to him.

Plenty of people jumping on his back at the game too. Be critical of the team, just avoid being critical of individuals who’ve only made two starts. Look how big Cody progressed last season, for example.

I'm sure I wrote coaching on attacking needs to be worked on. Funnily enough Waters on buddie vision agrees with me saying the same thing. Nearly every one including Stevie Thompson agree Mullen should start next week. Junior needs to work on his mojo. Have seen nothing yet to suggest he will be a hit.  But you have your opinion Junior should start next week I disagree.  

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I don't understand the sudden rush to see Mullen and Cooke in the starting line up. We started with that pairing at Albion Rovers and we never looked like scoring. Cooke started against Edinburgh City in a game where we needed a late penalty to win - the strike force that day was useless. And Mullen started against East Kilbride and was joined by Cooke in the 70th minute and neither of them looked capable of scoring then either. 

Obika and Morais were heralded in as the quality signings needed to set the team up for a good season and a few matches later they are being written off for a couple of duds who couldn't score against non league opposition. 

Give Obika and Morais the right kind of supply and the goals will come - playing as we are at the moment Ronaldo and Messi would struggle to score goals. 

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2 hours ago, Demented Zebra said:

I'm sure I wrote coaching on attacking needs to be worked on. Funnily enough Waters on buddie vision agrees with me saying the same thing. Nearly every one including Stevie Thompson agree Mullen should start next week. Junior needs to work on his mojo. Have seen nothing yet to suggest he will be a hit.  But you have your opinion Junior should start next week I disagree.  

You said “I can’t believe how bad Junior is” and something about being a striker in name only.

Honestly, I’d go with Obika at the moment. There’s something there with him and think it’s just taking a bit of time...people have forgotten he’d been out for 10 months before signing for us.

I like Mullen, but his career so far doesn’t point towards him being the answer. Not as a lone striker anyway. Has even hit double figures for us in his (nearly) two years?

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