jester Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 Yes, the police are involved, as are the Standards Commission. I'm led to believe another complaint has been made to the police regarding the councillor mentioned in the press statement by Peter Owens. This is not a new problem in Airdrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 Former policeman Alan Beveridge statement on Airdrie SNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 On 1 May 2017 at 16:58, jester said: Former policeman Alan Beveridge statement on Airdrie SNP. Auld news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, Glenconner said: Auld news. Exactly. What have the SNP done about it over the last 18 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 On 1 May 2017 at 17:29, strichener said: Exactly. What have the SNP done about it over the last 18 months? Could do what Jim Sillars did in 1977 and expel the entire membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 But doesn't the OP say the police are involved? I think there's a conflation between the alleged nepotism of Labour councillors, and alleged internecine battles in the SNP. They're not the same thing. Ahh sorry, I meant in a wider sense as I originally read it that they were involved in this particular incident, but it seems from subsequent posts that they are involved on a wider scale as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 5 hours ago, strichener said: Exactly. What have the SNP done about it over the last 18 months? Hee-haw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 6 hours ago, cdisaaccie said: NLC is a mess TBH The Labour council group split so much a whole load of their current/former councillors are standing under being the 'Independent Alliance Party' this time round. The SNP group certainly aren't perfect but I'd still expect them to do a better job in charge of NLC going forward - there's enough decent candidates standing from my viewpoint as part of the SNP campaign over in SLC. I disagree that there are enough decent candidates. In Airdrie South we have the absolutely mental situation where Councillor Agnes Coyle who was deselected by the SNP is standing against the SNP. What's mental about that I hear you say. It's just that her husband Michael Coyle was also deselected, appealed and reinstated. How does he thank the SNP? By putting out leaflets endorsing his wife and blanking his actual SNP running mate! Both are running almost identical leaflets in SNP colours and both carry endorsements from the Yoon press poster boy Nationalist Alex Neil. There's so many factions and splits that the North Lanarkshire group is probably the most dysfunctional in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 6 hours ago, Glenconner said: Auld news. I know. That was kind of the point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, jester said: I disagree that there are enough decent candidates. In Airdrie South we have the absolutely mental situation where Councillor Agnes Coyle who was deselected by the SNP is standing against the SNP. What's mental about that I hear you say. It's just that her husband Michael Coyle was also deselected, appealed and reinstated. How does he thank the SNP? By putting out leaflets endorsing his wife and blanking his actual SNP running mate! Both are running almost identical leaflets in SNP colours and both carry endorsements from the Yoon press poster boy Nationalist Alex Neil. There's so many factions and splits that the North Lanarkshire group is probably the most dysfunctional in Scotland. Alex Neil owes me a pound from 1977 when he expelled me from the then Scottish Labour Party. I never even got to a meeting. Chancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Such was the scale of the landslide last time around that an awful lot of people who had been standing on the assumption that they were really just there to make up the numbers in "unwinnable" seats ended up actually getting elected. One would reasonably expect the selection for these candidates to have been somewhat less stringent than in the more realistic targets. It appears that the SNP have directly or indirectly sidelined a significant number of those people who were elected last time. Many of those people think they've been treated unfairly. At least some of them will be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 13 hours ago, Glenconner said: Alex Neil owes me a pound from 1977 when he expelled me from the then Scottish Labour Party. I never even got to a meeting. Chancer. I played 5 a sides against the Glasgow University Scottish Nationalist Association in the early '90s and we lost because they got away with cheating. Nicola Sturgeon wan't plying but she was in charge of GUSNA She owes me an apology Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 17 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: the Glasgow University Scottish Nationalist Association in the early '90s She owes me an apology Corduroy trousers and brown shoes for the boys and tweed skirts for the girls. Alistair and Fiona also known as Nice and Safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted May 3, 2017 Author Share Posted May 3, 2017 On 01/05/2017 at 17:22, Glenconner said: Auld news. Today's News. Better? From The Herald... "BEEFED up police patrols have been requested at polling stations in a troubled election battleground amid claims of candidate intimidation.. Peter Jukes, chief executive of North Lanarkshire Council, has discussed security arrangements with Police Scotland for this Thursday's poll and the follow day's count as footage emerged of a public dispute between rival candidates. Mr Jukes, who as returning officer is responsible for overseeing the ballot, admitted he had discussed "appropriate policing of the election in North Lanarkshire with Police Scotland”. It came as footage of an altercation involving SNP hopeful Sophia Coyle and independent candidate Peter Owens, who is running in the same Airdrie area as her parents, appeared on Facebook. Ms Coyle – flanked by her husband and another man – is filmed at a car boot sale in Lanark 15 miles away from her battleground constituency accusing Mr Owens of selling stolen goods. Mr Owens has since complained to the council that he was intimidated by the trio. Several other councillors raised the issue with the authority’s leader, Labour’s Jim Logue, who passed the matter to the chief executive Mr Owens, a former office manager for local SNP stalwart Alex Neil, is standing in Airdrie South where he will face Ms Coyle’s father Michael, who is standing on an SNP ticket, and mother Agnes, an independent candidate recently de-selected by the party. The family have been linked to the ongoing internal SNP feuding and power struggles in Lanarkshire, with Mr Coyle recently publishing a letter from the police which he insisted clears him of any links to organised crime. The move comes just three weeks after another independent and former SNP councillor, Alan O’Brien, was cleared at Hamilton Sheriff Court of threatening Mr and Mrs Coyle. Mr Jukes said: “The leader of the council brought a video circulating on Facebook to my attention which concerned two candidates. In addition, one of the candidates raised his concerns about the events contained within the video with a depute returning officer. “As chief executive of the council and returning officer I meet with senior police officers on a regular basis and I raised the video with the police among other matters to do with the election. Any determination on criminality is a matter purely for Police Scotland. “I understand that this is a time of particular tension for local politicians and campaigners and I have discussed the appropriate policing of the election in North Lanarkshire with Police Scotland, as I do with any other event which requires police involvement.” Mr Owens said: “My wife has now asked me to reconsider standing as she does not want to spend the next five years living with this type of behaviour hanging over us. But I am determined to go forward. “I have also raised the allegations made against me with my employers.” In a written statement Ms Coyle said “The reason why I went to car boot sale is it’s best to buy plants for my garden and the best place is the Clyde Valley garden centres. “This man seen me first and started videoing me and my friend when I seen him doing this I asked him why he was was videoing me. All I done was ask him questions. He has harassed and stalked myself and my family.” Mr Logue said: “The behaviour demonstrated by an SNP candidate in this video, concerns me greatly. It is clearly an attempt to intimidate another candidate in the election. Whilst political disagreements are normal at this time, in my clear view this goes well beyond that. “I fully support the Returning Officer in any action he deems necessary to ensure the integrity of the elections.” A Police Scotland spokeswoman said: “We can confirm officers met with the Chief Executive and discussed a number of issues, and officers will carry out any further enquiries necessary following this meeting. The election, like any event, will be policed appropriately.” " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Remember the old days when the SNP was full of Alastair's and Fiona's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 On 03/05/2017 at 09:28, Glenconner said: Remember the old days when the SNP was full of Alastair's and Fiona's. Even in Buckfast Country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 On 4 May 2017 at 17:19, topcat(The most tip top) said: Even in Buckfast Country? The So Nice Party. Gordon Wilson and the middle of the roaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 It's taken a while but finally the court has ruled on Scotland's most dysfunctional political group... http://archive.is/Dy90U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 https://archive.fo/Dy90U Sad to see Salmond continuing his squabble with the SNP - his long running spat with Jim Sillars a few years ago did nothing for the credibility of the party. In the interests of Scottish Independence, I very much hope this can be peacefully resolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Does Salmond have a National column? Seen them airing his opinions yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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