Lex Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 It’s all gone a bit quiet, hasn’t it? No wonder. Nothing’s changing. Yes is STILL behind. Bar from the tub thumping moon howlers, the great Scottish public just aren’t that arsed. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Lex said: It’s all gone a bit quiet, hasn’t it? No wonder. Nothing’s changing. Yes is STILL behind. It's a hell of a baseline to start from. We started 2014 on 30%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 It’s all gone a bit quiet, hasn’t it? No wonder. Nothing’s changing. Yes is STILL behind. Bar from the tub thumping moon howlers, the great Scottish public just aren’t that arsed.There's been literally zero campaigning around the issue.I'd take more notice of the polls once an IndyRef2 campaign is under way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Absolute straw-clutching desperation to have spent your entire life watching the timer slowly tick down to indy o'clock and still frantically insist it isn't happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Pro-UK Anti-Theism sounds like a epic account 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Has been interesting to watch the narrative develop from natters on this thread and elsewhere in the last five years.It’s went from ‘when Bojo and Brexit happens we will be comfortably ahead in the polls and we can have the referendum then’To ‘Brexit and Bojo has happened, yet we are STILL behind, so we will just need to call it and hope for the best’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zern Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I find it more interesting that polls are now seen as an arbiter, when elections through PR indicate a majority vote in favour of another independence referendum. Sample size of millions versus thousands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Lex said: Has been interesting to watch the narrative develop from natters on this thread and elsewhere in the last five years. It’s went from ‘when Bojo and Brexit happens we will be comfortably ahead in the polls and we can have the referendum then’ To ‘Brexit and Bojo has happened, yet we are STILL behind, so we will just need to call it and hope for the best’ If only it were that simple. Covid has pushed the constitutional debate off the front pages whilst concentrating the thoughts of almost all of the electorate. It has also served Johnson's Government well in the sense that it has masked the utter disaster that is Brexit. That can't last forever however and as we enter the new reality the wartime analogies and overblown Budget rhetoric will be blown apart by surging inflation, widespread shortages and mortgage defaults. In Brexit and wider economic terms we're not yet off the second tee, and the Tories and their cheerleaders are now trusting to hope rather than anything more grounded in fact. Unionists may comfort themselves in thinking that the Independence debate is looking more settled - they are wrong. Edited October 31, 2021 by O'Kelly Isley III 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Has been interesting to watch the narrative develop from natters on this thread and elsewhere in the last five years.It’s went from ‘when Bojo and Brexit happens we will be comfortably ahead in the polls and we can have the referendum then’To ‘Brexit and Bojo has happened, yet we are STILL behind, so we will just need to call it and hope for the best’[emoji2960]What is it about self-determination for Scotland that is such a uniquely abnormal thing?Should Norway go back to being in a united kingdom with Sweden? Why not just get the whole band back together and start Kalmar V2.0? Think of all the pooling and sharing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 44 minutes ago, Jeff Venom said: What is it about self-determination for Scotland that is such a uniquely abnormal thing? Should Norway go back to being in a united kingdom with Sweden? Why not just get the whole band back together and start Kalmar V2.0? Think of all the pooling and sharing! Self determination to run own affairs formed on a basis of social justice and being an outward looking country, returning to the EU and enjoying all the benefits of free movement of labour, people, and goods and services. Or continuation of ruinous "I'm alright jack" right wing isolationist policies by controlling Westminster Govts led and/or made up of racist, lying, xenophobic, self serving elitists constantly targeting the poor and vulnerable. Supporters of one of these options are "moon howlers". 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Jeff Venom said: What is it about self-determination for Scotland that is such a uniquely abnormal thing? Should Norway go back to being in a united kingdom with Sweden? Why not just get the whole band back together and start Kalmar V2.0? Think of all the pooling and sharing! This is one of big flaws in BritNat logic: if political union is such a self-evidently good, sensible, and defensible position, then why aren’t other countries lining up fold their statehood and merge with their larger neighbours? For that matter, if political union is so good, sensible, and defensible, why did the UK and its leaders just spend years telling us it was bad and that reclaiming sovereignty was good? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 This is one of big flaws in BritNat logic: if political union is such a self-evidently good, sensible, and defensible position, then why aren’t other countries lining up fold their statehood and merge with their larger neighbours? For that matter, if political union is so good, sensible, and defensible, why did the UK and its leaders just spend years telling us it was bad and that reclaiming sovereignty was good?A buffet of cognitive dissonance! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 Has been interesting to watch the narrative develop from natters on this thread and elsewhere in the last five years.It’s went from ‘when Bojo and Brexit happens we will be comfortably ahead in the polls and we can have the referendum then’To ‘Brexit and Bojo has happened, yet we are STILL behind, so we will just need to call it and hope for the best’[emoji2960]Fair point, well made 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Donathan Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Labour with a six point lead now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 #BorisBounce 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Hard to trust a poll without knowing how its been done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth840 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Its a Scot goes pop poll/Panelbase. 1002 sample i believe. You should check out the results of the other parts of the poll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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