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If your a pollok fan you should be rubbing your hands at the forth coming season,i think pollok have pinpointed the players they need to be succesful and went and got them,i cant see how that brings extra pressure,rather the oppisite,it shows ambition to the fans and if you have the resources like pollok,use them.Speculate to accumulate i think thats correct phrase,go on a winning run and you'll see four figure attendances at newlandsfield every home game,recoup the money spent and good prospects of silverware at seasons end,where's the pressure?

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13 minutes ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:

Think without doubt if Pollok want to get back to the very top where they used to be then this way, in todays environment, I personally think is the best way.  The Committee and fans believe in a manager and coaching staff that they have appointed and are without doubt giving him time.  He has already produced trophies and has brought stability on and off the park as well as the committee.

I'm not privy to other on-going such as on and off the park in commercial etc.. but one thing for sure as a guy who played in junior football and knows what expected at that level, I for one know with the connection with Pollok Soccer Academy, Sena will not be the last Youth to make the Junior grade at a young level.

 

Regards Willie Irvine, don't know him or the story but I take it he was at the helm when Pollok went down or got rid of the social club ?
Still shake my head when I read all this happening to such a giant in the junior game.

The Academy is a great development for Lok and the social club sale wasn't anything to do with Irvine-it simply wasn't a viable commercial operation anymore as urban social clubs especially in Shawlands area competing against 50 odd pubs and clubs of all types no longer work-it had its day and the club made a return on the sale to move forward while allowing the new operator to turn it into a superb modern bar/restaurant.A shame but unless you are in a small rural/village location where there isn't anything else going on a junior social club holds little appeal to consumers these days.

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8 minutes ago, Duraglit shareholder said:

If your a pollok fan you should be rubbing your hands at the forth coming season,i think pollok have pinpointed the players they need to be succesful and went and got them,i cant see how that brings extra pressure,rather the oppisite,it shows ambition to the fans and if you have the resources like pollok,use them.Speculate to accumulate i think thats correct phrase,go on a winning run and you'll see four figure attendances at newlandsfield every home game,recoup the money spent and good prospects of silverware at seasons end,where's the pressure?

Well said that man.Lok are very ambitious,professionally run at every level by those who love the club and just want to do well.There will always be knockers but for most Tony McInally is an intelligent,astute,passionate man who we want to see at Newlandsfield for years.

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13 minutes ago, Lokloyal said:

The Academy is a great development for Lok and the social club sale wasn't anything to do with Irvine-it simply wasn't a viable commercial operation anymore as urban social clubs especially in Shawlands area competing against 50 odd pubs and clubs of all types no longer work-it had its day and the club made a return on the sale to move forward while allowing the new operator to turn it into a superb modern bar/restaurant.A shame but unless you are in a small rural/village location where there isn't anything else going on a junior social club holds little appeal to consumers these days.

Thanks Lok

The academy developed and started by Andy Elliott and others, (I believe), is now a institution that Pollok FC couldn't ignore any longer and realised the benefits with a merger that can see youth being developed to a higher standard. I have witnessed it first hand and watch First team coaches come in and help take some coaching sessions and I know this will pay big big dividends for Pollok Fc and the committee and fans.  There has always been a connections with some boys teams but nothing like on this scale, with first team coaching coming to help train the youths and youth taking spells with the first team training to show them what is expected of the youth at that level.  I can only see a bright future for Pollok Fc by the way they are going about their business.

I now want to see the coaches of the youth teams come to first team sessions for ideas and to learn the level of expectation and training. Each age group should be developed so that they can easily and seamlessly move into the higher section, i.e. u17's into U19s then to U21s and then seamlessly into the u21s.  It will all bowed well once everyone is on the same page with this understanding. The merger is there for a reason so it should all be made to work and if other junior teams do this then wouldn't it be great that New Season Thread has a lot of chat about youths coming through the ranks to join the first teams.

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13 hours ago, archieb said:

Utter and complete nonsense. Lok have no "sugar daddy" ... Or mommy for that matter.

You just keep telling yourself that and you might just start to believe it.

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A keep hearing about all these "sugar daddies" an buying titles and cups ? One question ?
When is it our turn ?
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Pollok have a fantastic array of commercial sponsors from law and accountancy  firms to pubs and industrial businesses of various scales in addition to the 1908 club where the names of those who wish to be disclosed appear in every match programme and involve many donating £50-100 a month to the club.Thats a very nice foundation of cash every month if you multiply it a couple of hundred times.Lok have never been beholden to the big money men who dipped into clubs and in most cases ruined them e.g. maryhill,Kilwinning,Glenafton,Hurlford,Bellshill,etc

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Thanks Lok The academy developed and started by Andy Elliott and others, (I believe), is now a institution that Pollok FC couldn't ignore any longer and realised the benefits with a merger that can see youth being developed to a higher standard. I have witnessed it first hand and watch First team coaches come in and help take some coaching sessions and I know this will pay big big dividends for Pollok Fc and the committee and fans.  There has always been a connections with some boys teams but nothing like on this scale, with first team coaching coming to help train the youths and youth taking spells with the first team training to show them what is expected of the youth at that level.  I can only see a bright future for Pollok Fc by the way they are going about their business. I now want to see the coaches of the youth teams come to first team sessions for ideas and to learn the level of expectation and training. Each age group should be developed so that they can easily and seamlessly move into the higher section, i.e. u17's into U19s then to U21s and then seamlessly into the u21s.  It will all bowed well once everyone is on the same page with this understanding. The merger is there for a reason so it should all be made to work and if other junior teams do this then wouldn't it be great that New Season Thread has a lot of chat about youths coming through the ranks to join the first teams.

 

 

You do realise this is nothing special or revolutionary, that many junior clubs do it very well and have been doing it for years. Even Rob Roy have a under 21s, , 17s and amateur side etc , with the amateur side and 21s side in particular helped us out in the past and now starting to provide us with players. Given we are currently a premier league team we might only see one or two of the standard to be a part of our squad but in the future that could change. In the future for example if we are a lower league club something which won't happen to Pollok given league reconstruction and the crowds and revenue they get, we though may in the future use far more players from the feeder teams.

 

All in all its nothing genius and no rocket science to it, it's common sense to have these feeder sides under a junior club banner.

 

 

 

 

 

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Agreed the toilets need sorted but I understand Lok are looking at a much bigger change regarding the stadium situation and have been via developers and the City Council.

Didnt realise Rob Roy had a formal affiliation with boys/amateur side sharing coaching staff,ground,training facilities,and social facilities as happens at Pollok but it's encouraging to hear that.

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1 hour ago, Geo61 said:

 

 


According to you geo 1909 every club has a sugar daddy except TALBOT emoji16.png

 

 

Show me where i said that :shutup

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2 hours ago, Blackie Gold said:

Why not spend some money on your bogs before somebody dies of a flesh eating disease?

Haven't laugh at a post as much as this.......quality lol

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Pollok have a fantastic array of commercial sponsors from law and accountancy  firms to pubs and industrial businesses of various scales in addition to the 1908 club where the names of those who wish to be disclosed appear in every match programme and involve many donating £50-100 a month to the club.Thats a very nice foundation of cash every month if you multiply it a couple of hundred times.Lok have never been beholden to the big money men who dipped into clubs and in most cases ruined them e.g. maryhill,Kilwinning,Glenafton,Hurlford,Bellshill,etc



Glenafton ???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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3 hours ago, rednblack said:

You do realise this is nothing special or revolutionary, that many junior clubs do it very well and have been doing it for years.

Even Rob Roy have a under 21s, 19s, 17s and amateur side, with the amateur side and 21s side in particular helped us out in the past and now starting to provide us with players. Given we are currently a premier league team we might only see one or two of the standard to be a part of our squad but in the future that could change. In the future for example if we are a lower league club something which won't happen to Pollok given league reconstruction and the crowds and revenue they get, we though may in the future use far more players from the feeder teams.

 

All in all its nothing genius and no rocket science to it, it's common sense to have these feeder sides under a junior club banner.

 

 

 

No disrespect intended as I feel theres a few too and throw in messages in regards to you and some Pollok followers on here trying to get one over each other but your not speaking to a Pollok fan when you say "I do realise this is nothing special", of course i realise but I'm talking about the extent of the intentions.   (I've no interest on anyone getting one over anyone else on this forum).    I'm speaking as in regards to watching, coaching boys football, experienced junior and boys teams together, as in playing it and also seeing it.  FACT: There are tons of junior teams with affiliations with boys teams but most are just that, a wee game played here and there with the juniors not participating a lot in the youth development which does not help and a lot of junior teams ARE ONLY INTERESTED in finding a good player without too much involvement.  This merger, and I'm sure it isn't the first of a junior team, is about the development of all the youths.  I also started my level 1 coaching badge with the Kirky manager at the time, (name escapes me from 4 years ago) and we talked in length about the plans afoot for the youths
 

In regards to what you say about Kirky Rob Roy, yes totally agree, if they went a lower divisions then there would be a wider scope for using boys at youth level but that would be the same of any team and Pollok were the same. A former Pollok manager told me the exact same when they didn't have that much money they had to use a few boys from the under 21s as they had no option.  The idealism of this merger is on the right tracks, with first team coaches coming to take training session with the boys, the youths also going, usually in pairs to the Junior training for a few weeks at a time. The under 21s will play the under 19s at Newlandsfield for the coaching staff to see the standard they are all at and for the fans to see any potential stars in the making. 

If Rob Roy are sending coaches over to work with the youth and the youth coaches then this is ideal. You may know more than that but if you don't, go and find out for yourself how detailed it is, so you really have it for your own information.  I'm stating it as fact as I am witnessing it all, (and with Pollok), first hand, having sampled being and coaching in boys football for a number of years and seeing the connections not just while coaching but also when I played in junior football for over 10 years and also when I played in a Under 21s team which was part of a junior outfit. 

One thing for sure, everyone's views of a junior team having a youth team under their wing is different ideas in everyone's minds.
I personally believe and know how this should be done and I don't see too Junior teams doing it, but its my views from my vast experience. and will remain so

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1 hour ago, Quantum Leap said:

 

 


Glenafton in the 90,s

 

I Don't remember the early 90s but the 99/2000 season the manager was Alan Rough and in goals was a certain Henry Smith with John McLaren up front, so the standard was high and big money was splashed out. In that year Glenafton were the favourites for the League and Scottish Cup. 

 Lots of teams go through this and to be honest if any team has a sugar daddy, so what. Hurlford did it in the 99/2000 season and quite a few of us signed for big money at the time and our only remit was to get promotion into the Ayrshire Top division, which we did. Previously about 8 years before that, part of Hurlfords stadium was firebombed and there was no money and Hurlford were usually rock bottom of the lowest division, then in 99/2000 a new money man cam in, (think he owned a hotel in Killie), and put money into the team.  A few years later there was a kinda lull again at Hurlford and then ever bigger money came in and the rest was history in regards to Hurlford, well winning the Scottish Cup and big money being paid to players.

I am a Bens fan for my sins and if I has excess money, I'd put it into the Bens.

As I said before there is absolute nothing wrong with a sugar daddy putting money into a team he loves.

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5 minutes ago, Geo61 said:

The rest is history they only won the Scottish cup and nothing else and spent a fortune and before I get reminded Meadow spent a fortune and never won the Scottish cup but went on to win everything else the money men come and go but it's the clubs that's left to pick up the crap when the sugar daddies decide they've had enough fun

Agreed but that's just the normal
If everyone on this forum in regards to junior football and supporting a team do you honestly think that if each person has a vast wealth of money that they wuld put some of that into the team. I do think that would be the case and some might get fed up later on at different times and pull out.

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4 minutes ago, superpollok said:

Pollok have confirmed the signing of Martin McGoldrick from Talbot

Shocked at that............ cracking big fella!

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Agreed the toilets need sorted but I understand Lok are looking at a much bigger change regarding the stadium situation and have been via developers and the City Council. Didnt realise Rob Roy had a formal affiliation with boys/amateur side sharing coaching staff,ground,training facilities,and social facilities as happens at Pollok but it's encouraging to hear that.        

 

You need to pay more attention to the youth team old bean we have played pollok several times at under 21st for example and in same league as them. Our youth team have been training with our first team and next to first team. Our manager and his coaches have been coaching the youth teams several times over the last year or two sometimes in own time. All our coaches at every level work together know each other and communicate with each other. Several coaches were all present at the recent Petershill tournament along with half a dozen youth players featuring for the first team. We have signed up a under 21 player and a former amateur keeper is our number two this season. It's all been done with our stadium in mind and the future.Nothing particularly clever about it loads of clubs are doing it just good common sense and hard work.       

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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