Oor Nicola Sturgeon thread.

[Dawson Park Boy]

4 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Almost certainly Covid but also staff shortages due to Brexit.

It's a story across the NHS and across the UK.

It's probably exacerbated more in Scotland due to a generally unhealthier population putting greater demands on health care (Covid related and non-Covid related).

Some fair points.

The whole NHS system is in a mess but too big to fix quickly.

Id like to know if they’re still going through all the charade about testing and segregating out Covid patients?

The pandemic is over. No need to bother anymore. Surely?

Time we started looking at how other countries deal with health as outcomes here in the UK are near the worst in the civilised world. This business of putting the NHS up on a pedestal has got to stop. It’s a business and we’re the consumers who are being treated abysmally.

[Elric]

Neighbour attended at Forth Valley and had to wait hours before being admitted.  Now in a ward where they were putting 2 beds per booth instead of 1. He said he was delighted that he is in Scotland and not England as the FM says we are so much better. Perhaps she and the health minister will pop along and see the conditions.

Forth Valley designed to incorporate patients from both Falkirk and Stirling areas but which unfortunately, is turning out to be totally inadequate.

[williemillersmoustache]

7 minutes ago, Elric said:

Neighbour attended at Forth Valley and had to wait hours before being admitted.  Now in a ward where they were putting 2 beds per booth instead of 1. He said he was delighted that he is in Scotland and not England as the FM says we are so much better. Perhaps she and the health minister will pop along and see the conditions.

Forth Valley designed to incorporate patients from both Falkirk and Stirling areas but which unfortunately, is turning out to be totally inadequate.

Built under PFi about 20 years after they should have closed and binned Alloa, Falkirk and Stirling. 

We can thank Mickey Forsyth for upgrading Stirling RI instead in the 80's 90's then Labour for the FVRH aberration. Late, not big enough, shitey design, ludicrous finance restrictions and really difficult and expensive to adapt. But it does have an M&S food. 

[Paco]

As good a thread as any for this - I think the SG are in a little bit of trouble with the Westminster tax cuts announced today.

With a fixed budget already being stretched - and NHS staff/teaching staff likely to go on strike because of pay very soon - I don’t imagine a 1p cut on earnings up to £43k and then an abandonment of the 46% tax rate altogether was particularly high on the agenda.

Politically speaking it’s probably easy to keep the 46% in play for earners over £150k. But if average Joe on £28k is getting a couple of hundred quid back in Newcastle it’s pretty hard to resist, and Scotland would become the highest-taxed area of the UK for all earning above £14,732. Not a great look regardless of the explanations.

[williemillersmoustache]

9 minutes ago, Paco said:

As good a thread as any for this - I think the SG are in a little bit of trouble with the Westminster tax cuts announced today.

With a fixed budget already being stretched - and NHS staff/teaching staff likely to go on strike because of pay very soon - I don’t imagine a 1p cut on earnings up to £43k and then an abandonment of the 46% tax rate altogether was particularly high on the agenda.

Politically speaking it’s probably easy to keep the 46% in play for earners over £150k. But if average Joe on £28k is getting a couple of hundred quid back in Newcastle it’s pretty hard to resist, and Scotland would become the highest-taxed area of the UK for all earning above £14,732. Not a great look regardless of the explanations.

All very true. Welcome to the devo trap. 

[Jeff Venom]

Suppose it also depends on whether Scots residents feel tangible, demonstrable benefits of paying a marginal amount more in tax than elsewhere in the UK. 

[Dawson Park Boy]

Income tax devolution is becoming a greater and greater trap for the SG as the amount they get from higher tax becomes less and less. Barnett would have produced more cash.

Interesting times ahead.

[101]

4 hours ago, Paco said:

As good a thread as any for this - I think the SG are in a little bit of trouble with the Westminster tax cuts announced today.

With a fixed budget already being stretched - and NHS staff/teaching staff likely to go on strike because of pay very soon - I don’t imagine a 1p cut on earnings up to £43k and then an abandonment of the 46% tax rate altogether was particularly high on the agenda.

Politically speaking it’s probably easy to keep the 46% in play for earners over £150k. But if average Joe on £28k is getting a couple of hundred quid back in Newcastle it’s pretty hard to resist, and Scotland would become the highest-taxed area of the UK for all earning above £14,732. Not a great look regardless of the explanations.

Cut a percentage or two off income tax and bump council tax up 10/15% for parity with England?

[doulikefish]

6 minutes ago, 101 said:

Cut a percentage or two off income tax and bump council tax up 10/15% for parity with England?

But somebody with 1690 in there bio and earns minimum wage says we are taxed to death in sturgeons Nazi Scotland we should be helping those poor rich folk most probably happening now on twitter

[renton]

19 minutes ago, 101 said:

Cut a percentage or two off income tax and bump council tax up 10/15% for parity with England?

Finally replacing the Council Tax with something progressive would be my favoured option

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Some fair points.
The whole NHS system is in a mess but too big to fix quickly.
Id like to know if they’re still going through all the charade about testing and segregating out Covid patients?
The pandemic is over. No need to bother anymore. Surely?
Time we started looking at how other countries deal with health as outcomes here in the UK are near the worst in the civilised world. This business of putting the NHS up on a pedestal has got to stop. It’s a business and we’re the consumers who are being treated abysmally.

Can't talk about hospitals but I know my stepdad's care home
ended LFTs this week.

[Dawson Park Boy]

48 minutes ago, renton said:

Finally replacing the Council Tax with something progressive would be my favoured option

Always thought the SNP pledged to do this?

[Antlion]

59 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

But somebody with 1690 in there bio and earns minimum wage says we are taxed to death in sturgeons Nazi Scotland we should be helping those poor rich folk most probably happening now on twitter

Whilst moaning that Scotland is a police state that isn’t and should never be a state, and that Sturgeon should be doing much more to help the rich despite being the powerless manager of a pretendy assembly.

[Hard Graft]

18 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Always thought the SNP pledged to do this?

And how often do they keep a pledge?  Thinking about the not for profit energy supplier we were promised.

[spongeheid15]

Where's Nippy when the heat is on, (chucking the big drip Swinney under the bus) 

[Detournement]

She has been quiet recently. 

She must be working on Indyref2 as it's only 12 months away now. 

[Kenneth840]

Useless, absolutely useless. At a time when the UK is at its knees we have silence from our FM.  This would be a good time to make a move. A PRO INDEPENDENCE government at Holyrood and the chaos with the UK economy should be enough. 

Liz Truss has not received the bounce.  Go Nicola, Go for it.  Have some balls here and use your mandates and PRO INDEPENDENCE government to declare Independence from UK, don't be scared Scotland will back you.  

[KingRocketman II]

On 28/09/2022 at 20:25, spongeheid15 said:

Where's Nippy when the heat is on, (chucking the big drip Swinney under the bus) 

Spongheid "speaks" exactly as he memes 

[GiGi]

25 minutes ago, norrie16 said:

A see the creepy wee bas-&#@ is in Dunfermline today no doubt for more selfies, wonder if it will be spouting pish about the ferry's, contract, making a c&£# of the NHS any £600000???, 

Do you need he#&@+lp?

[Benjamin_Nevis]

31 minutes ago, norrie16 said:

A see the creepy wee bas-&#@ is in Dunfermline today no doubt for more selfies, wonder if it will be spouting pish about the ferry's, contract, making a c&£# of the NHS any £600000???, 

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