Oor Nicola Sturgeon thread.

[The_Kincardine]

4 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

The stuff on education is nonsense - the issues go way back more than 7 years - to the time of McConnell.

The ScotchNats have had 15 years and a Barnett Bonus of about £2,500 ppa to sort out education in Scotland.

They have failed.  Their failure is entirely down to the likes of you who keep voting for them but come on here and shed crocodile tears.

You are complicit in the shitshow that is modern Scotland.

[git-intae-thum]

1 hour ago, sophia said:

A retail company, as has already been established, is something to be so far away from and our Scottish government wisely decided to ditch this idea.

Distribution (being responsible for the pylons etc) is heavily regulated and whereas there is scope for advantage, I'd suggest it is marginal.

That leaves two areas.

In the here and now, identifying and developing power station opportunities wherever they may be, is a long term and specialist activity that has been left to the private sector for all of this century and an offshore wind farm may take a decade to even start to build. Your two years is fanciful and I'm not even sure if a government agency can sit beside private enterprises. The capital costs are enormous.

As it stands, operating the power stations and benefiting from the wholesale price is where the gold is.

The answer in the context of what we have been presented with by Westminster is simple, fairly tax each and every MWh. Give or take the word fairly, this is where we are. 

It is a huge shift to revert to nationalism and anyone who suggests that this would be easy is either ill informed or playing to the gallery.

This isn't to say that there is a better way to do it, there almost certainly is but for now we're stuck with Tory of whatever shade.

 

 

 

 

 

This is incoherent.

Criticising the SNP is not endorsing the the current shambles of how the UK govt runs things.

Its about wanting the best for the future of (hopefully) independent Scotland.

10 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I don't see any mention of where the capital investment is coming from to achieve this.

 

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/23152165.wales-set-public-energy-firm-scots-gov-blows-plan/

"The company - yet to be named - will initially look at developing onshore wind farms on Welsh government-owned woodland estate, which covers 6% of Wales and is largely made up of hilly, windy sites."

TBH what Wales does doesn't really concern me. But good luck to them. I hope it is a resounding success. 

With regards to Scotland....it is just going to be more than a little bit shit in the coming decades watching the profits of our energy resource going into the public finances of France, Denmark, Sweden, Ireland, Norway, Spain, China, UAE etc etc........because their public or part public owned energy companies leased our renewables on the cheap in January 2022.

Thats before BP, Shell etc take their share out. 

 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

3 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

The ScotchNats have had 15 years and a Barnett Bonus of about £2,500 ppa to sort out education in Scotland.

They have failed.  Their failure is entirely down to the likes of you who keep voting for them but come on here and shed crocodile tears.

You are complicit in the shitshow that is modern Scotland.

Did you actually read what I said.

In education it doesn't matter which party is in charge - it's the same education mafia that make the decisions.

BTW - it isn't that different in England when it comes to education policy - again dominated by so-called gurus with minimal experience of schools and yet somehow lauded as "experts".

 

[The_Kincardine]

2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Did you actually read what I said.

Unfortunately yes.  It was your usual mealy-mouthed pish.  "Scottish education is going down the stank but do not ever blame the HR administration.  It's someone else's fault."

2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

BTW - it isn't that different in England when it comes to education policy.

Half right.

England has two saving graces - grammar school and free schools.  Both are free from local authority intervention and both produce remarkable results.

You'd hate them.   They both require you to teach rather than whine incessantly about 'the education mafia'.

[MacDonald Jardine]

5 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

The stuff on education is nonsense - the issues go way back more than 7 years - to the time of McConnell.

It doesn't matter who politically is in charge of education when we have the same failed education "experts" directing the policy - we won't have success. The continued chasing after whatever fad idea of the moment is (often imported from abroad) instead of concentrating on getting the basics right.

I am genuinely glad I'll be retiring in the next 4 years because it won't change while we have the same people playing education buzzword bingo.

Right.

So we vote for a government and it doesn't matter who because no party could deal with the shitshow anyway?

[DeeTillEhDeh]

38 minutes ago, MacDonald Jardine said:

Right.

So we vote for a government and it doesn't matter who because no party could deal with the shitshow anyway?

More that no party is willing to challenge the existing orthodoxy.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

48 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

Unfortunately yes.  It was your usual mealy-mouthed pish.  "Scottish education is going down the stank but do not ever blame the HR administration.  It's someone else's fault."

Half right.

England has two saving graces - grammar school and free schools.  Both are free from local authority intervention and both produce remarkable results.

You'd hate them.   They both require you to teach rather than whine incessantly about 'the education mafia'.

I suggest you withdraw that last remark. Absolutely no need for it.

[The_Kincardine]

6 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

I suggest you withdraw that last remark. Absolutely no need for it.

Sure.  Happy to.  Talk me through why I should, though.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

8 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

Sure.  Happy to.  Talk me through why I should, though.

You can question my political opinions but don't ever question my professional capacities.

 

[The_Kincardine]

1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

You can question my political opinions but don't ever question my professional capacities.

We've done this shite before.  You're as dull as ditchwater on here without an original thought in your head.  In addition, you constantly make the same "drunk joke" in your ignorant and cack-handed way.

You will be as tedious in the classroom as you are on the  forum and your retirement can't come soon enough.

All I have seen of your "professional capacities" is that you're the worst sort of whiny drone.

I've no doubt you're a decent sort at heart - and I've said this before - but just try and behave yourself.

[sophia]

6 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

 as dull as ditchwater

without an original thought in your head.  

tedious 

just try and behave yourself.

 

[sophia]

8 hours ago, git-intae-thum said:

This is incoherent.

Criticising the SNP is not endorsing the the current shambles of how the UK govt runs things.

Its about wanting the best for the future of (hopefully) independent Scotland.

 

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/homenews/23152165.wales-set-public-energy-firm-scots-gov-blows-plan/

"The company - yet to be named - will initially look at developing onshore wind farms on Welsh government-owned woodland estate, which covers 6% of Wales and is largely made up of hilly, windy sites."

TBH what Wales does doesn't really concern me. But good luck to them. I hope it is a resounding success. 

With regards to Scotland....it is just going to be more than a little bit shit in the coming decades watching the profits of our energy resource going into the public finances of France, Denmark, Sweden, Ireland, Norway, Spain, China, UAE etc etc........because their public or part public owned energy companies leased our renewables on the cheap in January 2022.

Thats before BP, Shell etc take their share out. 

 

It is far from incoherent and I was merely trying to help.

Criticise the SNP if you must but energy policy is reserved.

I'm pretty sure we all want the best for us when and after we regain the rest of our decision making but for the moment the energy market is a construct of Westminster and I'm not at all sure tinkering around the edges of that by a public agency new start would be effective.

I'm not sure the licences to develop areas of the North Sea were undersold but in any case, I've already pointed you in the direction of capping income so I guess there is a way of mitigating against obscene profits

[DeeTillEhDeh]

8 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

We've done this shite before.  You're as dull as ditchwater on here without an original thought in your head.  In addition, you constantly make the same "drunk joke" in your ignorant and cack-handed way.

You will be as tedious in the classroom as you are on the  forum and your retirement can't come soon enough.

All I have seen of your "professional capacities" is that you're the worst sort of whiny drone.

I've no doubt you're a decent sort at heart - and I've said this before - but just try and behave yourself.

My results and the feedback from pupil voice would say otherwise.

You really don't know me.

And if you bothered to engage your brain you'd realise my views on education existing before my support for independence and the SNP (who I now have left BTW).

The comments I made were as much a critcism of the current Scottish Government as their predecessors - the political parties - and that includes the Tories are just not willing to tackle the elephant in the room.

The types of curricular thinking that dominate UK (not just Scottish) Education are known as constructivism. The essence of this view is that studying bodies of knowledge is pedagogically ineffective. The theory states that knowledge goes quickly out of date, and learning it is dull. Children emerge allegedly unable to think for themselves, unskilled for work in the new economy, and unprepared to act as democratic citizens. Instead, children should be enabled to construct knowledge for themselves. 

The basis of the curriculum in UK schools is just a revivified version of 1960s theory supported by OECD advisers. It is increasingly clear from international comparisons that neglecting knowledge is educationally disastrous.

 

Edited February 4, 2023 by DeeTillEhDeh

[Benjamin_Nevis]

8 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

Unfortunately yes.  It was your usual mealy-mouthed pish.  "Scottish education is going down the stank but do not ever blame the HR administration.  It's someone else's fault."

You'd hate them.   They both require you to teach rather than whine incessantly about 'the education mafia'.

 

6 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:

We've done this shite before.  You're as dull as ditchwater on here without an original thought in your head.  In addition, you constantly make the same "drunk joke" in your ignorant and cack-handed way.

You will be as tedious in the classroom as you are on the  forum and your retirement can't come soon enough.

All I have seen of your "professional capacities" is that you're the worst sort of whiny drone.

 

This, from an abject fantasist who regularly complains about abusive behaviour 

[moses1924]

Getting the thread back on topic, didnt realize NS had been first minister for coming on 8 years, that must be a long time for a countrie's leader, I wonder what her exit plan is as that must have taken a toll, lead the party into a de-facto referendum then step down?

[Fullerene]

8 years = 60 Truss + 18 days.

[SandyCromarty]

On 04/02/2023 at 00:56, The_Kincardine said:

We've done this shite before.  You're as dull as ditchwater on here without an original thought in your head.  In addition, you constantly make the same "drunk joke" in your ignorant and cack-handed way.

You will be as tedious in the classroom as you are on the  forum and your retirement can't come soon enough.

All I have seen of your "professional capacities" is that you're the worst sort of whiny drone.

I've no doubt you're a decent sort at heart - and I've said this before - but just try and behave yourself.

The sweaty sock pontificating.

[SandyCromarty]

On 04/02/2023 at 08:27, moses1924 said:

Getting the thread back on topic, didnt realize NS had been first minister for coming on 8 years, that must be a long time for a countrie's leader, I wonder what her exit plan is as that must have taken a toll, lead the party into a de-facto referendum then step down?

Angus is lined up to take over.

[SandyCromarty]

Nicola has brought her tax returns for the last six years into the public domain which shows her only income was her FM salary.

She froze her salary in 2009 and she pays back the difference to the Scottish Government.

No doubt Rashi Sanook will be rushing to publish his tax returns and overall income.

[Goomba]

Surely Sturgeon is on borrowed time now?

The SNP have plummeted in the polls following all this gender stuff, as has support for independence itself.

She could easily have avoided it all by just going along with public opinion, as she's previously done with other issues.

Edited February 6, 2023 by Goomba