itzdrk Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, callum-ayr said: I would imagine he'd be leaving. Can't do that and train full time with Ayr. He has a part time contract. He doesn't have to train full time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Brechin will save Dumbartons bacon. So typical for us to get relegated when consolidating further next year would be an absolute scoosh. I'd tip Brechin now to get one of the lowest points totals in Championship history. Aye, hopefully they will replace Ayr as next seasons whipping boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Terrace Gazza Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 He has a part time contract. He doesn't have to train full time... He should be punted if possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Aye, hopefully they will replace Ayr as next seasons whipping boys. Doesn't say much for your Dumbarton if they couldn't beat the league whipping boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Back Paddy Flannery Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Doesn't say much for your Dumbarton if they couldn't beat the league whipping boys. We didn't need to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, North Terrace Gazza said: He should be punted if possible Agree. Anyone wishing to remain part time should be free to find a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, itzdrk said: He has a part time contract. He doesn't have to train full time... If that's gonna be allowed then it's back to the part/full time model of before and this commitment to full time is bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazbart Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, UpInTheAyr said: If that's gonna be allowed then it's back to the part/full time model of before and this commitment to full time is bullshit. He's under contract! Nothing to do with it being allowed. He signed a 2 year part time deal so if he wants to stay PT he can. Personally I hope we just free him, surely wouldn't cost that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, UpInTheAyr said: If that's gonna be allowed then it's back to the part/full time model of before and this commitment to full time is bullshit. What do you mean by allowed? The players under contract (those who haven't signed new deals) are part time. This is just an unfortunate circumstance of how our squad structure was at the point we moved full time. It's not like we are being lied to about full time football. Here's a quote of Mccall's i lifted for a blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Allowed in the sense of not trying to actively move those on under a part time contract, or having provisions in their contract which could account for a shift to full time. Because Harkins is in the same boat and i don't think anyone wants to see another season of a part time Harkins. Although McCall did say in his last post match interview that he may try to shift a few still under contract so that may be his intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 I'm sure he is one of the hybrid full time players, trains part time and coaches full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazbart Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 10 minutes ago, UpInTheAyr said: Allowed in the sense of not trying to actively move those on under a part time contract, or having provisions in their contract which could account for a shift to full time. Because Harkins is in the same boat and i don't think anyone wants to see another season of a part time Harkins. Although McCall did say in his last post match interview that he may try to shift a few still under contract so that may be his intent. Unlikely to be provisions in their contracts as full time football was unlikely when Gilmour signed. Its not simple as moving them on there are contracts in place that either need to be bought out or honoured. im pretty sure Harkins was full time last year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hazbart said: Unlikely to be provisions in their contracts as full time football was unlikely when Gilmour signed. Its not simple as moving them on there are contracts in place that either need to be bought out or honoured. im pretty sure Harkins was full time last year too. Gilmour signed a 2 year deal this time last year, potential full time was at least a thought in the club at this time so it's not inconceivable that there could have been some kind of provision. Contracts can also be terminated if both parties agree, and may involve some kind of pay out which doesn't have to be for the full amount. Harkins may have had a full time wage but he wasn't training full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Dumfries Boy(new acc) said: Rankin is a coach at hearts but still trains full time with us so it can be done So was Chris Higgins and he is now with Ayr. We are talking about evening coaching of schoolkids. Its not going to affect full time players training through the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanayr1987 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Gilmour signed a 2 year deal this time last year, potential full time was at least a thought in the club at this time so it's not inconceivable that there could have been some kind of provision. Contracts can also be terminated if both parties agree, and may involve some kind of pay out which doesn't have to be for the full amount. Harkins may have had a full time wage but he wasn't training full time. He was brought to the club as a player/coach but he is technically full time. He will be running training sessions but he will be training full time now i'd imagine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 So was Chris Higgins and he is now with Ayr. We are talking about evening coaching of schoolkids. Its not going to affect full time players training througg the day. Plus it'll bump up their minimum wage salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 Just now, 19QOS19 said: Plus it'll bump up their minimum wage salary I dont know if they will be paid for it. Its probably voluntary for most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazbart Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 11 hours ago, UpInTheAyr said: Gilmour signed a 2 year deal this time last year, potential full time was at least a thought in the club Contracts can also be terminated if both parties agree, and may involve some kind of pay out which doesn't have to be for the full amount. Harkins may have had a full time wage but he wasn't training full time. If you were Brian Gilmour would you accept a lesser pay off if you didn't have another club to go to? He's shite, nobody wants him so he'll just bide his time. the issue here is not that he's not full time it's the fact McCall was daft enough to offer him a 2 year deal last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 If you were Brian Gilmour would you accept a lesser pay off if you didn't have another club to go to? He's shite, nobody wants him so he'll just bide his time. the issue here is not that he's not full time it's the fact McCall was daft enough to offer him a 2 year deal last year. He would get a game for most teams in League One with the exception of us, Raith, Airdrie and Alloa.He's bad but he's not so bad that he wouldn't get in East Fife or Stranraer's starting eleven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum-ayr Posted May 25, 2017 Author Share Posted May 25, 2017 Decent Thursday in store I think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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