sdr71 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 How is Blairgowrie to Tweedmouth geographically acceptable at step 8 when Brechin to Berwick isn't at step 5? Is this some new postmodernist reinterpretation of the shape of a pyramid being invented here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 10 hours ago, sdr71 said: How is Blairgowrie to Tweedmouth geographically acceptable at step 8 when Brechin to Berwick isn't at step 5? Is this some new postmodernist reinterpretation of the shape of a pyramid being invented here? Yes, I might seem strange that Brechin City are happy to travel to Berwick or Gretna now or Auckinleck in the future but not to Inverness, let alone to Fraserburgh. Ah! But they get their players from the Lowland League area - they overlook suitable ones from Dundee, Angus and Aberdeenshire who aren't cheap enough or, presumably, good enough. This club really needs to reconnect with its' community! Of course the easier option for a club from Angus is to join the Lowland League and make those clubs add to their travels when it's not necessary as there is, already the equivalent Pyramid League in the north - the Highland League. Haven't you ever heard of it ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Hopefully Tier 8 in the EoS would be split on a regional basis in order to reduce travel distances. Would the EoS clubs vote in Perthshire clubs like Blairgowrie and Coupar Angus? Who knows! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitburn Vale Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Word from darkest western West Lothian is that most of the remaining juniors are moving over to the EoS next season. Bar one.....,possibly? Harthill Royal are looking into joining the WoS. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 It was known pretty early last year, and well before the deadline that the traditional Fife clubs and a then unknown club had applied. Many going public as time ticked towards March 31st. Hopefully it plays out the same way this year. Everyone's mothballed right now with no games being played, so there's no excuses in not get applications organised early. Three years into this i'm not expecting a collective effort being made by the Tayside clubs to deal with their concerns. By the time April rolls around they'll have to come up with something that amounts to more than a theoretical Midland League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Dev said: Yes, I might seem strange that Brechin City are happy to travel to Berwick or Gretna now or Auckinleck in the future but not to Inverness, let alone to Fraserburgh. Ah! But they get their players from the Lowland League area - they overlook suitable ones from Dundee, Angus and Aberdeenshire who aren't cheap enough or, presumably, good enough. This club really needs to reconnect with its' community! It must be a cost decision: it's difficult to imagine there aren't better players locally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Carnoustie’s excuse was that most their players were from the central belt. Absolute madness for a local team at that level if you ask me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 13 hours ago, sdr71 said: How is Blairgowrie to Tweedmouth geographically acceptable at step 8 when Brechin to Berwick isn't at step 5? Is this some new postmodernist reinterpretation of the shape of a pyramid being invented here? I think if the EOS ever gets to the stage of having those two clubs in the league, it would be in a regionalised bottom tier so they wouldn't play each other. 1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said: It was known pretty early last year, and well before the deadline that the traditional Fife clubs and a then unknown club had applied. Many going public as time ticked towards March 31st. Hopefully it plays out the same way this year. Everyone's mothballed right now with no games being played, so there's no excuses in not get applications organised early. Three years into this i'm not expecting a collective effort being made by the Tayside clubs to deal with their concerns. By the time April rolls around they'll have to come up with something that amounts to more than a theoretical Midland League. It was quiet on this thread until 9th February when Kirkcaldy & Dysart applied, then four others went public in the next couple of weeks. Suppose it'll depend on who blinks first in WL. Prediction - West Lothian goes EOS, Tayside will be left on their own with 15 clubs (if Scone and Tayport move), they'll give it a go for one season since this one was interrupted but then realise a big league isn't competitive, and reluctantly ask the North Juniors if they want to team up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ginaro said: West Lothian goes EOS, Tayside will be left on their own with 15 clubs (if Scone and Tayport move), they'll give it a go for one season since this one was interrupted but then realise a big league isn't competitive, and reluctantly ask the North Juniors if they want to team up. Wouldn't surprise me. Bit of a tangent. I had wondered about thee East Region's sponsors to see if they would maybe rethink their commitment if the league continued to erode. The 2 main East Region cup competitions seem to be more Tayside leaning than Lothian area. So they should hopefully be able to keep them on board for some sponsorship revenue to support the running of the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 22 minutes ago, Ginaro said: I think if the EOS ever gets to the stage of having those two clubs in the league, it would be in a regionalised bottom tier so they wouldn't play each other. It was quiet on this thread until 9th February when Kirkcaldy & Dysart applied, then four others went public in the next couple of weeks. Suppose it'll depend on who blinks first in WL. Prediction - West Lothian goes EOS, Tayside will be left on their own with 15 clubs (if Scone and Tayport move), they'll give it a go for one season since this one was interrupted but then realise a big league isn't competitive, and reluctantly ask the North Juniors if they want to team up. This. Probably the most sensible outcome anyway, just taking far longer than needs be. Might add Tayport may move back "North" if they want to at some point as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Ginaro said: Prediction - West Lothian goes EOS, Tayside will be left on their own with 15 clubs (if Scone and Tayport move), they'll give it a go for one season since this one was interrupted but then realise a big league isn't competitive, and reluctantly ask the North Juniors if they want to team up. The Tayside clubs will become the ERJFA in its entirety, so there's no immediate need for them to do anything differently to what they were doing this season. There remains the carrot of a Scottish Cup place for the winner. I can't see Scone moving and to be honest, I'm not even sure their ground meets current requirements as you can easily see in. The West Lothian clubs (and maybe Tayport) move to the EoS whilst the remainder of the ERJFA (Tayside) ploughs on for at least another season. The EoS (depending on what happens this season) then moves to 16 - 16 - 16 - 12(ish) ie a third division, or 16 - 16 - 14/14(ish) ie two second division conferences, depends on final application numbers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Dev said: Hopefully Tier 8 in the EoS would be split on a regional basis in order to reduce travel distances. Would the EoS clubs vote in Perthshire clubs like Blairgowrie and Coupar Angus? Who knows! Only one way to find out and that's to put in an application. They took one last year that was over the boundary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Burnieman said: The Tayside clubs will become the ERJFA in its entirety, so there's no immediate need for them to do anything differently to what they were doing this season. There remains the carrot of a Scottish Cup place for the winner. I can't see Scone moving and to be honest, I'm not even sure their ground meets current requirements as you can easily see in. The West Lothian clubs (and maybe Tayport) move to the EoS whilst the remainder of the ERJFA (Tayside) ploughs on for at least another season. The EoS (depending on what happens this season) then moves to 16 - 16 - 16 - 12(ish) ie a third division, or 16 - 16 - 14/14(ish) ie two second division conferences, depends on final application numbers. And presumably on a vote by members? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Definitely depends on a vote by the members as all they agreed to was that tier 7 conferences would no longer be used after this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 43 minutes ago, Stag Nation said: And presumably on a vote by members? I would assume so, the board generally put forward options for clubs to discuss and agree. I'd imagine the two I highlighted could be the main options given that Premier and the new First have already been agreed for next season, tiers 8 & 9 below that was dependent on how many new applicants would need to be accomodated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Would be great to see both the East and West (ex Juniors) make the move into a more senior league, connected to the EOS and Lowland. All progressive, with clubs making upgrades etc when they can - the more ambitious can climb the ladder (to success) Always thought having more divisions was the only way forward,under the EOS,Lowland umbrella. Will the vote get carried through ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 20/01/2021 at 15:47, Burnieman said: The Tayside clubs will become the ERJFA in its entirety, so there's no immediate need for them to do anything differently to what they were doing this season. There remains the carrot of a Scottish Cup place for the winner. I can't see Scone moving and to be honest, I'm not even sure their ground meets current requirements as you can easily see in. The West Lothian clubs (and maybe Tayport) move to the EoS whilst the remainder of the ERJFA (Tayside) ploughs on for at least another season. The EoS (depending on what happens this season) then moves to 16 - 16 - 16 - 12(ish) ie a third division, or 16 - 16 - 14/14(ish) ie two second division conferences, depends on final application numbers. It's a bit more difficult now to see in Scone's ground from outside, it's fairly enclosed nowadays. In terms of Blairgowrie & Coupar Angus, there is no chance they'd go elsewhere without the Tayside clubs. For them Tayside is the logical region to be in. I doubt they'd want to go EOS unless the rest of Tayside does, due to travel reasons. And let's be honest, it's not like either will soon challenge for promotion to the EOS Premier (or even First) any time soon should they make the move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenon Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Here is how I would propose a possible Second Division regional system using EOS Conference current standings, Tayport and the rest of the West Lothian juniors bar WOS interested Harthill joining and Cupar Hearts being rumoured. EOS Second Division North St Andrews Glenrothes Kirkcaldy and Dysart Lochore Welfare Lochgelly Albert Tayport Cupar Hearts Easthouses Lily MW Ormiston EOS Second Division West Dunipace Syngenta Bo'ness Utd Juniors Armadale Thistle Fauldhouse United West Calder Utd Whitburn Stoneyburn Bathgate Thistle Sauchie Juniors EOS Second Division East Coldstream Dalkeith Arniston Rangers Tweedmouth Eyemouth United Hawick RAU Peebles Rovers Preston Athletic Livingston Utd Pumpherston Juniors 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, zenon said: Here is how I would propose a possible Second Division regional system using EOS Conference current standings, Tayport and the rest of the West Lothian juniors bar WOS interested Harthill joining and Cupar Hearts being rumoured. EOS Second Division North St Andrews Glenrothes Kirkcaldy and Dysart Lochore Welfare Lochgelly Albert Tayport Cupar Hearts Easthouses Lily MW Ormiston EOS Second Division West Dunipace Syngenta Bo'ness Utd Juniors Armadale Thistle Fauldhouse United West Calder Utd Whitburn Stoneyburn Bathgate Thistle Sauchie Juniors EOS Second Division East Coldstream Dalkeith Arniston Rangers Tweedmouth Eyemouth United Hawick RAU Peebles Rovers Preston Athletic Livingston Utd Pumpherston Juniors I don't imagine that'd get a ton of support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Not a chance, small divisions and promoting 3 into 1 higher division isn't popular. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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