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The whole trans/self ID reforms has been shelved for now by the SNP so hopefully people can get back to the main goal of Independence. After that they can set up self ID, non self ID parties to fight their corners. Folk like Jordon and Mr Malky get to much of a platform to spout their shite because they have hooked their wagons to the Indy cause.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/11/27/snp-manifesto-scottish-national-party-gender-recognition-act-lgbt-policies/

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1 hour ago, dirty dingus said:

The whole trans/self ID reforms has been shelved for now by the SNP so hopefully people can get back to the main goal of Independence. After that they can set up self ID, non self ID parties to fight their corners. Folk like Jordon and Mr Malky get to much of a platform to spout their shite because they have hooked their wagons to the Indy cause.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/11/27/snp-manifesto-scottish-national-party-gender-recognition-act-lgbt-policies/

It's a major problem, there is now a huge number of entryists, the head of the student wing even said he'd be happy to delay indy by years just to sort out the self-ID nonsense (which of course he backs). It beggars belief that someone inside the party could spout that drivel. 

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1 hour ago, MixuFixit said:


Joanna Cherry, whose efforts to make SNP vetting processes looser, directly precipitating the Kirkcaldy debacle can be accused of not thinking strategically on this issue, yes. But what's new there.

The notion that what the SNP needed was less stringent vetting of candidates, having previously allowed the likes of McGarry and Thomson to become MPs, is quite funny. Cherry’s belief that she’s future leadership material rather than backbench fodder at best is hilarious.

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I doubt more than a few angry twitterers inspired by Bathboy give a toss if a vanishingly small number of people wish to describe their gender as different from the sex they were born into. It's utterly bizarre that it's become a divisive issue in the SNP.

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The notion that what the SNP needed was less stringent vetting of candidates, having previously allowed the likes of McGarry and Thomson to become MPs, is quite funny. Cherry’s belief that she’s future leadership material rather than backbench fodder at best is hilarious.

She's the SNP version of Murdo Fraser or Miles Briggs. Very good at attacking & useful when restricted to that, but definitely not a leader. She just hasn't got the memo.

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Cherry has been very impressive at Westminster tbf. She’s one of the leading reasons why no deal Brexit has been prevented so far.

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1 minute ago, Donathan said:

Cherry has been very impressive at Westminster tbf. She’s one of the leading reasons why no deal Brexit has been prevented so far.

I think she's a much better lawyer than politician.

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The second debate in 48 hours and I'm still none the wiser as to who the nerd the Tories keep putting up is.

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Nicola stealing the show, yet again, on the ITV debate. 

Really got the Manchester audience on her side.

Agree with GTG-03 on Adam Price - passionate debater who also talks so much sense.

 

 

Edited by ICTJohnboy

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Absolutely bossed it on Nicky Campbell's phone in this morning.

Even got in a dig about Corbyn losing his principles since he became leader, and a dig about how lucky Campbell will be to spend time with Farage tomorrow.

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Absolutely bossed it on Nicky Campbell's phone in this morning.
Even got in a dig about Corbyn losing his principles since he became leader, and a dig about how lucky Campbell will be to spend time with Farage tomorrow.
Would agree entirely with this. Strolled it, with even Nicky Campbell's weak trip up attempts barely bothering her. She has a natural way with the general public that no other politician has, not even the fabled Corbyn.

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In this day and age of lies and deceit in politics, she’s pretty unique. Scotland is lucky to have her.

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On 02/12/2019 at 19:50, BucksburnDandy said:
On 02/12/2019 at 10:18, Mark Connolly said:
Absolutely bossed it on Nicky Campbell's phone in this morning.
Even got in a dig about Corbyn losing his principles since he became leader, and a dig about how lucky Campbell will be to spend time with Farage tomorrow.

Would agree entirely with this. Strolled it, with even Nicky Campbell's weak trip up attempts barely bothering her. She has a natural way with the general public that no other politician has, not even the fabled Corbyn.

Although it was always intended as a laugh, both my other half and I noticed how she looked the most comfortable on that Scotsquad Election Special whilst the other looked rather uncomfortable (Leonard the worst, Rennie less so).  She clearly has a relationship with people that other politicians struggle to match, with no need for the all too common 'keeping up appearances' act.

Worth watching on iPlayer if just for the 'bam or no bam' section.

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Michael Gove?

Have you met him?

BAM!

 

... also Jackson Carlaw just stopping short of calling Master Boris a bam too.  :lol:

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On 01/12/2019 at 10:00, welshbairn said:

I doubt more than a few angry twitterers inspired by Bathboy give a toss if a vanishingly small number of people wish to describe their gender as different from the sex they were born into. It's utterly bizarre that it's become a divisive issue in the SNP.

Proxy war for the upcoming Salmond case is probably part of it. The most positive thing about Sturgeon's resounding win yesterday is that it will hopefully put these c***s back in their box for a while. My MSP seemed pretty pissed off that they had shelved GRA reform and seemed to suggest that it would be back next year. A small issue for many, but imo, would do some measure of reassuring me that the SNP can still be a vehicle for progressive politics before independence.

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49 minutes ago, Colkitto said:

Sturgeon has played a blinder in this election, it's as simple as that!

She has.  That said I am disappointed that the SNP supported a GE rather than pushing for resolution of Brexit in the last Parliament.

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