cmontheloknow Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 2 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: Without a licence you're stuck at that level without chance of promotion. And the only hope of Scottish Cup entry would be winning the EoS. So if any of these clubs aren't close to licencing it seems a little fruitless to make the jump. Kelty possibly being in the Scottish Cup next year might be part of the temptation to move now. They can cover the "step down" in league by having the carrot of a run or big tie in the Scottish Cup for the first year while they work on getting licenced during the season. For EoS and SoS sides outwith automatic qualification, there has been a new pathway to Scottish Cup entry added to provide parity with the Juniors who also have two avenues to qualify - the winners of the Alex Jack Cup and the winners of the Alba Cup now play off with the winner qualifying for the big Scottish. Those two cups are what the SFA Registered Members in EoS and SoS (for them a new cup for this season afaik) enter. The first final (I didn't notice this happening last year, that is) was Lochar Thistle vs. LTHV with the latter winning 6-1 and securing qualification without winning the league. Lochar won the Alba Cup by beating Nithsdale 4-0 back in December's final at Palmerston and LTHV won the Alex Jack Cup by beating Tynecastle at Oriam in October. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I'd forgotten about that. Still think it would be too much to leave the Juniors without being close to a licence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 All of the clubs that are alleged to have applied to the EoS league are doing so precisely because of licensing and the ability to secure automatic Scottish Cup entry and to move up through the divisions into the SPFL. They wouldn't be doing it for any other reason than it enabling them to tick the final box on licensing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 8 hours ago, newcastle broon said: On the basis of that match today? These teams would find their level and p.s Eyemouth, albeit away today I can vouch is a fantastic day oot for the fitba. Cushty though they're not up to your standard On the basis of several matches. Both teams were poorer than Forfar Albion who we beat 11-0 earlier this season, didn't Bonnyrigg beat Burntisland 14-0 in the Scottish? Perhaps explains why Craigroyston and Easthouses left, surely Burntisland would attract better players and more interest with a similar switch? they're going nowhere where they are. We need meaningful change, if Kelty do jump ship maybe that will help bring it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 9 hours ago, newcastle broon said: On the basis of that match today? These teams would find their level and p.s Eyemouth, albeit away today I can vouch is a fantastic day oot for the fitba. Cushty though they're not up to your standard I've been to Blackburn once, it was a tidy little set up, but the quality was absolutely dreadful. A headcount would have been me and a wee huddle of their committee, definitely no more than 10, including dogs. I went to the majority of games in that two year spell of watching east south and barring Nitten it was the same story 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I've been to Blackburn once, it was a tidy little set up, but the quality was absolutely dreadful. A headcount would have been me and a wee huddle of their committee, definitely no more than 10, including dogs. I went to the majority of games in that two year spell of watching east south and barring Nitten it was the same story Lol, maybe 10 years ago, not 24 hours ago. Nice one though ???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 17 minutes ago, Burnie_man said: Lol, maybe 10 years ago, not 24 hours ago. Nice one though Exactly, swings and roundabouts i didn't agree initially with this Scottish cup carrot to the juniors, but it certainly looks like it has had some positive effects in what's happening now. This junior/senior pish needs put to bed asap. Too many people being part of the problem and not enough looking for a solution. "Aye been" eh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, heedthebaa said: Exactly, swings and roundabouts i didn't agree initially with this Scottish cup carrot to the juniors, but it certainly looks like it has had some positive effects in what's happening now. This junior/senior pish needs put to bed asap. Too many people being part of the problem and not enough looking for a solution. "Aye been" eh Correct. As I said, Burntisland have a tidy wee (licenced) set-up there, surely they can see that moving to the South Division and playing against another 4 or 5 Fife clubs is a better place to be long term, it bound to attract better players, however as it stands that may affect their licence and therefore a major part of their income. They only had 11 players yesterday and two guys in the dug out. As you say maybe they shouldn't have the choice, merge the leagues! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locharinn Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 The Juniors may have one less participant in the Scottish Cup in 17/18. Glenafton and Auchinleck who are in Junior Cup Final are also challenging for the West Super League. So either could possibly win both competitions that gains entry to Scottish. Suppose it is the same with Lothian Th HV, they won the East League so entitled them to gain entry to Scottish Cup plus they also won the South and East Super Shield for the non licensed clubs so could've gained entry in that way also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmontheloknow Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, locharinn said: The Juniors may have one less participant in the Scottish Cup in 17/18. Glenafton and Auchinleck who are in Junior Cup Final are also challenging for the West Super League. So either could possibly win both competitions that gains entry to Scottish. Suppose it is the same with Lothian Th HV, they won the East League so entitled them to gain entry to Scottish Cup plus they also won the South and East Super Shield for the non licensed clubs so could've gained entry in that way also. Maybe two less if Kelty win the East Super and jump the fence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel hutz Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 So are Kelty, Haddington, Bo'ness going to be playing in the EoS next season or what? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnie_man Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 No, maybe Kelty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 7 hours ago, Marr1 said: So are Kelty, Haddington, Bo'ness going to be playing in the EoS next season or what? Haddington weren't the third club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Haddington weren't the third club. Who were? I'd heard about the two. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Given it's not been made public yet, it's for them to say not some random anonymous poster on a website. Think we will need to wait for the junior season to run its course before we will find out for sure what is happening next year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinabear Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 34 minutes ago, Enigma said: Who were? I'd heard about the two. Linlithgow Rose 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heedthebaa Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 4 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Given it's not been made public yet, it's for them to say not some random anonymous poster on a website. Edinabear thinks otherwise although I'm on your side 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrman2011 Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Rosey Posey will never join the Seniors 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Arguably they already have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert James Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 The EoSL will also be strengthened by Preston Athletic who are relegated from the LL. New manager looks likely to shake things up and push for promotion. Could be 4 new EoSL clubs in EoSL next season. On 2017-5-16 at 17:06, heedthebaa said: Edinabear thinks otherwise although I'm on your side As an aside, don't be surprised if Clydebank apply to join the SoSL in advance of the Holm Park redevelopment, with a view to licensing asap thereafter as part of the club's ambition to return to the SPFL. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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