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Season 2016/17, success or fail?

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The past week or so has been disappointing from a Killie perspective. Two poor defeats where we could - should in the case of the 'Well game - have done better.

However one year ago today was the second leg of the Falkirk playoff at RP, and you have to compare it to last season which was a total, abject catastrofuck of a failure that the 4-0 win on the final day papered over the cracks of.

Lee Clark proved himself to be a gambler with just about everything - unveiling a whole team's worth of players together on the one day, his tactics, his handling of the Woodman-MacDonald situation, the cryogenic chamber saga - it goes on. Once McCulloch took over we became more stable, even if it was only slightly so. Our League Cup group was an atrocious failure, struggling against the likes of Berwick Rangers and Albion Rovers and our Scottish Cup exit to Hamilton summed up our poor season in the cups.

Against this though, the young players like Greg Taylor, Adam Frizzell, Iain Wilson, Dean Hawkshaw, Innes Cameron et al. have really stepped up and shown a good level of desire and hunger. Being young they're inevitably going to make mistakes and aren't immune to criticism when they do get it - but I'm more than happy to support them if they try their best. 

Overall you could say it's been a success as we managed to avoid 11th and 12th place by a fairly comfortable margin in the end. I'm not convinced that we'd have finished as well as 8th had Clark not left. At the start of the season I said that I'd have been happy with 10th place and I stick by that. 

To further quantify this season as a success MJ is finally leaving which means that we'll be able to attract some of the NAPM crowd back and also get some fresh investment into the club - even getting a proper board rather than a one-man boardroom might be achievable now! I'm pleased that the season has ended as it's been a long one and I'm going to enjoy a good few weeks without bothering much about the football, going and doing some different things on Saturdays. By the time the League Cup starts I'll probably have the big again, but for now I'm content with things the way they are.

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On face of it Thistle achieved their target of Top 6.
Got to the quarter finals of the cup for the first time in ages too.
We had an awful start to the season in terms of results and we're sitting bottom just before Christmas.
Up until the last five games we had a decent defensive record and along with Doolans 2017 goals we deserved our top 6 place.
We still struggle against the top teams and even St Johnstone this season though.
We also have the embarrassing situation of not taking any points from a hapless Rangers team and the two late defeats at Firhill to cope with.
Looking at the points won there is certainly lots of room for improvement but I'm happy overall despite no stand out performances. I think we only scored three goals or more on one occasion this season but that was balanced with the improvement at the back.
A few stand out performers for me in Cerny, Doolan, Lindsay and the January addition of Niall Keown.
I would give us a B- overall.
Good work but could do better.

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2 hours ago, R.Mutt said:

This was just my opinion.

I was hoping to at least reach the play off in Europe so the campaign was a failure in my eyes. We had an awful away journey to Luxembourg abd didn't play to our full potential at Pittodrie against Maribor. Mistakes we'll have learned from. I have confidence we'll reach play off spot and it would be massive to get to the group stages.

League Cup was an absolute failure - Celtic slapped us and we had no answer. We better have the answers on Saturday.

We have had a good season. It will be a great season if we can beat Celtic.

fair enough with your opinion but I don't agree with it

Before the start of this season with the new Europa League only 4 teams have qualified from the 1st round so that shows how incredible tough to qualify although we should always aim for it. I think 3rd round is where we should get knocked out going with wages but we didn't get the breaks/take the chances along with a dreadful ref against Maribor. 

Last season was an absolute failure in the cups but getting to two finals is not a failure imho - you are looking at one game which we failed to turn up and hopefully they will put that right on Saturday but if not it should still be classed as a fantastic season

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5 minutes ago, Milners said:

fair enough with your opinion but I don't agree with it

Before the start of this season with the new Europa League only 4 teams have qualified from the 1st round so that shows how incredible tough to qualify although we should always aim for it. I think 3rd round is where we should get knocked out going with wages but we didn't get the breaks/take the chances along with a dreadful ref against Maribor. 

Last season was an absolute failure in the cups but getting to two finals is not a failure imho - you are looking at one game which we failed to turn up and hopefully they will put that right on Saturday but if not it should still be classed as a fantastic season

Ok I can see your point on Europe - and it's great to reach the finals but not a success unless we actually win the cup.

Not taking away a fantastic season in the league...

Hoping for us to be the Scottish Cup invincibles by full time on Saturday.

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Aberdeen - successful

 

Celtic - successful

 

Dundee - successful

 

Hamilton- successful

 

Hearts - failure

 

Inverness - failure

 

Kilmarnock - successful

 

Motherwell - failure

 

Partick Thistle - successful

 

Rangers - failure

 

Ross County - successful

 

St. Johnstone - successful

 

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1 hour ago, MikeyWellFan said:

Aberdeen - successful

 

Celtic - successful

 

Dundee - successful

 

Hamilton- successful

 

Hearts - failure

 

Inverness - failure

 

Kilmarnock - successful

 

Motherwell - failure

 

Partick Thistle - successful

 

Rangers - failure

 

Ross County - successful

 

St. Johnstone - successful

 

In what universe were Dundee successful? We've been utterly fucking shite. 

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Premiership - :lol:
League Cup - Emptied out by Alloa after a reasonable performance in the group stages
Scottish Cup - Bodied by Celtic which is no real disgrace but reducing ourselves to hatchet men to compete with them was disappointing

All in all, hard to think of anything positive from this season really.

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1 hour ago, SweeperDee said:

In what universe were Dundee successful? We've been utterly fucking shite. 

Worst team in the league. 

Didn't get relegated. ✔

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On 2017-5-21 at 09:20, Bri RCFC said:

Winning the development league and finishing strongly in 7th can't be seen as a failure, aiming for top 6 but just missing out, don't really think that's a failure either given the competitiveness of the league this season. Id take a 7th place finish for next season right now, especially if Accies loose the play off!

^^^^That just about sums it up for County imo.

We were aiming for top 6 but tbf our midfield was too unsettled to achieve it, plus I thought PT were well deserving of their top 6 spot.

Liam has been amazing this season he contributes so much more than just goals to the team. Craig Curren was a huge miss for us with his injury problems at the start of the year but he's back to his best as far as I could tell these last few weeks. 

Amazing achievement for the development team and one that you can tell the whole club has been working hard towards. Two or three of them getting 10 or 15 appearances in the first team next year would be another great achievement. 

Great discounts being offered for next seasons season tickets too so hopefully an increase in uptake there too, I'll be taking advantage of the early bird 10% discount anyway.

 

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51 minutes ago, Kryptonite said:

Disaster.

Reported.

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Fair play to tam - he tries really hard at the trolling thing, often failing miserably at it, but he's hooked a few here.

I think he was trying to hook Dundee fans but we know we've been shite this season so no cigar.

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frankthetank22 

On 21/05/2017 at 09:20, Bri RCFC said:

Winning the development league and finishing strongly in 7th can't be seen as a failure, aiming for top 6 but just missing out, don't really think that's a failure either given the competitiveness of the league this season. Id take a 7th place finish for next season right now, especially if Accies loose the play off!

16 hours ago, frankthetank22 said:

^^^^That just about sums it up for County imo.

We were aiming for top 6 but tbf our midfield was too unsettled to achieve it, plus I thought PT were well deserving of their top 6 spot.

Liam has been amazing this season he contributes so much more than just goals to the team. Craig Curren was a huge miss for us with his injury problems at the start of the year but he's back to his best as far as I could tell these last few weeks. 

Amazing achievement for the development team and one that you can tell the whole club has been working hard towards. Two or three of them getting 10 or 15 appearances in the first team next year would be another great achievement. 

Great discounts being offered for next seasons season tickets too so hopefully an increase in uptake there too, I'll be taking advantage of the early bird 10% discount anyway.

 

cba checking back to start of season, but I'm sure there were many teams whose fans were expecting / aiming for / hoping for top 6, including Inverness and Dundee.

County did not click on too many occasions quite to grab enough points, but were not far off.

Like many fans, the County fans have had shredded nerves and frustrations until County ultimately secured a deserved 7th.

Success

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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