Oor Nicola Sturgeon thread.

[Detournement]

Just now, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said:

You mean like Glasgow and Edinburgh which make up a larger percentage of Scotland's population than London and Birmingham do England's?

Have you ever been to London or Birmingham? They are not comparable to Glasgow or (even more so) Edinburgh. 

Yorkshire has a similar population to Scotland but has lower cases and deaths. Either they have a super NHS or it's down to density, household size and number of virus importers. 

[Carnoustie Young Guvnor]

Yes they are, statistically they're extremely comparable. Similar population density, Glasgow and Edinburgh make up over 20% of Scotland's population, London and Birmingham slightly under 20% of England's. 

What's skewing English figures is ten years of monsters in Downing Street dismantling their health system whilst the Scottish government has been desperately protecting ours as well as it can that whole time. This is the result,we also out lockdown measures in place earlier.

Blanket DNR orders going out to care homes in England which doctors are signing on people's behalf even if they refuse. That isn't happening in Scotland.

[HTG]

1 hour ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said:

I suppose it is a fair point though, its not like Glasgow has a subway system. Or Edinburgh any mass transit systems. Its not like they're in the country that invented the car and the road it drives on or anything. We're mostly horse and cart like.

Having significant experience of Edinburgh and London, they're not in the same league. Edinburgh mass transit is toytown compared to London.

[Alan Stubbs]

It's a really stupid tweet for a politician to put out and the SNP has a general issue with some of the slavers in their ranks posting cringey shite all the time (Angus MacNeil being the worst offender).

What would the reaction have been if Scotland had twice the rate of deaths as England though? The SNP would be getting absolutely slaughtered from every direction. I dare say the folk getting most upset about that tweet would be the first people to bring it up.

[Detournement]

Scotland inventing cars and roads is some claim.

[AUFC90]

Scotland inventing cars and roads is some claim.

We invented the first modern roads unless you're trying to claim that roads built with loads of different rocks thousands of years ago are in any way comparable.

 

[Savage Henry]

Scotland inventing cars and roads is some claim.

Tar. We might be able to claim that. Which is kind of like roads, I guess. But not really.

[The_Kincardine]

5 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

 

Tar. We might be able to claim that. Which is kind of like roads, I guess. But not really.

 

A bit more than that.  Telford could claim to be have made the first truly modern roads.A Scotsman living in England building roads?  That's yer case for the union right there.

[Detournement]

10 minutes ago, AUFC90 said:

We invented the first modern roads unless you're trying to claim that roads built with loads of different rocks thousands of years ago are in any way comparable.

 

There were (and are) roads that aren't tarmac. 

[AUFC90]

There were (and are) roads that aren't tarmac. 

So who designed the first modern roads then because it wasn't Telford ?  

 

Go as far to say Ayr invented it.

 

And it's not the material it's how it was lain that defined it. Macadam didn't use asphalt concrete either.

 

 

 

[Carnoustie Young Guvnor]

1 hour ago, HTG said:

Having significant experience of Edinburgh and London, they're not in the same league. Edinburgh mass transit is toytown compared to London.

It's irrelevant if London's is bigger proportionally they will be very similar. So the arguments about population density are moot.

[DrewDon]

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Drinking pints of Dettol to own the Natters. 

[The_Kincardine]

On 16/04/2020 at 17:29, AUFC90 said:

So who designed the first modern roads then because it wasn't Telford ?  

Pretty sure it was Telford.

[Baxter Parp]

23 hours ago, DrewDon said:

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Drinking pints of Dettol to own the Natters. 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

He's a far right scumbag who's appeared on Question Time

[Antlion]

On 16/04/2020 at 17:16, The_Kincardine said:

A bit more than that.  Telford could claim to be have made the first truly modern roads.A Scotsman living in England building roads?  That's yer case for the union right there.

In the same way Alexander Graham Bell  is proof positive Scotland should be the 51st state of the USA.

Edited April 26, 2020 by Antlion

[renton]

There is a bit of stick for sturgeon coming for not deviating early from the WM Herd strategy and not using Scotland's devolved powers to push a trace-test-isolate strategy independent of WM.

It should be noted that those giving her stick include the Wings Sphere of Cybernat weirdos, the Common Weal think tank who tend to attract the professional and middle class Indy supporters and the Mail on Sunday who will claim to represent the soft mushy small c conservative No grouping.

That's a fairly broad spectrum of influences who have a negative view of her Covid pandemic performance, and the real danger to her is that the same forces being lined up to hammer the Tories now come after her. Of course there is a huge irony in the people who write the Daily Record complaining about lack of deviation from WM, and of charting our own path but nevertheless if it's an opinion that sticks, then long term it's not a good look for the 2021 elections.

[Carnoustie Young Guvnor]

27 minutes ago, renton said:

There is a bit of stick for sturgeon coming for not deviating early from the WM Herd strategy and not using Scotland's devolved powers to push a trace-test-isolate strategy independent of WM.

It should be noted that those giving her stick include the Wings Sphere of Cybernat weirdos, the Common Weal think tank who tend to attract the professional and middle class Indy supporters and the Mail on Sunday who will claim to represent the soft mushy small c conservative No grouping.

That's a fairly broad spectrum of influences who have a negative view of her Covid pandemic performance, and the real danger to her is that the same forces being lined up to hammer the Tories now come after her. Of course there is a huge irony in the people who write the Daily Record complaining about lack of deviation from WM, and of charting our own path but nevertheless if it's an opinion that sticks, then long term it's not a good look for the 2021 elections.

Tbh I don't think that's a danger at all. All of them come at her full force all the time, all of them will be in full war footing propaganda attack and smear more from now until 2021 election. Same as they were in 2019, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2011....And still the SNP are polling over 50%. They own Scottish politics now, and rightly so.

[Hymlick Manouvre]

They certainly do own Scottish politics now, which adds up to a whole load of nothing. A one trick party and no one is interested in the trick anymore as Westminster  yet again has to bankroll the country.

[doulikefish]

Poor malky never got any attention from his mammy when he was a bairn