DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 So we've had this thread closed and now it appears that posts are being removed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 The performance by Nicola Sturgeon today's going to give a majority SNP government, isn't it? Add on the rise in support for the Greens after Patrick Harvie's incredible piece and a huge Indy presence is almost certain. The faces of some Lab and Tories looked like they knew the Union just died.Looking forward to some upcoming polls 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: So we've had this thread closed and now it appears that posts are being removed. Looks like it was the invasion of the COVID thread that did it tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tirso Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 this breach of the code stuff could really haunt the tories in the election campaign now.. it's now an easy attack line for the SNP/Greens with the proven and egregious breaches in the other parliament. Fits nicely into the idea Westminster is corrupt too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Hearing that the Scottish Tories are calling for another vote of no confidence tomorrow Spoiler sorry got that wrong it's Anne Budge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltire Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) If the reports that a coalition with the Greens is being considered even if there's an SNP overall majority are true, the weight of that for demanding a section 30 must be significant. Denying a majority government that mandate would look rather like totalitarianism. Edited March 23, 2021 by Saltire 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 this breach of the code stuff could really haunt the tories in the election campaign now.. it's now an easy attack line for the SNP/Greens with the proven and egregious breaches in the other parliament. Fits nicely into the idea Westminster is corrupt too.People in glass houses and all that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 2 hours ago, lichtgilphead said: Settle down and watch the match. Lichties to win by 2. I did. Onwards now to meet Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 2 hours ago, SandyCromarty said: If Nicola had resigned then I'm sure that the reaction throughout the country would be the opposite to what the tories imagined, a Scottish First Minister being hounded out of her job by a westminster based tory political party, there would have been an outcry which the SNP would have exploited to the max. Any suggestion that the tories ousting Nicola would severely weaken the SNP is pie in the sky, the cause for Independence within Scotland is strong after Brexit, and if voters see the SNP as a vehicle towards that goal then so be it, the Ship is Mightier than the Crew and the SNP Ship is still on passage throughout this fiasco. I don't agree with your analysis of this at all. I think the Tory rationale for going after Sturgeon Is crystal clear. It was utterly cynical, immoral and pretty disgusting given what gave rise to it, but attacking her would have seemed tactically sound if they'd had a better case and if they'd made a better job of it. Toppling Strugeon would, I think, have been massively damaging to the SNP in May, and as such, would have derailed the momentum towards another referendum. Sturgeon is the party's greatest asset and there is no obvious successor nearby. For anyone who favours independence, it's hugely important that the Tories failed quite so spectacularly in a quest now exposed as so tawdry. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 34 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said: The performance by Nicola Sturgeon today's going to give a majority SNP government, isn't it? Add on the rise in support for the Greens after Patrick Harvie's incredible piece and a huge Indy presence is almost certain. The faces of some Lab and Tories looked like they knew the Union just died. This afternoon's proceedings were quite something indeed. The dignity of the covid session was juxtaposed by quite the most desperate and ill conceived political manoeuvre that was redolent of trump's counter factual nonsense of the 6th of January. Contributions by Harvie and Swinney swelled my heart and tear ducts whilst others gave measured contributions that pointed towards how grubby it is going to be to be associated with a generic unionist block. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 That's brilliant 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Jesus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jamie_Beatson said: Imagine the seethe from the two of them once they've seen this. Utterly humiliated and now ridiculed. Glorious Edited March 23, 2021 by Bert Raccoon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattie36 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: I don't agree with your analysis of this at all. I think the Tory rationale for going after Sturgeon Is crystal clear. It was utterly cynical, immoral and pretty disgusting given what gave rise to it, but attacking her would have seemed tactically sound if they'd had a better case and if they'd made a better job of it. Toppling Strugeon would, I think, have been massively damaging to the SNP in May, and as such, would have derailed the momentum towards another referendum. Sturgeon is the party's greatest asset and there is no obvious successor nearby. For anyone who favours independence, it's hugely important that the Tories failed quite so spectacularly in a quest now exposed as so tawdry. Totally agree, this was a deliberate, desperate and targeted attempt to bring her down - kill the queen bee, kill the hive. Despite what some would have us believe, she’s a hugely popular and capable politician, head and shoulders above anyone else in Scottish or UK politics. They know that if they could get her then the fallout for the SNP would at the very least have led to a reduced share of the vote in the election and, more importantly for them, would have taken talk of a referendum off the table for the foreseeable future. This is a sure sign that the opposition parties know that the union is living on borrowed time and the possible humiliation was worth the risk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Yoon heads exploding as a Yoon newspaper sticks the knife in 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tattie36 said: Totally agree, this was a deliberate, desperate and targeted attempt to bring her down - kill the queen bee, kill the hive. Despite what some would have us believe, she’s a hugely popular and capable politician, head and shoulders above anyone else in Scottish or UK politics. They know that if they could get her then the fallout for the SNP would at the very least have led to a reduced share of the vote in the election and, more importantly for them, would have taken talk of a referendum off the table for the foreseeable future. This is a sure sign that the opposition parties know that the union is living on borrowed time and the possible humiliation was worth the risk. Yes, it probably felt for the Tories that they'd little to lose. It's still stunning quite how artlessly they played it though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tourette Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Unsurprisingly no mention of Harvie’s or Sturgeons telts on Sarah Smiths report of today’s proceedings on BBC news at 10. Only Ruth’s spiel and a minor rant from Baillie. It really is impressive how they get away with it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tattie36 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Just now, Monkey Tennis said: Yes, it probably felt for the Tories that they'd little to lose. It's still stunning quite how artlessly they played it though. Totally. Another good thing to come out of this is that the inevitable “Project Fear 2 “ will likely con fewer people this time round. It will be very easy for the SNP and Greens to use this fiasco to counter any scare tactics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 The union will die in your lifetime. Accept it.You sure?You do know there’s a pandemic on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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