FairWeatherFan Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) Putting tier 6 right now seems fair so as not to muddy the waters & add confusion in their statement. Nobody knows what league/division/conference they'll eventually play in if accepted. Edit: Of course the easiest way to avoid confusion was to never reference a specific tier in the first place. Edited June 25, 2018 by FairWeatherFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 9 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Yes Why has Mackin let it become desolate ? It must have a decent value if sold . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Robert James said: Why has Mackin let it become desolate ? It must have a decent value if sold . A disgrace: https://goo.gl/maps/4To2iZa6pSu 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Valley Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Sad/Haunting, but still a well made clip with the music 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 9 hours ago, Robert James said: Why has Mackin let it become desolate ? It must have a decent value if sold . The local council won't provide planning permission to do anything with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipedreamer Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Was the sticking point not the loss of a football pitch with no replacement. He tried to fob off putting in improved changing facilities across the road as replacing the pitch elsewhere. The site is ideal for a 3G/single stand setup. Minimum standards have dropped since the days of Shire being forced to move due to ridiculous costs of widening/lengthening the pitch and somewhere else having unrealistic minimum standards. If only Mackin would gift the land back to the club and disappear back into his hole. How he can sleep at night I don’t know. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep77 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 A was told he must give 50k to the shire when it’s sold but don’t know how much you would get for it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep77 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 On 24/06/2018 at 19:37, LongTimeLurker said: Not sure if it was this pitch exactly, but Little Kerse was supposed to be where the Shire would have their own ground. It wasn’t that pitch The area the shire were in talks about was over the far left hand side off little Kerse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Bump. Schematic confirming details of the upcoming season's format/etc. from EOSL fixture list (p2):http://www.eosfl.com/downloads/eosfl/The-East-of-Scotland-Football-League-Season-2018-19-Fixture-List.pdf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Is there a transfer window? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Any idea on how the 6th placed team(s) might be decided if they're required? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Any idea on how the 6th placed team(s) might be decided if they're required?Points total surely? You don't know what option is required until weeks after the league finishes so play-off are near impossible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Bit confused here. Does this plan put the 1st division at 21 teams. Surely that's not right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Just now, edinabear said: Bit confused here. Does this plan put the 1st division at 21 teams. Surely that's not right? At the moment it seems to be dependant on the number of new applicants for 2019/20, plus the general feeling of the current members. Tier 6 = EoS Premier (16 teams), Tier 7 = EoS First (2-3 regionalised divisions or mixed conferences) or Tier 6 = EoS Premier (16 teams), Tier 7 = EoS First (16 teams?), Tier 8 = Regionalised Divisions 12 minutes ago, parsforlife said: Points total surely? You don't know what option is required until weeks after the league finishes so play-off are near impossible. Safest bet I suppose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, guinness said: Is there a transfer window? Not outside SPFL. Signing cut-off something like March 31st, IIRC. 30 minutes ago, parsforlife said: You don't know what option is required until weeks after the league finishes so play-off are near impossible. You couldn't know for sure until both SPFL2 and Lowland playoff were complete, and that's not until May 18th next season. Equally you could play it earlier, only to then find no place existed. 21 minutes ago, edinabear said: Bit confused here. Does this plan put the 1st division at 21 teams. Surely that's not right? All it says is "First Division/s". By current figures - not allowing for gain or loss due to promotion - there would be 23 teams not playing in the new Premier Division. Clearly that's far too many for a single division but it's no surprise the precise format is unknown (whether North & South, conferences, whatever). No doubt the clubs themselves would shape that. If nothing else, there could be another increase of clubs - indeed Clydebank had made an application plus amateur side Syngenta recently announced the wish to join - and if more than 9 (or 7 or 8 if there was gain from LL relegation) to make more than 32 you'd have too many clubs for 2 divisions or conferences anyway. 9 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: Tier 7 = EoS First (16 teams?), Tier 8 = Regionalised Divisions Done immediately, of course, would mean unexpectedly "demoting" some existing clubs to a lower level than anticipated, something not done this time around; and entail relegating them 2 tiers in a single fell swoop to boot. Edited July 10, 2018 by HibeeJibee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: Done immediately, of course, would mean unexpectedly "demoting" some existing clubs to a lower level than anticipated, something not done this time around; and entail relegating them 2 tiers in a single fell swoop to boot. I'm not a fan of it myself, but there might be some in favour of it going by Blackburn's graphic explaining the pyramid: Edited July 10, 2018 by FairWeatherFan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: At the moment it seems to be dependant on the number of new applicants for 2019/20, plus the general feeling of the current members. Tier 6 = EoS Premier (16 teams), Tier 7 = EoS First (2-3 regionalised divisions or mixed conferences) or Tier 6 = EoS Premier (16 teams), Tier 7 = EoS First (16 teams?), Tier 8 = Regionalised Divisions Going to the second option seems to be just copying the previous Junior set up, maybe the EoS members will want something different? Plus it all depends on how many new clubs join - wonder if only having tier 7 (whether conferences or regionalised) would entice more Juniors or even amateur clubs to make the move. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 9 hours ago, Ginaro said: Going to the second option seems to be just copying the previous Junior set up, maybe the EoS members will want something different? Plus it all depends on how many new clubs join - wonder if only having tier 7 (whether conferences or regionalised) would entice more Juniors or even amateur clubs to make the move. Regions at tier 8 (or even 9) makes more sense than it does at tier 7. If we suppose for a minute that the remaining West Lothian and Fife clubs come over, then you're probably faced with the fact that whoever ends up in the regionals at tier 7 which includes West Lothian clubs is in for a pretty difficult time trying to get promoted, there might be a case where it's effectively a West Lothian League with a few others tagged on, that isn't a very attractive proposition (derbies apart), particularly for the smaller clubs who could be stuck at that level for years given it would be the bottom tier. Whatever the set-up ends up being, you want to encourage movement, promotion and relegation, provide that chance to as many clubs as you can. We're not talking a large geographical area (if we assume Tayside clubs are not going to be involved), so having region wide divisions shouldn't be a problem or a blocker, and definitely not for the top 32 clubs (as was the case in the East Juniors). Two top leagues of 16 with at least 3 up and down, then consider regionalisation below that at tier 8, or another 16 team league. Depends how the numbers stack up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 10 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: I'm not a fan of it myself, but there might be some in favour of it going by Blackburn's graphic explaining the pyramid: It's nice, but I can't claim credit for it, way beyond my technical capabilities! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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