bennett Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, elvis said: Thought he had already left them. Not very good news for you mate, best keep your head down for a while... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Jeff King from Bolton signing today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergie's no1 fan Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Jeff King from Bolton signing today. Not as good as his brother Wan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, sergie's no1 fan said: 19 minutes ago, Stu said: Jeff King from Bolton signing today. Not as good as his brother Wan Or his other brother Joe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dullard Bluteau Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 The way its going, saints should be moved to the English non league section. Very worried about the way Stubbs sees non league players able to step straight into out Premiership. Shows what he really thinks about our football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AW saint Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dullard Bluteau said: The way its going, saints should be moved to the English non league section. Very worried about the way Stubbs sees non league players able to step straight into out Premiership. Shows what he really thinks about our football. Or else he is bringing in hungry young players who will supplement any experienced players he will bring in. I think he knows what he is doing and unlike most of fans he will have seen these guys actually play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Dullard Bluteau said: The way its going, saints should be moved to the English non league section. Very worried about the way Stubbs sees non league players able to step straight into out Premiership. Shows what he really thinks about our football. King is from Bolton, but he was on loan to a non league side last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraser_smfc Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 The way its going, saints should be moved to the English non league section. Very worried about the way Stubbs sees non league players able to step straight into out Premiership. Shows what he really thinks about our football. Dundee, a club with a far bigger budget than ours, have already signed several players from the English non league. I’m not saying it’s ideal but Jamie Vardy was plucked from similar depths (incidentally it’s his academy from which these players have been sought).Besides, Emmanuel Sonupé played for Spurs and he was beyond terrible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demented Zebra Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, Dullard Bluteau said: The way its going, saints should be moved to the English non league section. Very worried about the way Stubbs sees non league players able to step straight into out Premiership. Shows what he really thinks about our football. 2 players for every player on the park Stubbs has said no player will able to think they will play on a Saturday . Personally I'm not worried more excited than anything else. English teams are so big on players from the continent means there has to be good ones about with a population of 50 million. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 40 minutes ago, Hendo said: King is from Bolton, but he was on loan to a non league side last season. Yes for 28 days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 39 minutes ago, fraser_smfc said: Dundee, a club with a far bigger budget than ours, have already signed several players from the English non league. I’m not saying it’s ideal but Jamie Vardy was plucked from similar depths (incidentally it’s his academy from which these players have been sought). Besides, Emmanuel Sonupé played for Spurs and he was beyond terrible. I can see that becoming this season's "Kyle Hutton was Queen of the South's player of the year" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Buddist Monk said: I guess it comes down to whether you care about winning or the image of your club. Obviously the whole thing is a grey area, and winning is clearly key to our survival, I respect other's opinion on the matter whether I agree with them or not, but I think Stokes is a step too far. I was referring to your post... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Not to defend the whole non-league signing policy as I've clearly never seen these players but we brought in the guts of £2m in transfer income off the back of recruiting from non-league. Marvin Johnson (Oxford & sell on to Middlesboro), Ben Heneghan (Sheffield Utd) & Louis Moult (Preston North End). Moult had the added bonus of 50 goals in 98 games. One of our most consistent players last season (Richard Tait) was signed from Grimsby when they were non-league. I don't think you can necessarily get away with filling your first XI with non-league players and regardless of what anyone says it's a massive step up to go from that level to the Scottish Premiership. For all we've had success recruiting at that level none of our signings last summer were from that level. Carson had been relegated with Hartlepool but didn't play any games for them at that level, though either way he's now a Northern Ireland international and one of the best goalkeepers in the league. It really just depends how good your scouting is. There's tons of utter, utter dross but equally there are players who can make the step up if they're willing to put the work in. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraser_smfc Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I can see that becoming this season's "Kyle Hutton was Queen of the South's player of the year" Or, “Callum Ball is the new Mark Yardley”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Dullard Bluteau said: The way its going, saints should be moved to the English non league section. Very worried about the way Stubbs sees non league players able to step straight into out Premiership. Shows what he really thinks about our football. Caley Thistle signed 8 players from Non League in summer 2013/14, and one from Ireland, finishing 5th in the Premiership that season. I'm not saying we'll do likewise, just that there are good players at that level who can do a job. It's up to the manager to select the right players and to supplement them with a bit of experience, which we already have in the form of McGinn, Samson, Mackenzie, Eckersley and Flynn, to name just a few. Let's see how we do before rounding on the manager shall we? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, Soctty said: I was referring to your post... So why answer it then? Seems such an odd decision. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddist Monk Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 So the signings then... I suppose we should be happy it's not the usual Scottish footballer bingo, and these are pretty much unknown guys. I thought at the time that Stubbs must have convinced the board this was the sort of thing he wanted to do; develop youths or bring in players from lower leagues with potential, build them up and sell them on. The "biggest transfer fee in a couple of decades" line is a bit funny considering it makes it sound impressive when in reality it's just £75k. Still this is in the world of critically underfunded Scottish football. Overall I have to say I'm quite optimistic about these two. Can't wait for the pre-season now we have Stubbs in place and the signings are starting to roll in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Soctty said: Caley Thistle signed 8 players from Non League in summer 2013/14, and one from Ireland, finishing 5th in the Premiership that season. I'm not saying we'll do likewise, just that there are good players at that level who can do a job. It's up to the manager to select the right players and to supplement them with a bit of experience, which we already have in the form of McGinn, Samson, Mackenzie, Eckersley and Flynn, to name just a few. Let's see how we do before rounding on the manager shall we? If you look at Motherwell, they tend to sign players from that level or slightly above, develop them and sell them on for a profit. They might not be amazing right away but they seem to attract interest from clubs down south who can pay decent fees. I don't imagine they'll be too expensive wage wise either. Edited June 22, 2018 by Kyle 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Kyle said: If you look at Motherwell, they tend to sign players from that level or slightly above, develop them and sell them on for a profit. They might not be amazing right away but they seem to attract interest from clubs down south who can pay decent fees. They might be rubbish but equally they might turn a decent profit if they're good. I don't imagine they'll be too expensive either. It's a good strategy, one which clubs of our size should look at, in addition to having a good youth academy. I want players who see us a potential route to bigger things, not players who think they've made it when they arrive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soctty Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Buddist Monk said: So why answer it then? Seems such an odd decision. Because I felt like it... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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