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8 minutes ago, sophia said:

If you would like the opportunity to hear the context of the quite brilliant Linda Bauld's comments, it can be accessed at one hour and thirty minutes into this broadcast

I think any reasonable and objective listener would find nothing of fault.

The SNPbad brigade don't want context. They want sensationalist headlines that make their wee gammony heads explode.

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46 minutes ago, sophia said:

If you would like the opportunity to hear the context of the quite brilliant Linda Bauld's comments, it can be accessed at one hour and thirty minutes into this broadcast

I think any reasonable and objective listener would find nothing of fault.

I'm sorry but this is just reaching nonsense. Scotland's health issues and/or poor diet do not stem from a child eating a bit of shortbread or having a drink of irn-bru on the 25th of January.

It's nannying.

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39 minutes ago, StellarHibee said:

The SNPbad brigade don't want context. They want sensationalist headlines that make their wee gammony heads explode.

Linda Bauld, as far as I'm aware anyway, has nothing to do with the SNP?

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8 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

I'm sorry but this is just reaching nonsense. Scotland's health issues and/or poor diet do not stem from a child eating a bit of shortbread or having a drink of irn-bru on the 25th of January.

It's nannying.

I'm making a guess that you didn't listen to the context and the question she replied to?

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11 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I'm making a guess that you didn't listen to the context and the question she replied to?

Of course they didn't, if they did they would've been appraised of Ms Bauld's official connection to the Scottish Government.

 

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1 hour ago, BB_Bino said:

Interesting article on Independence Captured that is sure to open up debate I would have thought.

The best we can do? - by Jonathon Shafi (substack.com)

The whole Scotwind project simply allows big business to once again profiteer from Scotlands natural resources at the expense of Scotlands people.

When fully operational these wind farms are estimated to be capable of producing an initial 5 billion profit and rising annually. Now that money is all going to go to the energy giants.....again....just like NS O&G. The public purse will instead receive an estimated 90 million annually on the continuing lease deals. Bit of a difference.

Long term (up to 60 year) seabed leases have been handed to these firms ......with no real penalty or enforcement if the promised supply chain beneficials fail to materialise.

Setting up a public energy firm was key SNP policy and heavily backed at conference. The initial capital investment for infrastructure may well have put the leadership off. But given any initial outlay would likely have paid for itself within a couple of years the necessary finance could surely have been raised. 

Cancelling the publicly owned project and going with the privatisation model would appear to have been rushed through with the aim of getting production going as quickly as possible. This may well have been to meet short term self imposed climate goals. This is at the expense of our nations long term financial and environmental sustainability.

Its either a case of skewed priorities.......or they just couldn't be bothered.

 

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7 hours ago, BB_Bino said:

Interesting article on Independence Captured that is sure to open up debate I would have thought.

The best we can do? - by Jonathon Shafi (substack.com)

The stuff on education is nonsense - the issues go way back more than 7 years - to the time of McConnell.

It doesn't matter who politically is in charge of education when we have the same failed education "experts" directing the policy - we won't have success. The continued chasing after whatever fad idea of the moment is (often imported from abroad) instead of concentrating on getting the basics right.

I am genuinely glad I'll be retiring in the next 4 years because it won't change while we have the same people playing education buzzword bingo.

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48 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

The whole Scotwind project simply allows big business to once again profiteer from Scotlands natural resources at the expense of Scotlands people.

When fully operational these wind farms are estimated to be capable of producing an initial 5 billion profit and rising annually. Now that money is all going to go to the energy giants.....again....just like NS O&G. The public purse will instead receive an estimated 90 million annually on the continuing lease deals. Bit of a difference.

Long term (up to 60 year) seabed leases have been handed to these firms ......with no real penalty or enforcement if the promised supply chain beneficials fail to materialise.

Setting up a public energy firm was key SNP policy and heavily backed at conference. The initial capital investment for infrastructure may well have put the leadership off. But given any initial outlay would likely have paid for itself within a couple of years the necessary finance could surely have been raised. 

Cancelling the publicly owned project and going with the privatisation model would appear to have been rushed through with the aim of getting production going as quickly as possible. This may well have been to meet short term self imposed climate goals. This is at the expense of our nations long term financial and environmental sustainability.

Its either a case of skewed priorities.......or they just couldn't be bothered.

 

I'm a bit puzzled so to help me would you clarify what you mean by a public energy firm?

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1 hour ago, sophia said:

I'm a bit puzzled so to help me would you clarify what you mean by a public energy firm?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-41579842

The initial intent was to supply the consumer. The sensible long term goal would have been to control production. 

Notably the Welsh exec seem to be moving in the right direction:

https://www.gov.wales/wales-announces-publicly-owned-renewable-energy-developer

They have set ambitious goals to actually own the infrastructure, therefore ensuring profit is returned to the public purse.

 

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4 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-41579842

The initial intent was to supply the consumer. The sensible long term goal would have been to control production. 

Notably the Welsh exec seem to be moving in the right direction:

https://www.gov.wales/wales-announces-publicly-owned-renewable-energy-developer

They have set ambitious goals to actually own the infrastructure, therefore ensuring profit is returned to the public purse.

 

A retail company, as has already been established, is something to be so far away from and our Scottish government wisely decided to ditch this idea.

Distribution (being responsible for the pylons etc) is heavily regulated and whereas there is scope for advantage, I'd suggest it is marginal.

That leaves two areas.

In the here and now, identifying and developing power station opportunities wherever they may be, is a long term and specialist activity that has been left to the private sector for all of this century and an offshore wind farm may take a decade to even start to build. Your two years is fanciful and I'm not even sure if a government agency can sit beside private enterprises. The capital costs are enormous.

As it stands, operating the power stations and benefiting from the wholesale price is where the gold is.

The answer in the context of what we have been presented with by Westminster is simple, fairly tax each and every MWh. Give or take the word fairly, this is where we are. 

It is a huge shift to revert to nationalism and anyone who suggests that this would be easy is either ill informed or playing to the gallery.

This isn't to say that there is a better way to do it, there almost certainly is but for now we're stuck with Tory of whatever shade.

 

 

 

 

 

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49 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-41579842

The initial intent was to supply the consumer. The sensible long term goal would have been to control production. 

Notably the Welsh exec seem to be moving in the right direction:

https://www.gov.wales/wales-announces-publicly-owned-renewable-energy-developer

They have set ambitious goals to actually own the infrastructure, therefore ensuring profit is returned to the public purse.

 

I have to say the Welsh ambition is a bit underwhelming.

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Initially the new company - which is yet to be named - will focus on developing windfarms on Welsh government-owned woodland.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-63392646

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1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

I have to say the Welsh ambition is a bit underwhelming.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-63392646

From the same link:

"The (Welsh) government said its new state-owned developer would help deliver its aim of securing more than 1 gigawatts (GW) of locally-owned generation by 2030, enough to supply approximately 750,000 homes."

Thats a majority of homes in Wales. Thats not underwhelming.

Selling off Scotlands energy future on the cheap is worse than underwhelming.

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7 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

From the same link:

"The (Welsh) government said its new state-owned developer would help deliver its aim of securing more than 1 gigawatts (GW) of locally-owned generation by 2030, enough to supply approximately 750,000 homes."

Thats a majority of homes in Wales. Thats not underwhelming.

Selling off Scotlands energy future on the cheap is worse than underwhelming.

Weasel words.

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17 minutes ago, git-intae-thum said:

From the same link:

"The (Welsh) government said its new state-owned developer would help deliver its aim of securing more than 1 gigawatts (GW) of locally-owned generation by 2030, enough to supply approximately 750,000 homes."

Thats a majority of homes in Wales. Thats not underwhelming.

Selling off Scotlands energy future on the cheap is worse than underwhelming.

I don't see any mention of where the capital investment is coming from to achieve this.

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