Dev Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 27 minutes ago, Marten said: That would be a long tunnel to Shetland. There aren't yet good links between many of the islands - although that's improving. Why not have a tunnel between Thurso and Orkney and another one from there to the Shetlands. Oh! No. Same reason! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Auld Heid said: Since Kelty took the first steps towards embracing the pyramid concept. Clubs have progressed quicker than the overall concept. Leagues decided in board rooms. Changing rules during the season. Still no joined up solution that covers all of Scotland. Hardly a glowing endorsement of the pyramid concept. 1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said: I'm going to guess the majority of this complaint will be handled by the fact that's the world of COVID. So much so, leagues were more likely to be have been decided over *insert brand name* Video Conference or emails than in actual boardrooms. That was also the situation around the world not just non-league Scottish pyramid. There's the prospect of one on the horizon however things go. With the potential of only having 2 council areas unrepresented in league football more so by georgraphy than anything else. This... 1 hour ago, AlanCamelonfan said: Well let's go back to the juniors. Stand in shite facilities . If we were all still juniors we would likely have the same scenario. Juniors was a pyramid within itself just the same. Rome wasnt built in a day if midland league gets go ahead then we have covered everything this... 58 minutes ago, Junior Pub League said: Some guys are stuck in the past and cant see beyond the cesspit that was Ra Jooners, time to move on M87. Time to admit your club has been left behind by those clubs that embraced the future in Kelty, the Big Rose and Bo'ness. No one could have forseen the outside influences that would impact on the pyramid, going forward when the Dundee sides finally fit in under the Highland league there will be a structure in place that will allow any team to progress. ...and this all went without saying tbh. Auld Heid just being an absolute moron as usual and his posts should be widely ignored. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: ^^^hopefully proves to be more accurate than similar emails from Tom Johnston and the end of the pyramid saga is really in sight. Time will tell. Would normally ignore "Junior Pub League" but it's actually completely comic that he spins what remains of the east region of the SJFA getting into the north pyramid as the end of the juniors when that's actually the scenario that is most likely to keep the SJFA on life support at this point. The Forfar WE approach of joining the EoS would be the real parallel with Kelty as that would break the link to the SJFA once and for all. Nice bit of "arm twisting" then by Forfar West End. Deserves a medal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malty Guy Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 21 hours ago, JustBecause said: As I said on the other thread two of these clubs are showing a genuine desire to join the EOS league as they see it as a far more progressive set up. They know that means starting in a lower tier (2 or 3 levels lower possibly) than the possibility of a tier 6 Midlands League but that is still more appealing to them. The motive of the other two clubs is unknown. EoS - agreed perhaps a progressive setup. However,,,,, sadly, decision making does not seem to be one of their strong points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patriot1 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 So this statement indicates that the Midland league will come under SJFA jurisdiction? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, patriot1 said: So this statement indicates that the Midland league will come under SJFA jurisdiction? I was wondering that too. Are the Midlands and possibly North Juniors remaining under the SJFA control? Edited April 1, 2021 by Buddy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 45 minutes ago, patriot1 said: So this statement indicates that the Midland league will come under SJFA jurisdiction? Maybe explains why a few Tayside clubs want to bail out into the EoS. I don't believe everyone in Tayside is on the same page. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 As others have said, it is an Interesting statement from the SJFA when it talks about "further developing our relationship". I wonder if that means that the SJFA would continue to administer the NRJFA and Midland Leagues (ex ERJFA). It would put the SJFA on a par with the EOSFL, WOSFL and SOSFL in running tier 6 leagues. It also raises the possibility of the continuation of the Junior Cup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 28 minutes ago, Buddy said: I was wondering that too. Are the Midlands and possibly North Juniors remaining under the SJFA control? That's definitely the way it looks. The HL have never had an issue with SJFA pyramid entry AFAIA. The EoS was always the main stumbling block on that as they were bitterly opposed to east region entry as a second tier 6 LL feeder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Dev said: Nice bit of "arm twisting" then by Forfar West End. Deserves a medal. called it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastyMan Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: That's definitely the way it looks. The HL have never had an issue with SJFA pyramid entry AFAIA. The EoS was always the main stumbling block on that as they were bitterly opposed to east region entry as a second tier 6 LL feeder. "bitterly" ..... and quite correctly as it has turned out 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Personally don't have an issue with the Junior Cup remaining - it has a name and can attract partners, and it becoming a Tier 6 and below competition. Possibly the Challenge Cup could become a T2-5 competition if they ditch the Colts and Foreign clubs as well. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, zenon said: Although it's very unlikely we will see a Scottish isles team enter the pyramid we have had recent cases in England with Isle Of Man, Guernsey and Jersey Bulls all entering the English pyramid system. It's very unlikely that a Shetland or Western Isles representative team could get their stuff together to play in a mainland competition. Having a Shetland or Western Isles league below the North Caley tho'? maaaaaybe. Get them into the pyramid. Don't make promotion mandatory. Let clubs have access to licensing, etc. Anyway we just got the Midland league sorted. We can worry about Barra and Uist representation another day 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Dev said: There aren't yet good links between many of the islands - although that's improving. Why not have a tunnel between Thurso and Orkney and another one from there to the Shetlands. Oh! No. Same reason! Shetland is preferred as the name by Shetlanders. On many islands in Orkney and Shetland the ferries are a significant source of local employment so there is a strong lobby against fixed links. Orkney should be easy enough to do and a link to Shetland via Fair Isle would be a realistic long term goal after tunnels had linked all the major Orkney islands., but if the Shetland Islands Council can't find the political will to do something as straightforward as Lerwick to Bressay I seriously doubt it will ever happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Auld Heid said: Since Kelty took the first steps towards embracing the pyramid concept. Clubs have progressed quicker than the overall concept. Leagues decided in board rooms. Changing rules during the season. Still no joined up solution that covers all of Scotland. Hardly a glowing endorsement of the pyramid concept. Mind you some things are the same, Linlithgow Rose are still jobbies 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, Burnieman said: Maybe explains why a few Tayside clubs want to bail out into the EoS. I don't believe everyone in Tayside is on the same page. 19 applications definitely strongly suggests otherwise. Beyond any SJFA angle I suspect some clubs have looked at what the future fixture list for a ML would probably look like and have compared it to what they would have in the EoS and have decided that the EoS looks like the more attractive option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaswork Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 As others have said, it is an Interesting statement from the SJFA when it talks about "further developing our relationship". I wonder if that means that the SJFA would continue to administer the NRJFA and Midland Leagues (ex ERJFA). It would put the SJFA on a par with the EOSFL, WOSFL and SOSFL in running tier 6 leagues. It also raises the possibility of the continuation of the Junior Cup.Junior association and junior membership and football will continue great news for all involved and many excellent football administrators from the juniors being more and more involved. Delighted. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramidic Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, gaswork said: 47 minutes ago, Footballfirst said: As others have said, it is an Interesting statement from the SJFA when it talks about "further developing our relationship". I wonder if that means that the SJFA would continue to administer the NRJFA and Midland Leagues (ex ERJFA). It would put the SJFA on a par with the EOSFL, WOSFL and SOSFL in running tier 6 leagues. It also raises the possibility of the continuation of the Junior Cup. Junior association and junior membership and football will continue great news for all involved and many excellent football administrators from the juniors being more and more involved. Delighted. The SJFA as an organisation might more fittingly be described as the Grampian and Tayside FA given their reduced footprint. In that respect they would not be that different than the EoSFA. But I do acknowledge the remnant Junior Cup and the considerable assets held by the SJFA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pyramidic said: The SJFA as an organisation might more fittingly be described as the Grampian and Tayside FA given their reduced footprint.... Alex McDowell who wrote one of the two emails on the previous page is from Gartcairn Juniors and that's an Airdrie club. The top SJFA officeholders are from WoS clubs, so it's more complicated than that on footprint. A WoS officeholder from Rutherglen Glencairn a club that did not retain SJFA membership has expressed skepticism on here about the ML proposal being as close to fruition as the spin from junior blazers suggests. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) Not exactly a graphic design masterpiece but here's a nice simple way to view Tier 6 (Forgot Spey Valley Utd in the exceptions) Edited April 1, 2021 by AsimButtHitsASix 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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