New clubs in the East of Scotland

[8MileBU]

3 hours ago, Pyramidic said:

Prospect of Bo'ness United having a second senior football club

https://www.linlithgowgazette.co.uk/sport/football/international/prospect-of-boness-united-having-a-second-senior-football-club-3162778

Good statement from the chairman.

2 hours ago, Ginaro said:

Bo'ness United aren't dropping back down to the EOS any time soon, neither are the Juniors getting to the LL or even the EOS Premier in the near future - so they won't be direct competitors. If the Juniors rebrand then I don't think there's too much of a problem with them being in the pyramid.

Wouldn’t b£t on it. Potentially could only take a couple of s£asons.

2 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

Neither one are competing for sponsors, fans, or potential youth signings.

I think both pad the first team as that's where Stirling Uni have more adult age people too good for their development team or amateurs and Braves get to play some of their French scholarship players that are paying into the Edusport programme.

Hmmm...

[Spyro]

If Perth can manage 4 teams, I’m sure Bo’ness/Linlithgow could handle 2. Is the Linlithgow Thistle name completely dead or could it be dusted off if things don’t go well with real BU’s

[Dev]

 

A list of clubs which are thought to have applied to the EoS or have stated somewhere that is their plan. Letham AFC added:

8

Bathgate Thistle

Bo'ness Juniors CFC

Livingston United

Pumpherston Juniors

West Calder United

Whitburn Juniors

Cupar Hearts

Letham AFC

Other East Juniors which may or may not apply:

8

Armadale Thistle

Fauldhouse United

Harthill Royal

Sauchie CFC

Stoneyburn Juniors

Syngenta

Scone Thistle

Tayport

Edited 8 hours ago by Dev

[Dev]

1 hour ago, Ginaro said:

As cages go it looks a decent enough one https://www.google.com/maps/@56.4040482,-3.4784968,197m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en-GB

They hosted a Kinnoull game in the Juniors in May 2019. Could do with some screening though. https://facebook.com/SevenAcresPerth/

 

If the EoS accept this ground presumably  it would need to be adjusted to meet league requirements but that could be done over the first season. It has Floodlights so that's a bonus. Maybe this one of a large number of loss making Council owned grounds which are being taken over and run by local clubs and associations throughout Scotland at present e.g. St Cadocs YC in the WoS.  Anyone know more?

If this ground is Ok, subject to adjustments, there must be lots more grounds around which could be considered as potentially OK soon.

Wonder if Letham AFC will be the only Perthshire Amateur to apply this time. Still kinda hoping someone like Breadalbane will try to join.

[FairWeatherFan]

8 hours ago, 8MileBU said:

Hmmm...

Talking about Stirling Uni EoS & Caledonian Braves SoS. Both are part of the same parent club so don't compete for sponsors, fans, or youth signings for potential development/youth teams.

Which are some of the potential conflicts for Bo'ness United and Bo'ness Borrowers.

[bigwullieac]

12 hours ago, Junior Pub League said:

Interesting different take from the same paper, 

Bo'ness United Junior FC face extinction if they don't apply to go senior by March 31 | Linlithgow Journal and Gazette (linlithgowgazette.co.uk)

"For me it’s not a case of wanting to compete with Bo’ness United. But at the same time it’s being able to continue playing football.”

Theres two obvious options here to do that

1) Stop squatting on the Bo'ness United name gained in bad faith and enter the EOS as Linlithgow Thistle or some other name

2) Join the SAFA leagues and continue playing football in a different grade.

Any other course of action and its clear that yet again what is being said and what is being done are two different things by this club

[AsimButtHitsASix]

 

10 hours ago, buboy said:

11 hours ago, AlanCamelonfan said:

Is it any different to stirling uni or caledonian braves?. They keep on saying boness cant have 2 senior clubs but  their really is not much if any difference between ersjfa south and eosfl

Why should a Bo'ness institution with its proud history that's been there since 1945 potentially jeopardise it's future in this current difficult financial climate for a club that's only been in existence for months.. Maybe I'm missing something but what if any plus points can be gained by having another senior team in the town .fighting for sponsorship ,crowds, fixture fullfillments.

Presuming the North Juniors join the pyramid places like Buckie and Forres will have two senior teams. If the Tayside teams come in Forfar will have three. With the gulf between BUFC and BUJFC (or whatever name they end up with) they wont be competing directly. 

[FairWeatherFan]

4 minutes ago, bigwullieac said:

"For me it’s not a case of wanting to compete with Bo’ness United. But at the same time it’s being able to continue playing football.”

Theres two obvious options here to do that

1) Stop squatting on the Bo'ness United name gained in bad faith and enter the EOS as Linlithgow Thistle or some other name

2) Join the SAFA leagues and continue playing football in a different grade.

Any other course of action and its clear that yet again what is being said and what is being done are two different things by this club

That to me is the basic issue here and not Bo'ness as a town being capable of having x number of clubs. They erased their own identity as an amateur and they've tried to get a foothold in a completely new town by latching on to an existing club.

 

[LongTimeLurker]

30 minutes ago, bigwullieac said:

"For me it’s not a case of wanting to compete with Bo’ness United. But at the same time it’s being able to continue playing football.”

Theres two obvious options here to do that

1) Stop squatting on the Bo'ness United name gained in bad faith and enter the EOS as Linlithgow Thistle or some other name....

...preferably at somewhere other than Newtown Park. Going back to trying to be the local club for Linlithgow Bridge at whatever level accepts them is their natural niche after failing to hijack Bo'ness United's junior legacy. When they joined the east region there was still an expectation in some circles that the move to the EoS by the Real Bo'ness United would end in failure, so they were clearly trying to become the top club in Bo'ness through deceit and the failed attempt to get a local derby going with a Linlithgow Rose tribute act.

20 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said:

Presuming the North Juniors join the pyramid places like Buckie and Forres will have two senior teams. If the Tayside teams come in Forfar will have three. With the gulf between BUFC and BUJFC (or whatever name they end up with) they wont be competing directly. 

That's not a safe assumption in this case when they will no doubt be trying to contine to use the same ground as Real Bo'ness United and have solid financial backing by all accounts.

Edited March 12, 2021 by LongTimeLurker

[xnxx]

No other amateur team from Perth have the facility's like Letham. Breadalbane have a great set up but I presume they are to far out the way?

If the EoS accept this ground presumably  it would need to be adjusted to meet league requirements but that could be done over the first season. It has Floodlights so that's a bonus. Maybe this one of a large number of loss making Council owned grounds which are being taken over and run by local clubs and associations throughout Scotland at present e.g. St Cadocs YC in the WoS.  Anyone know more?
If this ground is Ok, subject to adjustments, there must be lots more grounds around which could be considered as potentially OK soon.
Wonder if Letham AFC will be the only Perthshire Amateur to apply this time. Still kinda hoping someone like Breadalbane will try to join.

[LongTimeLurker]

2 minutes ago, xnxx said:

...Breadalbane have a great set up but I presume they are to far out the way?

Only way to find out is with an application. We've had it confirmed on the EoS twitter this week that there is no fixed northern boundary for the extent of the league.

[Marten]

14 minutes ago, xnxx said:

No other amateur team from Perth have the facility's like Letham. Breadalbane have a great set up but I presume they are to far out the way?

I would imagine if they make the move, they would want to join Tayside rather than the EOS (assuming Tayside will be in the pyramid).

[xnxx]

Astro isnt owned or run by the council

If the EoS accept this ground presumably  it would need to be adjusted to meet league requirements but that could be done over the first season. It has Floodlights so that's a bonus. Maybe this one of a large number of loss making Council owned grounds which are being taken over and run by local clubs and associations throughout Scotland at present e.g. St Cadocs YC in the WoS.  Anyone know more?
If this ground is Ok, subject to adjustments, there must be lots more grounds around which could be considered as potentially OK soon.
Wonder if Letham AFC will be the only Perthshire Amateur to apply this time. Still kinda hoping someone like Breadalbane will try to join.

[lowenan]

Hope Armadale and Fauldhouse apply to the EOS. 

[Pyramidic]

Letham Afc

CLUB UPDATE:

After a long hard winter for everyone connected to grassroots football we are now hopefully moving into an easing of restrictions and back into some form of training shortly. 

Whilst football has been called to a halt over the last 4 months the management team and committee at Letham have been working tirelessly in the background and last week we submitted an application to join the East of Scotland Football Association structure. 

We as a club feel the time is right to seek new challenges and opportunities after the successes at amateur level over the last decade. 

If accepted by the members of the EOS association we look forward to a new and exciting chapter in our history.

The future is bright, the future is Tangerine!

LTID
 

I wonder how many other clubs are working tirelessly in the background to submit their application to the EOSFL by the deadline of 31st March. I could mention Armadale Thistle but that might be interpreted as being churlish.

[Pyramidic]

10 hours ago, Dev said:

If the EoS accept this ground presumably  it would need to be adjusted to meet league requirements but that could be done over the first season. It has Floodlights so that's a bonus. Maybe this one of a large number of loss making Council owned grounds which are being taken over and run by local clubs and associations throughout Scotland at present e.g. St Cadocs YC in the WoS.  Anyone know more?

If this ground is Ok, subject to adjustments, there must be lots more grounds around which could be considered as potentially OK soon.

Wonder if Letham AFC will be the only Perthshire Amateur to apply this time. Still kinda hoping someone like Breadalbane will try to join.

 

Are any of these AWP grounds suitable for EOSFL that are listed on the NLM Forum:

Lothian & Edinburgh AFA. (19/20).

Clubs are changeable with grounds, these are nominated grounds from handbook.

AVU @ Peffermill 3G, 42 Peffermill Rd, EH15 5LL.
B of S Strollers @ Broughton H S 3G, East Fettes Ave, Edinburgh, EH4 1EG.
Edina Hibs @ Portobello H S 3G , Milton Rd, Edinburgh, EH15 3BY.
Edinburgh Harps @ Royal H S 3G,East Barnton Ave, Edinburgh, EH4 6JP.
Edinburgh Star @ Saughton Enclosure 3G, Stevenson Drive, Edinburgh, EH11 3HB.
Fernieside @ Peffermill 3G, 42 Peffermill Rd, EH15 5LL.
Mussleburgh Ams @ Pinkie St Peters 3G, Pinkie Rd, Musselburgh, EH21 7HA.
Meadowbank F C @ Portobello H S 3G , Milton Rd, Edinburgh, EH15 3BY.
Shotts Thistle @ Calderhead H S 3G, Dyfrig St, Shotts, ML7 4DH.
Sporting Saughton @ Saughton Enclosure 3G, Stevenson Drive, Edinburgh, EH11 3HB.
Tollcross Thistle @ Saughton Enclosure 3G, Stevenson Drive, Edinburgh, EH11 3HB.

Border Amateur . (19/20).

Langholm Legion @ Scholars Field 3G, Thomas Telford Rd, DG13 0BL.

Note. In wet weather Hawick clubs - Legion, Legion Rovers & Waverley can use Volunteer Park, Buccleuch Rd, TD9 0EL.
Linton Hotspur can use Penicuik 4G, Beeslack,.

Juniors

Linlithgow Rose CSC @ Xcite AWP, McGinley Way, Linlithgow, EH49 6SQ.

Edited March 12, 2021 by Pyramidic

[Burnieman]

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[San Starko Rover]

What a long way we’ve come in a short space of time from setting up the LL. People scoffed and laughed at the time that it would fail and no clubs would be interested and now look at it. A couple of more seasons and the East and West will have their pyramids established how the members want things. Give it say 5 years and the LL should be a cracking division. Now we need to get the HL, NCL, NRJFA and Tayside teams to sort out the North, talks are surely ongoing. Hopefully we see the SPFL and LL open their trapdoors to allow free movement of teams between divisions too.

In a decade we’ll wonder what all the fuss was about, personally I’m looking forward to seeing who can rise up the divisions. Ross County, ICT, Peterhead, Elgin (Tuesday’s only) Edinburgh City and Cove Rangers have all joined and established themselves and found their level so there’s no reason why a few more can’t do the same. It’ll be sad to see some historic established teams drop out but that’s football and there’s always a route back.

[Sergeant Wilson]

21 minutes ago, Pyramidic said:

 

Are any of these AWP grounds suitable for EOSFL that are listed on the NLM Forum:

Lothian & Edinburgh AFA. (19/20).

Clubs are changeable with grounds, these are nominated grounds from handbook.

AVU @ Peffermill 3G, 42 Peffermill Rd, EH15 5LL.
B of S Strollers @ Broughton H S 3G, East Fettes Ave, Edinburgh, EH4 1EG.
Edina Hibs @ Portobello H S 3G , Milton Rd, Edinburgh, EH15 3BY.
Edinburgh Harps @ Royal H S 3G,East Barnton Ave, Edinburgh, EH4 6JP.
Edinburgh Star @ Saughton Enclosure 3G, Stevenson Drive, Edinburgh, EH11 3HB.
Fernieside @ Peffermill 3G, 42 Peffermill Rd, EH15 5LL.
Mussleburgh Ams @ Pinkie St Peters 3G, Pinkie Rd, Musselburgh, EH21 7HA.
Meadowbank F C @ Portobello H S 3G , Milton Rd, Edinburgh, EH15 3BY.
Shotts Thistle @ Calderhead H S 3G, Dyfrig St, Shotts, ML7 4DH.
Sporting Saughton @ Saughton Enclosure 3G, Stevenson Drive, Edinburgh, EH11 3HB.
Tollcross Thistle @ Saughton Enclosure 3G, Stevenson Drive, Edinburgh, EH11 3HB.

 

Juniors

Linlithgow Rose CSC @ Xcite AWP, McGinley Way, Linlithgow, EH49 6SQ.

Give it a rest. A pyramid is great, trying to shoehorn every club, level and format isn't.

Clarkston BBs could get the old ash pitch in Katherine Park on a long lease and upgrade it. Scottish football needs to fill the gap between Gartcairn and Plains Amateurs. There's 2 miles with no senior club!

Edited March 12, 2021 by Sergeant Wilson

[Pyramidic]

2 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

Give it a rest. A pyramid is great, trying to shoehorn every club, level and format isn't.

Clarkston BBs could get the old ash pitch in Katherine Park on a long lease and upgrade it. Scottish football needs to fill the gap between Gartcairn and Plains Amateurs. There's 2 miles with no senior club!

I only asked a question. I have not been to many of the 3G grounds. It would be helpful to know if any of the venues have some potential.