Oor Nicola Sturgeon thread.

[SANTAN]

5 minutes ago, zidane's child said:

Need to give it to her, Nicola is doing a good job here with the questions being asked.

Well she'd have to be particularly stupid to miss the tap ins from her fellow party member..

[MONKMAN]

Margaret Mitchell and her scripted questioning of Nicola Sturgeon, is the political equivalent of East Fife taking on Bayern Munich.

[mozam76]

3 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

Margaret Mitchell and her scripted questioning of Nicola Sturgeon, is the political equivalent of East Fife taking on Bayern Munich.

Just as well it's not Gretna vs Real Madrid then because according to Tommy Sheridan, Gretna are unbeaten against the Spanish giants.

[Ross.]

8 minutes ago, Forever_blueco said:

She isn’t really . A lot of waffle and just looking to bad mouth Salmond . 

Given many unionists and political commentators were predicting this would lead to her demise, I would say she is doing well enough out of it so far.

[gannonball]

9 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

Margaret Mitchell and her scripted questioning of Nicola Sturgeon, is the political equivalent of East Fife taking on Bayern Munich.

Due to her sniping and as to where she thinks should be I have her more down as Clyde. Absolutely struggling to stay relevant as well.

Edited March 3, 2021 by gannonball

[D Angelo Barksdale]

28 minutes ago, NotThePars said:

Watching a bit of this. If the SNP aren't moronic enough to dispense with the most popular leader in the UK by some distance and shoot the independence cause in the foot to stave off bad headlines from a cacophony of the worst and most dishonest actors in the country I'll vote for Bob Doris in May.

[EdinburghPar1975]

Had to mute thanks to a boring work call but from what i've seen so far NS seems to be handling the main points well and is able to provide a detailed response as to reasoning, there's a bit of waffle around why it was taking too long to release bits and pieces but on the part they're discussing just now about why a new procedure was needed, and at that time, she seems to have answered that pretty well IMO. 

From what i've seen so far the only findings they're likely to have is that she didn't breach the ministerial code (she might have stretched it though) but Scot Gov should be more open and speedy with documentation requests.

[Gordon EF]

1 hour ago, Forever_blueco said:

Tories are bad so the SNP can do as they please type post 

There is an element of whataboutery about this but there is a decent point. If most of the folk howling for Sturgeon's resignation kept quiet when it was a Tory, it suggests that they don't really think the Sturgeon allegations are a resigning matter. And if the people who really want her to resign don't even think she should resign, it kind of says something.

[Forever_blueco]

2 minutes ago, Gordon EF said:

There is an element of whataboutery about this but there is a decent point. If most of the folk howling for Sturgeon's resignation kept quiet when it was a Tory, it suggests that they don't really think the Sturgeon allegations are a resigning matter. And if the people who really want her to resign don't even think she should resign, it kind of says something.

Any politician up to their necks in corruption or incompetent enough to let it flourish under their regime deserves to be held to account . Couldn’t give a f**k if they are tories , SNP or the Monster Raving Loony party . 
 

it’s quite clear that some in Scotland are happy for some corruption as long it’s based near Arthur’s seat. Bizzare train of thought 

[John Lambies Doos]

When does the committee report back with final findings?

[Gordon EF]

Just now, Forever_blueco said:

Any politician up to their necks in corruption or incompetent enough to let it flourish under their regime deserves to be held to account . Couldn’t give a f**k if they are tories , SNP or the Monster Raving Loony party . 
 

it’s quite clear that some in Scotland are happy for some corruption as long it’s based near Arthur’s seat. Bizzare train of thought 

Well... yeah. Some people are completely partisan. If you've howled for Tories to resign for breaching ministerial code but don't think Sturgeon should resign if she'd found to have done so or you've howled for Sturgeon to resign when you haven't done the same for Tories, your opinion pretty much isn't worth listening to.

Let's not pretend there's not people like this on all sides.

[D Angelo Barksdale]

If I wanted to be taken seriously as a noble crusader against corruption, I would simply just not be a member or voter of the Conservative party.

[Gordon EF]

3 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said:

If I wanted to be taken seriously as a noble crusader against corruption, I would simply just not be a member or voter of the Conservative party.

Wrong answer. What you should really do is become a Tory minister and then hand out millions of pounds worth of contracts to friends and family. Because you already know them, you know 100% they're not corrupt and are therefore eliminating all possibility of corruption.

Edited March 3, 2021 by Gordon EF

[SANTAN]

Here we go. 

[jamamafegan]

My issue is that the Tories are clambering over one another to scream resign at Nicola before we’ve even established if she’s been involved in any wrongdoing. However when it comes to one of their own such as Priti Patel breaking the code, Hancock giving out PPE contracts to his mates, Dominic Cummings refusing to resign for breaking lockdown etc etc - they are silent or worse they offer them their full support. This is just one of the many reasons why the Tories are certified scum.

The Unionist posters on this forum can give it the whole “whataboutery” chat all they like, it doesn’t matter and nobody cares - it’s a fact that the Tories have a track record of behaving like this and are getting away with it. If the Tories of PnB had any decency, any self respect, they would step forward and accept this. But no, they won’t because SNPBAD.

Tories = absolute scum of the earth

Thank you.

[GiGi]

4 minutes ago, Gordon EF said:

There is an element of whataboutery about this but there is a decent point. If most of the folk howling for Sturgeon's resignation kept quiet when it was a Tory, it suggests that they don't really think the Sturgeon allegations are a resigning matter. And if the people who really want her to resign don't even think she should resign, it kind of says something.

There's also the normalisation of corruption and poor ministerial conduct in Westminster that it doesn't produce scandal any more. It does rankle that the media are causing such a frenzy over this investigation - and they should, within the facts, if Scot Gov is to retain any credibility - but where is this doggedness to see the Priti Patels, the Matt Hancocks resign before evidence is given?

You're right that it is whataboutery but it is still wrong that these things are so unequal.

[Gordon EF]

1 minute ago, GiGi said:

There's also the normalisation of corruption and poor ministerial conduct in Westminster that it doesn't produce scandal any more. It does rankle that the media are causing such a frenzy over this investigation - and they should, within the facts, if Scot Gov is to retain any credibility - but where is this doggedness to see the Priti Patels, the Matt Hancocks resign before evidence is given?

You're right that it is whataboutery but it is still wrong that these things are so unequal.

Absolutely. It was hilarious to read back about Henry McLeish and Wendy Alexander falling nobly on their swords for transgressions that'd barely make the papers these days. Part of that normalisation is also a complete desensitisation to "STURGEON MUST RESIGN" types. If you've been saying this for 6 years, saying it now has lost all weight.

[SANTAN]

Gets answered one tough question and it's suddenly "can't answer" and "to the best of my recollection". 

Starting to liven up now the SNP Sturgeon support group at the committee have finally made way. 

[O'Kelly Isley III]

Gets answered one tough question and it's suddenly "can't answer" and "to the best of my recollection". 
Starting to liven up now the SNP Sturgeon support group at the committee have finally made way. 

Poor reception in the Borders ?

[Detournement]

5 minutes ago, jamamafegan said:

My issue is that the Tories are clambering over one another to scream resign at Nicola before we’ve even established if she’s been involved in any wrongdoing. However when it comes to one of their own such as Priti Patel breaking the code, Hancock giving out PPE contracts to his mates, Dominic Cummings refusing to resign for breaking lockdown etc etc - they are silent or worse they offer them their full support. This is just one of the many reasons why the Tories are certified scum.

The Unionist posters on this forum can give it the whole “whataboutery” chat all they like, it doesn’t matter and nobody cares - it’s a fact that the Tories have a track record of behaving like this and are getting away with it. If the Tories of PnB had any decency, any self respect, they would step forward and accept this. But no, they won’t because SNPBAD.

Tories = absolute scum of the earth

Thank you.

Generally parties don't call for their own MPs to quit.

Unlike Kieth the Tories understand what opposition means.