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11 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said:

Yep, nothing is being cleared up either way here. Salmond & Sturgeon are brilliant operators whilst the MSPs asking questions are utterly dreadful and not made a single breakthrough.

All that's been proven is that Salmond & Sturgeon are the two most effective and impactful politicians this country has seen IMO.

I'd take Robin Cook over either of them. Brown as well.

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Just now, EdinburghPar1975 said:

Random question...anyone watching online? My BBC feed got interrupted by old black and white film about Prince Philip - Beeb gearing up for something coming?

Still not seen this smoking gun that will bring down Sturgeon...

https://www.scottishparliament.tv/channel/committee-room-1

This link is better.

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Fraser again spewing shite about 29th March. If Hamilton and Pringle were not present at the meeting, they can not 'corroborate' what Aberdein is claiming was said in the meeting. They can only testify as to what Aberdein said happened in the meeting, and this is 'hearsay', not 'corroboration'.

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4 minutes ago, Forever_blueco said:

Genuine question 

 

do people genuinely believe she just completely forgot about a meeting she had where these allegations were briefed to her 

No one has said how much detail was briefed. No one has produced any evidence of who said what at that meeting except that a future meeting was arranged for Alex Salmond to visit Nicola at home.

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6 minutes ago, Forever_blueco said:

Genuine question 

 

do people genuinely believe she just completely forgot about a meeting she had where these allegations were briefed to her 

She's never claimed she was briefed about the allegations on the 29th. This is a deliberate misrepresentation NS's opponents are continuing to pursue in order to try and claim she has something to hide.

Sturgeon has admitted that it was clear to her on 29th March that 'something was afoot', but she only became aware of the actual specifics of the allegations on 2nd April

There's a difference between being aware something was up, and being fully aware of exactly what. 

This is a stooshie over absolutely nothing.

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I'd like to see Sturgeon asked if she believes Woman H was at Bute House the night of the alleged attempted rape. She's gave enough comments today about Salmond's actions that it shouldn't be out of bounds. 

That's basically what everything boils down considering H's role in organising the other complainers.

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2 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said:

She's never claimed she was briefed about the allegations on the 29th. This is a deliberate misrepresentation NS's opponents are continuing to pursue in order to try and claim she has something to hide.

Sturgeon has admitted that it was clear to her on 29th March that 'something was afoot', but she only became aware of the actual specifics of the allegations on 2nd April

There's a difference between being aware something was up, and being fully aware of exactly what. 

This is a stooshie over absolutely nothing.

How can she be clear that nothing brought up if she states she can’t remember details of the meeting ? 
 

Any court or lawyer would wipe the floor with that defence 

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1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said:
1 hour ago, Gordon EF said:
I think it's becoming apparent that leaning so hard into the conspiracy aspects of this was a strategically poor decision by the anti-Sturgeon camp because it the outcome is 'The SG's policy was poor and was handled poorly" and nothing more, it's going to be perceived as a pretty crushing victory for the SG.

Yeh, but who is going to report that?

Good point.

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3 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said:

Fraser again spewing shite about 29th March. If Hamilton and Pringle were not present at the meeting, they can not 'corroborate' what Aberdein is claiming was said in the meeting. They can only testify as to what Aberdein said happened in the meeting, and this is 'hearsay', not 'corroboration'.

Yea, this is the issue. Was saying to someone else but if you're Salmond or whoever then you're surely spewing at this line of questioning given it's so easily swatted away (as it has been by Sturgeon) as confusing hearsay with corroboration. This is rank amateur stuff.

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1 minute ago, Forever_blueco said:

How can she be clear that nothing brought up if she states she can’t remember details of the meeting ? 

Because she's been quite emphatic at her absolute horror when the details of the allegations, and Salmond's explanation of one in particular, were laid bare to her on 2nd April, thanks to speaking to Salmond himself, and seeing the letter he brought with him.

If that was her reaction, I'm sure it would have been the same had this been relayed to her on 29th March, and she would have no issue recalling it.

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