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Just now, Bishop Briggs said:

So is Sturgeon a Royalist or was she telling lies to court the pro-Monarchy vote?

Don’t know, probably the latter for which I would offer no criticism at all.

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Just now, Granny Danger said:

Don’t know, probably the latter for which I would offer no criticism at all.

So it's okay for Sturgeon to tell lies but other politicians should be prosecuted or forced to resign for doing so.

You're a typical politician who treats honesty and integrity with utter contempt. 

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4 minutes ago, Bishop Briggs said:

So it's okay for Sturgeon to tell lies but other politicians should be prosecuted or forced to resign for doing so.

You're a typical politician who treats honesty and integrity with utter contempt. 

Go away.  You’re annoying me and embarrassing yourself.

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2 minutes ago, spongeheid15 said:

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Clearly an arch-unionist. The worst sort of unionist.

One that calls for a referendum, in 2023 apparently, and just to show how devoted to the union she is she'll hold one and campaign to win!

Devious.

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Jonathan Shafi is a divisive figure (RISE were a joke, and his antics over trying to disolve the Radical Independence Campaign lost him a lot of credibility), but his new long-form analyses of Scottish politics seem pretty convincing to me.

Shall we say he's not at all optimistic about the prospect of another referendum, and increasingly sees the SNP ar corporate, right wing, and much more interested in appearing "reasonable" on issues such as NATO membership, and in not rocking the boat generally, than in the votes and motivations of the membership.

A long read, but worthwhile. https://jonathonshafi.substack.com/p/tipping-point?s=r

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3 minutes ago, Ivo den Bieman said:

Jonathan Shafi is a divisive figure (RISE were a joke, and his antics over trying to disolve the Radical Independence Campaign lost him a lot of credibility), but his new long-form analyses of Scottish politics seem pretty convincing to me.

Shall we say he's not at all optimistic about the prospect of another referendum, and increasingly sees the SNP ar corporate, right wing, and much more interested in appearing "reasonable" on issues such as NATO membership, and in not rocking the boat generally, than in the votes and motivations of the membership.

A long read, but worthwhile. https://jonathonshafi.substack.com/p/tipping-point?s=r

Is the RIC still on the go then?  I was under the impression that it actually did disband.

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3 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

Is the RIC still on the go then?  I was under the impression that it actually did disband.

Shafi tried to dissolve it but it seems the majority of the RIC ignored him and have carried on. It was always a movement based on local branches rather than an all-powerful national leadership. The attitude of the branches seems to have been "Oh, you're leaving? Bye then."

The RIC have had national meetings on a couple of occasions since Shafi and the Trot cadres departure.

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2 minutes ago, Ivo den Bieman said:

Shafi tried to dissolve it but it seems the majority of the RIC ignored him and have carried on. It was always a movement based on local branches rather than an all-powerful national leadership. The attitude of the branches seems to have been "Oh, you're leaving? Bye then."

The RIC have had national meetings on a couple of occasions since Shafi and the Trot cadres departure.

Cheers mate.

As a Unionist, I always considered them to be a formidable force.  They did a lot of effective work in the schemes.

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8 minutes ago, Lurkst said:

Clearly supports the union of the crowns but not the parliaments. Move along...

 

Invited to official shindig in her capacity as FM, makes diplomatic smalltalk with Queen, mentions independence.

She's good.

Didn't get booed either.

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36 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

You're going to be in for a shock, Zern.

I'm seeing a lot of talk about 2023. Mention of budgeting even.

I'm sure it's nothing.

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Sturgeon is a great politican and has made the SNP a lot more accessible than under Salmond. She's very good at what she does and when she leaves for her NGO or UN job I'll remember her in a relatively positive light. I think the weird twitter lesbian stuff is really disgusting and bottom of the barrel smear stuff. There's definitely too many wrong uns in the Unionst camp at the moment. 

What I do fault her on is how she has morphed the SNP into being some establishment career politican gravy train hub. Perhaps a long game strategy... I can certainly see why Alba Das get frustrated at her tactics and act up, also I think her selective amnesia during the internal enquiry was deplorable, nowhere near Boris and his lies but still pretty shameful for what most people would want a functioning accountable democracy to look like. 

SNP face the same political cyclical problem that the Tories are going through where due to their dedication to winning rather than anything politically substantive they don't have anyone that looks anywhere near being capable of matching their current leaders. 

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2 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

Fancy a wager?

If a referendum is held in 2023 you win, and if not then it's yet another win for the Freshener?

There it is again.

2023, and referendum

Everyone's talking about it. Even those who would supposedly not vote.

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12 minutes ago, Zern said:

There it is again.

2023, and referendum

Everyone's talking about it. Even those who would supposedly not vote.

 

7 minutes ago, Duries Air Freshener said:

Not only are you unable to counter my points, but you're unable to put your money where your mouth is too.

Cool your jets, you two, FFS!

Much more fun is to be had by pointing and laughing at the Natwits!

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